tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post116257608511538234..comments2024-03-18T16:51:50.688-07:00Comments on A Different Perspective: OOPARTS and Tubal CainKRandlehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06333125414889883920noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-76125935277351336622016-12-01T07:23:14.462-08:002016-12-01T07:23:14.462-08:00I have been hearing this yarn from my friend also ...I have been hearing this yarn from my friend also talking about Bock Saga thing. The Sci Am artical is a reprint. Certainly from the early days of Sci Am. The basic premis is that humans existed on earth 100s of millions of years ago. They are digging for this treasure chamber in Finland where all these beautiful works of art from millions of years ago are held. I love stories:-) who doesnt? It is beautiful BS. Art of the yarn, but art in and of itself. There is a tremendous amount of talk but no artifacts to substantiate it. The pics of the dorchester pot are not real.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03066069575599746978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-53428051107441607912014-06-30T05:55:25.778-07:002014-06-30T05:55:25.778-07:00Just to dismiss any notions of incredulity towards...Just to dismiss any notions of incredulity towards the article though, I must in fairness direct those of you unfamiliar with it towards the Antikythera mechanism and point out there were most likely predecessors. History is full of forgotten surprises.<br /><br />On the subject of skepticism, I'd discourage laughing off UFO reports. I certainly wouldn't hastily label them, but simply encourage people to bear in mind that technology employed in modern aircraft took time and resources to develop. In todays terms many of the past reports are of logical designs and performance within the 20 year window many technologies take to complete and enter production. Secrecy is a valuable tool in military surprise and development. Labeling anything such as dreams of aliens is simply a logical way to discredit.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05694413190458682360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-28758232931229883982014-06-30T05:44:49.696-07:002014-06-30T05:44:49.696-07:00Amusing notion that it's some sort of secret c...Amusing notion that it's some sort of secret code. It's an attractive notion to many because quite simply the idea of conspiracy and machinations appeals to many. Perhaps that's partly imbued upon them by their discontentment at what they perceive as life as usual. <br /><br />If indeed it were secret code as implied, what perchance would it be hinting at? Wreaths for an emperor? Presidency? The mint? :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05694413190458682360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-63357311617732583732014-06-24T04:14:47.459-07:002014-06-24T04:14:47.459-07:00It is interesting that this artifact was blasted o...It is interesting that this artifact was blasted out of puddingstone that had formed in a depression.<br />Puddingstone being stone that formed from a mixture of sands, gravels and small pebbles that is washed down cliffs or hills by water.<br />The sediment then is deposited quickly without time to or further stirring to allow for graduated layering as would happen if a similar mixture was swished round in a bottle.<br />So logically the artifact could quite easily be datable to Pre-Flood and being washed from some nearby antediluvians home during the Flood.<br />The fact that so many experts pour scorn on it shows it is a genuine artifact.r1xlxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07404657645199233938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-45432482685781811932012-08-19T15:49:22.446-07:002012-08-19T15:49:22.446-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Tazz adminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04506505021809183456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-69304640039258692932011-12-05T06:45:11.455-08:002011-12-05T06:45:11.455-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.thanh11111111https://www.blogger.com/profile/02033787771154157444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-56916243860326607392011-12-05T06:43:16.987-08:002011-12-05T06:43:16.987-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.thanh11111111https://www.blogger.com/profile/02033787771154157444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-17160037048161151502011-07-21T22:21:12.594-07:002011-07-21T22:21:12.594-07:00Glad to see the scholarship of the other posters h...Glad to see the scholarship of the other posters here on the state of society in the antebellum world. Having delved into the hobby of civil war re-enacting, and other periods as well, I can attest to what they are saying about the common usage of such references as Tubal Cain. My own ancestors from the period have given names coming from ancient Greece and obscura from the Bible. And these people were not university educated, just very common folk, but such was the focus and interest of the time.Randel Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10649871674605641915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-29553547546887615462011-07-21T17:06:15.856-07:002011-07-21T17:06:15.856-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Randel Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10649871674605641915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-71461225106043285582011-07-21T16:59:59.677-07:002011-07-21T16:59:59.677-07:00Sounds like the artifact may be in a place where i...Sounds like the artifact may be in a place where it can be examined. Might be worth looking around.<br /><br />As with the case of the fossilized miner's hat, there has been unexpected fossilization and petrification in the Mount Saint Helen's area. This has raised eyebrows among some who fear that the current system of geological dating may not be entirely accurate. If so, the implication is that the earth, etc., could be much younger, or there could be a mixture of both. Very worrisome.<br /><br />I would think that if the artifact was found in Massachusetts, the norsemen would be a more likely source; and that would be pretty easy to decide if you could look at the thing, since today we have so many examples of their workmanship.<br /><br />I suspect that, depending on conditions, things like coal may be able to form without taking as long as assumed, so a manmade chain being found in a solid lump is not impossible. But we never see a picture of the chain and it's workmanship, which today, would tell a specialist much about it's origins . . .Randel Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10649871674605641915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-961392954080129302010-09-20T14:29:40.718-07:002010-09-20T14:29:40.718-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-83749675033429754322008-10-22T08:55:00.000-07:002008-10-22T08:55:00.000-07:00I find it extremely interesting and yet disturbing...I find it extremely interesting and yet disturbing that you don't consider the objects to not only be manmade, but an indication that man has either: (1) been around much longer than previously thought or (2) the Genesis account of creation is correct. Having come from atheism to agnosticism to Christianity and having examined the evidence thoroughly, I hold to the latter. While that IS a matter of faith, it is just as much a matter of faith to believe otherwise. Be objective.Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05943625288603924878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-90846882273123174592008-01-20T18:17:00.000-08:002008-01-20T18:17:00.000-08:00Tubal Cain is important to Masons for exactly the ...Tubal Cain is important to Masons for exactly the reasons other commentators have named - he was the first known cunning worker in metals, or metal smith. His legacy is part of the practical inheritance of the mason's craft. No big mystery there, speaking on the square.<BR/><BR/>In 1852, actually, the percentage of Masons among the scientifically curious (and literate) public was probably significantly higher than today...but then, so was the percentage of people who were familiar with the bible.<BR/><BR/>Prof. Agassiz would have been exactly the guy to look at it (whether they were being serious or tongue in cheek). He was Mr. Geologic dates...still considered the big man in early scientific geology....J. Kanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03501070518825631018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-1169353556076290062007-01-20T20:25:00.000-08:002007-01-20T20:25:00.000-08:00Hi Kevin it's your little brother. I was searching...Hi Kevin it's your little brother. I was searching you out hoping to find you. The kids and I were looking at your pictures. We are very proud of you. Hope to talk to you. BrianNazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08954291401948002977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-1162747571898296352006-11-05T09:26:00.000-08:002006-11-05T09:26:00.000-08:00OOPA or OOPARTS are the stock and trade of those o...OOPA or OOPARTS are the stock and trade of those of us who believe in pre-Columbian contact with the Americas. This particular example (if completely accurate)is one of hundreds of known oopas that seem to vastly predate all of human civilization.<BR/><BR/>It is one of the better documented examples, but far from isolated. <BR/><BR/>Yes, the "science" could have been better documented with regard to supporting geologic evidence, but the story is well documented and available for reference -- as you so aptly demonstrated. The story and your treatment of it serve as wonderful examples of both how a "rumor in a UFO book" can be based in truth and of how truth can easily be turned to your own sensationalist meaning (Masonic meddling).<BR/><BR/>Kudos to you for your research. Shame on you for sensationalism.ozhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11368847069857493973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-1162654432554894992006-11-04T07:33:00.000-08:002006-11-04T07:33:00.000-08:00Interesting bit of research on that article. Do y...Interesting bit of research on that article. Do you have a copy of "Forbidden Archeology"? In there, on page 798, it lists it as June 5, 1852, and they call this Tubal Cain "the first inhabitant of Dorchester." <BR/><BR/>Interestingly, while this case doesn't, as you point out, say anything about an impression in the rock, there's many cases which do, particularly in situations where objects apparently fell out of coal.<BR/><BR/>I've always been interested in some OOPArt cases, and I'm glad I found your article this morning. Nice post. :-)Dustinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05375111867777214371noreply@blogger.com