tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post1261696075648680165..comments2024-03-19T11:13:40.642-07:00Comments on A Different Perspective: USS Helm RevisitedKRandlehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06333125414889883920noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-46864727367226960652013-07-10T18:17:43.312-07:002013-07-10T18:17:43.312-07:00Sentry -
Really... the alien from Earth vs.
the F...Sentry -<br /><br />Really... the alien from Earth vs.<br />the Flying Saucers. Didn't think I'd notice did you?<br /><br />David -<br /><br />The difference here is that there is no reason for the sighting not to have been noted in the deck logs. It is the sort of anomalous event that would have been logged and given the date, meaning 1942, there would be no one around to edit that log. No one was thinking in terms of UFOs then. It was just one of those strange things that would have been noted by the ship's crew and contained in the deck log...<br /><br />More important, we have no name for the single source, which means we can't verify that he was on the ship at the time. How many people have claimed to be at Roswell in 1947 and we learn they simply weren't there?<br /><br />I believe this case should be eliminated from any listings of UFOs because there is nothing to it except the word of an unidentified man. I suppose we could get the names of the other ships in the Guadalcanal invasion fleet and check the deck logs for them but I also believe there comes a point when we just have to let go. There is nothing substantial to this case and there is no documentation for it. There should be.KRandlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333125414889883920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-76251323484573937272013-07-10T15:25:32.472-07:002013-07-10T15:25:32.472-07:00The problem here is that things can be left out of...The problem here is that things can be left out of logs, even if they happen. I ran into that reviewing the October 7, 1965 UFO incident at Edwards AFB. Chuck Sorrels was the tower operator and later became a Disclosure Project witness. According to Sorrels, the UFOs (up to 11) were spotted on radar by four different bases. The Edward's base "UFO officer" ordered a jet scramble and submitted a case report to Project Blue Book along with some of the radar records, from which we found out about the case. All communications were recorded, but the tapes were cut into pieces afterward, but not destroyed, so much of the conversations have since been reconstructed.<br /><br />But when I personally went to Edwards to check the base logs, not one thing was mentioned about this incident, even though we know with certainty that it happened from parallel surviving documentation. Nothing appeared in the base newspaper, though it apparently caused quite a stir. I think it was Edgar Mitchell who said he was at Dryden research center there at the time attending a conference and was aware that it had happened (but wasn't a witness).<br /><br />But nothing in the base logs. I think it was also Jan Aldrich of Project 1947 who said he has observed the same thing in logs where UFO incidents frequently are not recorded.<br /><br />Same thing with the multiple sightings over Muroc (Edwards) in July 1947 that made it into Project Sign as unknowns but are not in base records.<br /><br />(Of course, reverse logic also does not say that if something is missing from the logs, then it is evidence that something may have happened, as in the USS Helm.)David Rudiakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10213284910238852377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-25429236843730997912013-07-09T07:34:12.702-07:002013-07-09T07:34:12.702-07:00I'm glad you took the time to report on negati...I'm glad you took the time to report on negative findings. Surely not as exciting as finding positive evidence, it's the only scientifically valid way to go about it. <br />At least recording your findings should save other researchers some time in the future, and eliminate the citing the case.Curt Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13773941506205598439noreply@blogger.com