tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post4439960168255870318..comments2024-03-18T16:51:50.688-07:00Comments on A Different Perspective: An Airship PhotographKRandlehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06333125414889883920noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-67099927194309058762013-02-18T09:09:02.986-08:002013-02-18T09:09:02.986-08:00All -
You understand that this is an admitted hoa...All -<br /><br />You understand that this is an admitted hoax. When one of the crewmen was recognized as a local man, they admitted it was a hoax. This thing never flew. It was erected on the fairgrounds as a hoax. Can't make it any clearer than that.KRandlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333125414889883920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-75148664540626999242013-02-17T12:53:45.071-08:002013-02-17T12:53:45.071-08:00Larry beat me to the punch, noting that the craft ...Larry beat me to the punch, noting that the craft is much to small to be a lighter-than-air craft. It couldn't have lifted itself much less a crew.<br /><br />What's interesting is that they had a REAL and sizeable craft as part of their hoax, a bit too much to build simply for a hoax, and the suggestion by Larry and CDA that it was a pre-existing water craft of some sort makes sense.<br /><br />One lesson here is that something shouldn't be dismissed out of hand as unreal just because it doesn't pass one's personal belief test. There's a case where airline passengers reported a flying elephant--yes a flying elephant. Obviously this was a mass delusion, with the psychosocial crowd, probably theorizing they were psychologically influenced by Disney's Dumbo the Flying Elephant cartoon.<br /><br />Turned out it was circus helium balloon elephant that had gotten loose. So the passengers were indeed accurate in describing a flying elephant, even if not a real elephant.<br /><br />Take home point is that witnesses are usually accurate enough in their descriptions that something mundane can usually be found to explain it.David Rudiakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10213284910238852377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-88574871853816001832013-02-17T05:50:41.223-08:002013-02-17T05:50:41.223-08:00I notice is isn't flying and doesn't appea...I notice is isn't flying and doesn't appear large enough to fly.Bryan Daumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05946360571864002364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-86953446622470590952013-02-16T20:09:03.565-08:002013-02-16T20:09:03.565-08:00....as a 'retired' Rocket Scientist', .......as a 'retired' Rocket Scientist', I must heartily agree with the post by 'Larry' - after almost 38 years of UFO research, I have found that "gasbags" comprise the backbone of the the pontificating UFO Expert Class....<br /><br />- ChelnickUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11203419422003775264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-37572738260793152992013-02-16T10:53:11.252-08:002013-02-16T10:53:11.252-08:00Kevin:
The Rocket Scientist in me couldn’t help b...Kevin:<br /><br />The Rocket Scientist in me couldn’t help but analyze the “airship” in the pthotograph. Each gasbag on the contraption is a little over 4 times as long as it is in diameter. Judging by the individual standing closest to the contraption , I estimate the maximum diameter to be about 7 ft. Approximating the shape as a cylinder that is both shorter than and smaller in diameter than, the actual gasbag, I calculate the volume of each gasbag as about 500 cubic feet. Since there are two bags, the total displacement volume is about 1000 cubic ft. In that era, I think it would have been almost impossible to obtain Helium in large quantities, whereas Hydrogen had been in use as a lifting gas since at least the Civil War. So, 1000 cubic ft of Hydrogen supplies no more than about 70 lb of lift. Seventy poiunds of buoyancy would have to support the weight of the gasbags, the kerosene powered lantern on the bow, the sternhouse and motor, the propeller, and of course, the pilot himself. <br /><br />Bottom line—this contraption could not come close to getting in the air. Also absent are any rudders, elevators, or other control surfaces which would be necessary for controlled aerial flight. <br /><br />And yet, it was real; someone built it. I would suggest that it was actually a pontoon boat, with airscrew propulsion (like a swamp buggy).<br /><br />BTW, similar calculations and considerations show why the Socorro craft described by Zamora was also not a lighter-than-air craft.Larryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14431818950679813051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-2208536298256603442013-02-16T08:48:39.512-08:002013-02-16T08:48:39.512-08:00CDA -
The drawning looks like the photograph, jus...CDA -<br /><br />The drawning looks like the photograph, just from another angle. Never suggested this was alien, ever, in all the places that I have referenced this case. It was always an admitted hoax. I'm surprised you missed that.<br /><br />Frank -<br /><br />Beat me in my own backyard. I will confess when I learned it was a hoax, I just never followed up on it. You fund the photograph long before I did...<br /><br />I am still shocked, shocked I day, that there was a photograph, given the time... but then there are thousands of photos from the Civil War, which took place 30 years earlier.KRandlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333125414889883920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-40614540572807824882013-02-16T08:34:35.678-08:002013-02-16T08:34:35.678-08:00Mornin' Kevin,
The entire Waterloo Daily Cou...Mornin' Kevin, <br /><br />The entire <i>Waterloo Daily Courier</i> article, entitled, <i>Airship Hoax Reaps Fame For City </i> appears here:<br /><br />http://tinyurl.com/bu7b8qu<br /><br />Cheers,<br />FrankFrank Warrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18211373074817092828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-17398210602259386022013-02-16T07:55:09.377-08:002013-02-16T07:55:09.377-08:00If the photo wasn't available the drawing sugg...If the photo wasn't available the drawing suggests a kind of landing craft, carrying troops about to land on a beach.<br /><br />The photo depicts two ellipsoids, presumably hollow and filled with a gas.<br /><br />Neither suggests a visiting ET craft. Any ideas on this?cdahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01005702597775594084noreply@blogger.com