tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post5446566217959871133..comments2024-03-19T11:13:40.642-07:00Comments on A Different Perspective: The Fermi ParadoxKRandlehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06333125414889883920noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-61977231264923809662011-01-09T04:56:15.624-08:002011-01-09T04:56:15.624-08:00Surely the most consistent feature of the UFO phen...Surely the most consistent feature of the UFO phenomenon is the plausible deniability of the evidence. This goes even for the Roswell 'crash debris', the description of which resembles weather balloon type material even though on the balance of evidence it probably wasn't. So we could assume that the aliens are here but don't want it proven that they are here on the level of the mainstream consensus. This is a paradox for the Fermi Paradox.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-64599670227142861552010-02-07T15:32:06.287-08:002010-02-07T15:32:06.287-08:00Hello Kevin -
I have follwed your endeavors in th...Hello Kevin -<br /><br />I have follwed your endeavors in this field and admire your work. As a fellow Iowan, I am hoping you can help. I am seeking to attend my first UFO related conference and I am seeking direction on which one I should attend. My two requirements:<br /><br />1. It must take place after July, even if that means waiting until next year.<br /><br />2. I would like to have the focus of the conference to be of a serious nature. I looked up a few, and I saw that some place as much emphasis on the "pet dress up" contest as they do on the discussions.<br /><br />Any thoughts would be helpful!<br /><br />Thanks!Michaeltrainshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06363445402098803250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-63004751326146429692010-01-30T20:45:22.031-08:002010-01-30T20:45:22.031-08:00You should use moderation to prevent porn spam lik...You should use moderation to prevent porn spam like that last comment. You are only encouraging the spammers if you don't.<br /><br />Another possible resolution of the Fermi Paradox is that the spammers destroy any civilization sufficiently advanced to develop email and something like the Internet...shanenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14051373688311508531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-57695627181261926612010-01-10T20:48:21.625-08:002010-01-10T20:48:21.625-08:00Hmm... I also wrote a blog entry about the Fermi P...Hmm... I also wrote <a href="http://eco-epistemology.blogspot.com/2007/08/resolution-of-fermi-paradox.html" rel="nofollow">a blog entry about the Fermi Paradox</a>. Actually, I wrote the first part a couple of years ago, and have been adding some new thoughts recently. My current 'solution' is that the aliens are designed, not evolved, and they are just gambling on whether or not we will survive long enough to design our own replacements.<br /><br />That led me to go around visiting other blogs that mention the paradox. I definitely reject the UFO angle...shanenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14051373688311508531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-27478606082954604552010-01-09T08:18:11.660-08:002010-01-09T08:18:11.660-08:00"We haven't seen aliens, therefore they d..."We haven't seen aliens, therefore they don't exist!" - fermi's "paradox" always seemed glib & ignorant to me.<br /><br />I mean, not that they've looked usually, but we have tons of evidence that aliens have visited Earth. It's just that it's 2nd or maybe 3rd rate evidence, but it's evidence still I say.number sixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02442574202712492429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-47573646174492852402010-01-04T06:14:56.161-08:002010-01-04T06:14:56.161-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.yeahlvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04513511930272939726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-34008364432465238452010-01-01T13:09:13.625-08:002010-01-01T13:09:13.625-08:00CDA -
Didn't expect to engage in a debate but...CDA -<br /><br />Didn't expect to engage in a debate but was merely suggesting an answer to the Internet poster who said that no one had come up with a good response to the Fermi Paradox. If some UFOs are alien, then that is an answer. I also suggested that some assumptions made in relation to the paradox might be inaccurate... I mean, how long does it take to populate a galaxy? What kind of world would aliens seek? How long does an industrial or technological civilization last? Might it be that no one is here yet simply because of the collapse of civilizations? Or maybe, as they advance, their priorities change.<br /><br />But really, I had no intention of engaging in a debate. Merely offered a possible solution.KRandlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333125414889883920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-68734385370481023922010-01-01T08:20:19.386-08:002010-01-01T08:20:19.386-08:00Hey Kevin -- here's a poetic treatment includi...Hey Kevin -- here's a poetic treatment including Fermi that might amuse you or your readers:<br /><br />~<br />http://thedebrisfield.blogspot.com/2009/12/alienviews-six-facets-of-preponderance.html<br /><br />alienview@roadrunner.com<br />> www.AlienView.net<br />>> AVG Blog -- http://alienviewgroup.blogspot.com/<br />>>> U F O M a g a z i n e -- www.ufomag.comAlfred Lehmberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02028589165474437987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-84534844084894957612010-01-01T02:18:56.313-08:002010-01-01T02:18:56.313-08:00Kevin:
I have turned up a paper presented at a Bri...Kevin:<br />I have turned up a paper presented at a British Interplanetary Society conference in Nov 1982 where the authors say the famous Fermi paradox dates back 35 years. This would bring it back to the dawn of the UFO era, so it is possible you are correct. <br /><br />However, I have never heard that Fermi had at any time talked about, written on, or even had any interest in UFOs, so I am still skeptical whether the 'UFO connection' was ever part of his question on "where are they?" <br /><br />Are UFOs mentioned anywhere in his papers? Perhaps someone can enlighten us (Anthony Bragalia maybe?). <br /><br />I decline to get into any argument on the likelihood of whether 'they' are here or ever have been here. It is like trying to debate Drake's equation. No thanks!cdahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01005702597775594084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-71582776760387204692009-12-31T17:05:06.292-08:002009-12-31T17:05:06.292-08:00CDA -
From Wikipedia (I should learn not to use i...CDA -<br /><br />From Wikipedia (I should learn not to use it)... "In 1950, while working at Los Alamos National Laboratory, the physicist Enrico Fermi had a casual conversation while walking to lunch with colleagues Emil Konopinski, Edward Teller and Herbert York. The men lightly discussed a recent spate of UFO reports and an Alan Dunn cartoon[9] facetiously blaming the disappearance of municipal trashcans on marauding aliens. They then had a more serious discussion regarding the chances of humans observing faster-than-light travel by some material object within the next ten years, which Teller put at one in a million, but Fermi put closer to one in ten."KRandlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333125414889883920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-26122785748676618442009-12-31T15:20:38.098-08:002009-12-31T15:20:38.098-08:00Where did you hear that Enrico Fermi & his fri...Where did you hear that Enrico Fermi & his friends were "talking about the latest UFO reports" when he posed his famous paradox? I have never heard this before. I read that Fermi brought it up at Los Alamos in the mid-1940s, but there are variations on this.cdahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01005702597775594084noreply@blogger.com