tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post6989516709932079492..comments2024-03-19T11:13:40.642-07:00Comments on A Different Perspective: ALLEGED ROSWELL WITNESS UPDATEKRandlehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06333125414889883920noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-5896796735434775292017-08-05T19:09:48.203-07:002017-08-05T19:09:48.203-07:00John Steiger....i forgot to mention that you and K...John Steiger....i forgot to mention that you and Kevin Randle might want to check on THE BLUE PLANET PROJECT series of books by Gil Carlson BLUE PLANET PROJECT.COM. They contain information about MJ-12, alien races, alien symbols found on crashed UFOs, alien language, everything having to do with aliens and their space craft can be found i have not heard before anywhere else and there are some wild claims that should be investigated further by someone of military background!james tankersleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08957576586789944754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-23514736796766062762017-08-05T18:37:08.012-07:002017-08-05T18:37:08.012-07:00John Steiger.....thank you for your input.i am sti...John Steiger.....thank you for your input.i am still 99% convinced there have been UFO crashes and if there was a MJ-12 control group, then those records leading to their existence would be destroyed if they were in violation of any laws, since there are claims they did just that to preserve that precious secret of the Roswell crash being alien, so i am not at all surprized no one has found any proof they existed. There are claims by some who were in the military that they were ordered to destroy records that would tell all the information that would lead as to what exactly did happen at Roswell, and those in charge did not want to take that risk so a lot of the paper trail naturally would be gone. The crash in J.B. Michaels book has a date given sometime in November 1992, but i am wondering if it occured at a later date since i know i saw a giant orange amber orb fitting the description given in that book.Regardless, there may have been a flap going on in late 92 that lasted through 1993 and 1994!james tankersleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08957576586789944754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-11120985091635447792017-08-04T13:39:46.685-07:002017-08-04T13:39:46.685-07:00Mr. Tankersley (James) -- I hear your pain at the ...Mr. Tankersley (James) -- I hear your pain at the ongoing and seemingly everlasting churning over historical UFO crash analyses, but as Dr. Randle has pointed out in his two in depth books focused on UFO crashes - A History of UFO Crashes (1995) and CRASH: When UFOs Fall from the Sky (2010) - there simply are not many credible UFO crash cases extant, and this is from my perspective as an ardent ET believer. I disagree with John Keel on the point you cite because witnesses are only part of (albeit an important part) of UFO investigation. There is a possibility of a physical finding at one of the Roswell crash sites, as well as the possibility of supporting documentation [and I am not referring to the MJ-12 documents here] being uncovered.<br /><br />Thank you for the references to the Brookhaven NY crash and to the book by J.B. Michaels. I will research these as soon as I am able.John Steigerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10038697365721558826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-78833977992517939842017-07-27T20:06:08.246-07:002017-07-27T20:06:08.246-07:00If we could just research a UFO crash that happene...If we could just research a UFO crash that happened recently and more credible people came forward who could supply more evidence for that event, then maybe that proof would automatically open more flood gates to solve the mystery of the Roswell crash once and for all without all the endless speculation of secret balloon flights and military experiments that are also without documentable proof as well, and this just confuses the issue even more if no such activity took place. John Keel was also correct when he stated it is useless investigating a case that is 50 years old since all the first hand witnesses are dead! In the book UFO ENCOUNTERS by author J.B. Michaels is a UFO crash that took place in Brookhaven New York in 1993 or 1994 that i personally believe actually took place because within that time period, I and countless others observed one of these giant orange amber orbs hovering over the airport in Hendersonville N.C. on the early morning hours of 5 AM just as i was going to work Febuary 14 and this thing just sit there for a long while before it started moving and it did not make a sound at all! It was incredible to view this and no satisfactory answer that would explain it in logical terms could be found and was never given! No one knew what it was! And i have never seen anything like it before and since to this very day!james tankersleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08957576586789944754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-57338115728777851482017-07-27T06:29:19.249-07:002017-07-27T06:29:19.249-07:00Mr. Bell (Brian) -- For once I don't think we&...Mr. Bell (Brian) -- For once I don't think we're in complete disagreement. The proof depends upon the evidentiary standard one requires.<br />Conclusive proof is one standard. Beyond a reasonable doubt another, and preponderance of the credible evidence still another. The evidence of a Roswell ET meets the preponderance of the credible evidence standard, and as such is not a myth.<br /><br />cda -- new 'witnesses' 100 years after the fact, very funny! Very Funny indeed ... fortunately, the resolution to the entire ET question shall come to pass BEFORE the Roswell centenary. Have faith!John Steigerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10038697365721558826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-12061642676924092852017-07-25T18:11:08.145-07:002017-07-25T18:11:08.145-07:00Kevin Randle..."Timing doesn't work for A...Kevin Randle...<i>"Timing doesn't work for Aztec."</i><br /><br />Absolutely. I suppose I was just stating the obvious; The craft described by this "Johnny come lately" is enormous compared to the fragmented debris described at the Foster site and the tiny object described at the "escape pod" site. I have never heard anyone describe the Roswell object as being anywhere near the size described by this man. <br /><br />I have to agree with Brian Bell that this chap seems to just want to "get in on the act" using a mish-mash of stories he's heard about Roswell and Aztec. <br /><br />I think KR would be safe to put him in the "Walter Mitty" file alongside Frank Kaufmann, etc.Paul Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04267452625547760508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-16495482904277880912017-07-25T13:34:42.883-07:002017-07-25T13:34:42.883-07:00@ John Steiger
No John, not any evidence which co...@ John Steiger<br /><br />No John, not any evidence which conclusively and beyond any question proves ET crashed at Roswell. You have 2nd and 3rd hand testimony at best, a few first hand testimonies, and quite a few purposely fake (lies and deceptions) testimonies from supposed "key" witnesses which are the rock on which the myth is built.<br /><br />At best, at least for me, we can't claim the event was a Mogul balloon gone astray because the official record doesn't document that any flew which would account for the debris (which was first described as balloon in nature). An error in the records? Perhaps, but we can't prove that either.Brian Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04201018843054563257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-6789816452987382502017-07-25T11:23:06.256-07:002017-07-25T11:23:06.256-07:00We already know he picked and chose various elemen...We already know he picked and chose various elements of saucer crash stories to assemble this nonsense into a testimony that I presume would "write him into history". Move along, move along. Nothin' to really see here folks - just another Roswell wanabee IMHO.Brian Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04201018843054563257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-90450908024653123262017-07-25T05:45:28.436-07:002017-07-25T05:45:28.436-07:00Michael Redmond: Bullcrap! What research of Rosw...Michael Redmond: Bullcrap! What research of Roswell have you undertaken ... if any? There is plenty of evidence to support the Roswell ET. But you have to do your homework!John Steigerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10038697365721558826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-16824007177417947872017-07-25T05:20:21.655-07:002017-07-25T05:20:21.655-07:00The Roswell centenary in 2047 should produce a flu...The Roswell centenary in 2047 should produce a flurry of new 'witnesses', be they 2nd hand, 3rd hand, 4th hand, etc. It will be a Roswell reincarnation event. Book your places now.cdahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01005702597775594084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-60260251041057458612017-07-24T14:02:53.045-07:002017-07-24T14:02:53.045-07:00I suppose Forgus could have taken a wrong turn and...I suppose Forgus could have taken a wrong turn and ended up in Kingman Arizona just in time for the 1953 crash (or crashes). If everyone is to be believed, these things were falling out of the sky all over the Southwest. But apart from speculating on design errors and whether any craft had insurance, it might shed more light on the nature of memory and human experience, even if someone is a straight-laced and no-nonsense person. Ericksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13489446146745522101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-63556651391421930012017-07-24T09:33:54.473-07:002017-07-24T09:33:54.473-07:00Sigh. Will ufologists ever stop rehashing old case...Sigh. Will ufologists ever stop rehashing old cases about which the most basic facts cannot be verified? Let's face it: At this point Roswell is best understood as a full-blown religious myth. Michael Redmondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07975372182080656049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-30027792983009533832017-07-22T16:03:00.459-07:002017-07-22T16:03:00.459-07:00If we could find out the exact date and day he saw...If we could find out the exact date and day he saw all this, it could validate another crash retrieval we as yet dont know enough about. Roswell was not the only case, and i am sure there have been others we could find out more about, and who really knows how many crashes have occured we know nothing about? It could also be possible he saw the craft and bodies while they (the military) were moving it around from the impact site.james tankersleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08957576586789944754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-76534733104063517902017-07-21T08:49:51.096-07:002017-07-21T08:49:51.096-07:00Kevin, the timing is ALWAYS right when the story i...Kevin, the timing is ALWAYS right when the story isn't true.Lancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17280922104955532058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-52047973177787435422017-07-21T08:42:17.799-07:002017-07-21T08:42:17.799-07:00Paul -
Timing doesn't work for Aztec.Paul -<br /><br />Timing doesn't work for Aztec.KRandlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333125414889883920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-69695561002066963962017-07-21T08:32:45.705-07:002017-07-21T08:32:45.705-07:00110 foot UFO! (I'm presuming we're talking...110 foot UFO! (I'm presuming we're talking diameter here?)<br />This more resembles the size described of the flying saucer in the Aztec story.Paul Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04267452625547760508noreply@blogger.com