tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post716449553191041889..comments2024-03-19T11:13:40.642-07:00Comments on A Different Perspective: The Mantell AnalysesKRandlehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06333125414889883920noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-86024739853816351792017-09-27T00:59:31.166-07:002017-09-27T00:59:31.166-07:00Good morning.
This is a preliminary comment but i...Good morning.<br /><br />This is a preliminary comment but it might be useful to raise this now as others may have been able to find more background information on this than I have so far.<br /><br />In this comment I'm focusing specifically on the question of could Mantell have been chasing a Skyhook balloon? There is much more in both reports that I haven't begun to consider at the moment.<br /><br />At first sight this seems the most likely explanation given the description and behaviour of the object. There does however seem to be a lack of actual documentation of a Skyhook launch on the 6th or 7th January 1948, either from Clinton County in Ohio (as suggested by Ruppelt) or from Minnesota, near the General Mills facility, based on the claim by Professor Moore.<br /><br />For Dr. Randle therefore I would ask the question as to how much confidence can we place in the Skyhook hypothesis and should this be regarded as a possible explanation rather than a firm conclusion? Has anyone actually located any documentation around the timings and location of Skyhook launches in this time period?<br /><br />Conversely, for Mr Ridge, I am unclear why two reports of a sighting of a balloon near Nashville between 16:00 and 16:30 (CST) on the 7th January rules out a Skyhook being SW of Goodman airfield at 13.50 and at an intermediate location, somewhat to the south or south west of the crash site at Franklin at 15:15. At first sight that all seems to work quite well with common stratospheric wind speeds. Estimates of speeds from observers must be taken with a large pinch of salt as it is clear none of the Air Force personnel were thinking of a balloon in the stratosphere, given the attempted intercept, but rather something much lower and therefore presumably smaller and closer than it actually was, leading to probably underestimates of speed.<br /><br />Against that we only have the comment from Ruppelt that the winds aloft were consistent with a flight path from Ohio. It would be ideal if the relevant documentation on all of this could be found, with launch details for the Skyhook and winds aloft data but a quick internet search hasn't come up with anything on that so far.<br /><br />Overall therefore is this case not a possible Skyhook rather than a confirmed identification? (Venus may well have got into the mix as well with the evening reports etc.)Anthony Muganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08195694902712869724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-14460982900783986732017-09-25T04:56:16.392-07:002017-09-25T04:56:16.392-07:00Great idea...
It will take me a week or two to put...Great idea...<br />It will take me a week or two to put anything sensible together though.<br /><br />Anthony Muganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08195694902712869724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-46312835888121827402017-09-25T00:49:03.272-07:002017-09-25T00:49:03.272-07:00One question. Was there every any mention of gun c...One question. Was there every any mention of gun camera film in any of the P-51's? Mr. Sweepyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09966969362028196312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-73417120682367746922017-09-23T07:25:18.260-07:002017-09-23T07:25:18.260-07:00At the UFO UpDates Facebook group, a UFO fanatic p...At the UFO UpDates Facebook group, a UFO fanatic posted some of Brad Sparks' work on the Mantell case, documentation that shows Mantell had oxygen equipment, but shows that it was not serviced prior to his flight. In other words, the supply was probably empty. Another pilot was landing to have his oxygen refreshed, and it's likely Mantell's plane was in the same condition. In my estimate, Sparks has produced evidence to support the hypoxia conclusion.Curt Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13773941506205598439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-81816052675590357482017-09-23T03:18:59.438-07:002017-09-23T03:18:59.438-07:00I have not read much of his analysis. Is he still...I have not read much of his analysis. Is he still hoping the Mantell UFO was a true unidentified and thus a likely visiting spaceship?cdahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01005702597775594084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-86565996863911153602017-09-22T13:25:49.701-07:002017-09-22T13:25:49.701-07:00Suggestions for a general list of 'peer review... Suggestions for a general list of 'peer reviewers' who would volunteer to typically handle such? Dr Tim Brighamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00223867102830581724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-91761375536633629652017-09-22T02:04:12.341-07:002017-09-22T02:04:12.341-07:00I think your analysis is very good. Well thought o...I think your analysis is very good. Well thought out and well written.<br /><br />I would add one tiny footnote on Captain Thomas Mantell personal history. As a experience WWII pilot, and even as a transport pilot, he would have seen and know about stars and planets. I would add that he likely have seen balloons before in his training. Last, he had experience seeing other airplanes in the air while flying.<br /> Mr. Sweepyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09966969362028196312noreply@blogger.com