tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post833110620101577859..comments2024-03-19T11:13:40.642-07:00Comments on A Different Perspective: Philip Corso and MJ-12KRandlehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06333125414889883920noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-43590844785553398932011-02-02T13:05:17.399-08:002011-02-02T13:05:17.399-08:00The Ft. Riley alien body account definitely sounds...The Ft. Riley alien body account definitely sounds fictional, as does much of Corso's story. Having been in the military, and also working in the defense industry with secret clearance for many years, am I to accept the story as Corso tells it? A wooden crate in the middle of a darkened hanger or warehouse, with a lone NCO guarding it in the middle of the night?? Really?? And an old filing cabinet full of alien technology?? Seriously?? I don't buy it. I have no idea why this apparently well-respected man decided to tell this outlandish story, but I think that it just adds more incredulity to the UFO/ET question.fysisisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06968068197707181040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-9597490645777951812011-01-23T06:16:57.985-08:002011-01-23T06:16:57.985-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Chet Dembeckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15513814155617460113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-5575021324985881432011-01-23T05:42:39.304-08:002011-01-23T05:42:39.304-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Chet Dembeckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15513814155617460113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-36580109196578261952011-01-23T05:28:49.611-08:002011-01-23T05:28:49.611-08:00"...the issue is where Stone came up with thi..."...the issue is where Stone came up with this..."<br /><br />You mean he documented everything he said, until he mentioned the 57 races, which "lost you" ? lol.starmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09884942748644499035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-4720251838242763182011-01-22T15:16:38.502-08:002011-01-22T15:16:38.502-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Chet Dembeckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15513814155617460113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-64042117281401145102011-01-22T14:47:22.971-08:002011-01-22T14:47:22.971-08:00Histronics:
One answer to your question about Sto...Histronics:<br /><br />One answer to your question about Stone and the 57 varieties is that perhaps he has actually met one representative from each of these 57 alien races. You could hardly expect him to have supporting documents for this. <br /><br />All right, I'm being facetious, but why not? Sometimes you just have to treat a few (very few) UFO spokespersons or UFO buffs in this way.<br /><br />He certainly claims to have personally witnessed almost everything that could happen in the UFO world. <br /><br />Do we in fact know if Stone is still resident on planet earth?cdahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01005702597775594084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-21832328155163925252011-01-22T14:32:00.750-08:002011-01-22T14:32:00.750-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Chet Dembeckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15513814155617460113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-33835422265274819192011-01-22T11:01:57.742-08:002011-01-22T11:01:57.742-08:00"What he said that day sounded reasonable unt..."What he said that day sounded reasonable until he started talking about 57 different kind of alien races. He lost me there."<br /><br />I agree that many of these so called informants aren't credible. But the above isn't so outlandish. As I posted before, even if we exclude the possibility that many alien types are artificial creations, the figure of 57 is far below many estimates of the number of alien races in the galaxy. It's only about half of Drake's estimate of 100, considered conservative by others.starmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09884942748644499035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-52500446082623531562011-01-22T09:37:22.503-08:002011-01-22T09:37:22.503-08:00I'm going to step in here briefly, with a long...I'm going to step in here briefly, with a longer post to follow in the near future. I wanted to point out that Noe Torres and Ruben Uriarte who wrote about the Willingham case believed that Bruce Maccabee had checked out Willingham. Maccabee thought that Todd Zechel had done it. Nobody had done it. Zechel, I think, knew the truth about Willingham's CAP connection but said nothing about it.<br /><br />The point is that we sometimes have to ask the difficult questions and suspend our will to believe. Willingham seemed like a nice old man, but he was lying about his military career, forged documents to prove part of it and tried to gain a pension which he did not deserve. That eliminates him from the running.<br /><br />And, as I saw, it took me almost a year to find the original story told by Willingham to compare it was the last and the two don't really come together other to suggest that a UFO crashed in Mexico.<br /><br />Please remember that most of us do UFO research part time and using our own money. Sometimes we just don't cover all the bases.KRandlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333125414889883920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-15105633723490670452011-01-22T07:13:24.539-08:002011-01-22T07:13:24.539-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Chet Dembeckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15513814155617460113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-56886409201822893032011-01-22T06:15:57.126-08:002011-01-22T06:15:57.126-08:00Histronics:
You have your doubts about these guys...Histronics:<br /><br />You have your doubts about these guys? So do a great many others!<br /><br />Radio and TV interviewers are apt to give fawning interviews to people who allege anomalous experiences (such as abductees) for the sake of general politeness. I am not the least surprised about Clifford Stone. I have one book of his that says it all. He believes, literally, in MJ-12. At least he did then, about 15 years ago. He probably still does. And yes, he once witnessed a UFO crash. And so on. Next thing, he will be abducted, if not already. Maybe before long he will be transported to Alpha Centauri. <br /><br />You mention you read a 'crash' book by a 'Mr Kendle'. Do you mean K.Randle? If so, which such book? He has written at least three, to my knowledge.cdahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01005702597775594084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-38212406240171889452011-01-22T05:19:34.116-08:002011-01-22T05:19:34.116-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Chet Dembeckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15513814155617460113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-59067696514755614692011-01-22T03:35:31.260-08:002011-01-22T03:35:31.260-08:00"Think about it, men in combat come back with..."Think about it, men in combat come back with trinkets..."<br /><br />Apples and oranges. That's mundane stuff not above top secret. You're right to take these stories with a grain of salt but we shouldn't dismiss them.starmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09884942748644499035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-7085981461496229522011-01-21T11:09:47.445-08:002011-01-21T11:09:47.445-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Chet Dembeckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15513814155617460113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-70033923939190071562011-01-21T10:32:41.769-08:002011-01-21T10:32:41.769-08:00KDR:
"seeing an alien body at Ft. Riley.&quo...KDR:<br /><br />"seeing an alien body at Ft. Riley."<br /><br />Ft Riley Kansas? A crash is said to have occurred there late in '64 so I don't know if we can dismiss this out of hand.<br /><br />"..that there are 57 varieties of aliens."<br /><br />Even excluding the possibility that some alien types are created artificially, that's not many compared to some estimates of the number of alien civilizations in the galaxy.<br /><br />"..Corso told him that the alien were biological robots.."<br /><br />Considering the likely impact of new technology on our own species, I'd be more surprised if advanced ETs are in a wholly natural state.<br /><br />"..he also teared up a couple of times about how mean we are to the aliens."<br /><br />Sounds real funny but others have, after all, claimed much the same thing. Tungate, Magruder (or his sons) and others have indicated confinement and testing on aliens, which wouldn't be surprising.starmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09884942748644499035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-7214043162194439572011-01-21T09:47:37.293-08:002011-01-21T09:47:37.293-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Chet Dembeckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15513814155617460113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-58179099049480186142011-01-21T09:28:35.157-08:002011-01-21T09:28:35.157-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Chet Dembeckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15513814155617460113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-81107906224826441362011-01-21T08:27:25.706-08:002011-01-21T08:27:25.706-08:00Starman -
Oh, I don't know... Corso's cla...Starman -<br /><br />Oh, I don't know... Corso's claim of a time machine, shutting down the radar systems at White Sands... seeing an alien body at Ft. Riley...<br /><br />Stone's claim he was at Kecksburg... or rather at the air base the ship was taken too... that he remote viewed the scene... that he is a member of some team that travels to crash sites (I wonder if he sees Willingham there?)... that there are 57 varieties of aliens...<br /><br />That enough?KRandlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333125414889883920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-67608937005501255272011-01-21T07:49:18.925-08:002011-01-21T07:49:18.925-08:00What remarks by Corso and Stone sound crazy to you...What remarks by Corso and Stone sound crazy to you?starmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09884942748644499035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-967588058090317692011-01-21T04:19:24.187-08:002011-01-21T04:19:24.187-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Chet Dembeckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15513814155617460113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-25425374011070604022011-01-18T06:50:41.194-08:002011-01-18T06:50:41.194-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Chet Dembeckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15513814155617460113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-35906455152045466592011-01-18T02:57:28.269-08:002011-01-18T02:57:28.269-08:00Histrionics, what about Corso rings true (other th...Histrionics, what about Corso rings true (other than Roswell was ET of course)? :)starmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09884942748644499035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-46524578028577171252011-01-17T15:47:08.461-08:002011-01-17T15:47:08.461-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Chet Dembeckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15513814155617460113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-57751719103772792592011-01-17T14:53:35.793-08:002011-01-17T14:53:35.793-08:00I agree with your last two sentences.
It reminds...I agree with your last two sentences. <br /><br />It reminds me that Ray Santilli, when his (in)famous autopsy film first aired in 1995, had said in support of his film, that the two principal MJ-12 documents, namely the Hillenkoetter/Eisenhower briefing and the Truman letter, were both official releases from the National Archives!<br /><br />Wrong on both counts, but you cannot reject Santilli's autopsy film on this score. You have to do so on other grounds.cdahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01005702597775594084noreply@blogger.com