tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post9150289314945945108..comments2024-03-19T11:13:40.642-07:00Comments on A Different Perspective: Fort Itaipu and Olavo Fontes RevisitedKRandlehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06333125414889883920noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-76957839612743127252018-07-03T22:00:54.478-07:002018-07-03T22:00:54.478-07:00Like most UFO tales,there is no shortage of detrac...Like most UFO tales,there is no shortage of detractors who will scramble at anything to dismiss UFO's as any thing other than what they possibly may be,our institutions are filled with the hapless victims of this crime as UFO sightings are to be reduced to delusion and madness,this is dangerous assumption and UFO's are certainly anything but madness,god help us if the madmen of this world escape that judgement in favour of the UFO witness,what this tells us that UFO's are serious business and some people are desperate to keep this understanding from you,they will go to any lenghts even resort to violence and threats such as the "men-in-black" as this is no misundestanding here,this is not swamp gas the planet venus or ball lighting at work here, this is crude and brutal excersice of violence calculated to shut the mouths of witnesses so you never understand the UFO truth,In the 1960,s plans for the largest generation of hydro-electric power and talks between the nations of paraguay and brazil commenced to dam the parana river and exploit this resource,today the Itaipu hydro project is the largest hydro dam in the world with millions of brazil's and paraguay's citizens connected to its grid.Is it conincidence the guards at Itaipu fort should be burned by UFO activity and the barracks be blacked out or is there some similarity here we all may have missed?.Who knows indeed fiollowing the principle i give above you have understand that in todays climate you may consider yourselves lucky to receive any UFO reports facing charges of insanity and threats of violence but you should appreciate and apply rational thinking as the threat of UFO's and there consequences may lie more in your nieghbours thinking than the supposed crafts activities? i leave you to consider what this sighting and its effects incur but like most UFO sightings there must be some kind of rational purpose some kind of practical meaning and some kind of scientific understanding for mankind.Remember someone wants you to know nothing of this phenomanon and i ask with all severity why?.eric jarviehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08704036795092970932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-43442011996381610222016-09-26T15:09:38.843-07:002016-09-26T15:09:38.843-07:00Great work [as usual] Kevin.
The sad thing about t...Great work [as usual] Kevin.<br />The sad thing about this whole iffy charlatanistic exercise in headline grabbing bilk , is that I was pretty well taken in by 'Dr Olavo Fontes' and erroneously had been affording the guy a degree of credibility that he patently does not deserve. ..I'm beginning to think that i'll never shed this penchant for simple gullibility!<br /><br />Cheers Alex.Alex Cunliffehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05324463911038433168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-38319909595753006722016-06-17T08:13:11.122-07:002016-06-17T08:13:11.122-07:00Neal Foy -
You have noted the differences between...Neal Foy -<br /><br />You have noted the differences between the Fort Itaipu event and that from Kerman, California... that is, we have the names and documents that confirm an event in Kerman, and we have nothing to show that the soldiers were burned in Brazil. The two case, however, are not related.KRandlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333125414889883920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-65323953832430737162016-06-17T07:53:21.050-07:002016-06-17T07:53:21.050-07:00I agree that this case is extremely thin, but it r...I agree that this case is extremely thin, but it reminds me of the Kerman, Ca. case in which an orange object was said to have produced burns on Police Officer Manuel Amparano. You had at least three previous blogs on this case so I'm not looking for further discussion.Unlike the Fort Itaipu case it did have documentation and a living witness. Can they be related? I don't know.<br /><br />There is one passage that said, “One of these, which was not reported in the press, particularly [in] stunning detail, able to shake the most stubborn of skeptics.” (apparently referring to the Fort Itaipu case)<br /><br />I did want to note that the passage above was optimistic to the extreme given the venom spewed by debunkers toward Mr. Amparano. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16703256896826354786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-13229122906993321152016-06-16T12:23:45.947-07:002016-06-16T12:23:45.947-07:00Anthony -
It is assumed by other writers and inve...Anthony -<br /><br />It is assumed by other writers and investigators that information as published is accurate. Given my long history in this field, I know many people and can contact them to make sure the information is accurate. Others just assume that if they find the information repeated in several sources, that information is accurate, which is why I started chasing footnotes... too often I have found that the original information is not the same as that printed later. Too often there is an acceptance that the original investigator or researcher followed all the leads but many times they did not. Sometimes personal bias gets in the way. Today, following up is much easier than it was even 15 years ago... most of the writers did the best they could given that telephone calls cost money, trips to the library were time consuming and the sources of information weren't as readily available as they are today. But, given all that, we all should be attempting to find the truth rather than our version of the truth.<br /><br />CDA -<br /><br />Thanks for the clarification... I have updated the article to make it more accurate.KRandlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333125414889883920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-8701932466018481012016-06-16T10:46:04.748-07:002016-06-16T10:46:04.748-07:00Kevin:
In fact it was the article I cited (Jan/Fe...Kevin:<br /><br />In fact it was the article I cited (Jan/Feb 1960 by Jules Lemaitre) that described the case. That front cover illustration of Sept/Oct was merely one picked from 1960 as an example of an FSR cover. The story was printed in January. As you say the Brazilian writer, summarising in 2010, reflects your views that the case somehow does not ring true. Lemaitre (Pierre Guerin) merely lifted the tale from a Fontes article in the APRO Bulletin a few months earlier.cdahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01005702597775594084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-85911593316527557442016-06-16T09:44:25.021-07:002016-06-16T09:44:25.021-07:00Thank you for the very detailed review of the evid...Thank you for the very detailed review of the evidence for this case. This is one of many thorough case reviews you have presented and in more challenging cases the blog also provides a very useful forum for discussion which can sometimes take things forward ( the discussions on the McMinville photos and the Tremonton film a while ago spring to mind, for example, to pick two examples where the balance of evidence went in opposite directions).<br />One of the shocking things is to note the list of authors that have repeated this tale. To err is to be human and I doubt any book will ever be totally error free but whilst one of the names on the list of authors doesn't surprise me others do. That highlights how careful we need to be before accepting cases as evidence and the value of your blog.Anthony Muganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08195694902712869724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-75260274307263507532016-06-16T09:14:52.968-07:002016-06-16T09:14:52.968-07:00CDA -
Try this:
http://thebiggeststudy.blogspot....CDA -<br /><br />Try this:<br /><br />http://thebiggeststudy.blogspot.com/2010/04/flying-saucer-review-volume-6.htmlKRandlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333125414889883920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-23751929898564670192016-06-16T06:57:11.754-07:002016-06-16T06:57:11.754-07:00Kevin:
Which 'Flying Saucer Review' are y...Kevin:<br /><br />Which 'Flying Saucer Review' are you talking about in your reference to the case? I could not find it in the latter issues of 1960. There was an article on Fort Itaipu in Jan-Feb 1960 of FSR by a Jules Lemaitre (pseudonym for French UFOlogist/astronomer Pierre Guerin, I think), but he only copied what Fontes first wrote in APRO. He took it seriously at the time, as presumably, did everyone else.cdahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01005702597775594084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-45925195108268900842016-06-15T20:38:39.691-07:002016-06-15T20:38:39.691-07:00Phew....
As insubstantive and convoluted as it is...Phew....<br /><br />As insubstantive and convoluted as it is, let's assume the story is true.<br /><br />What do we have?<br /><br /> Something producing heat and a bizarre appearance. It doesn't take us to an explanation or source for UFOs.<br /><br />It's a foggy, fictive-like tale, but that's about it. <br /><br />RR<br /><br />RRRGrouphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04875523970644487204noreply@blogger.com