tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post1350140512058926726..comments2024-03-18T16:51:50.688-07:00Comments on A Different Perspective: Ben Games and RoswellKRandlehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06333125414889883920noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-78465648296102292532008-05-15T11:45:00.000-07:002008-05-15T11:45:00.000-07:00I have just looked at www.bibleufo.com where sever...I have just looked at www.bibleufo.com where several politicians give their views. There are some quotes from Barry Goldwater given there.<BR/>In one of them LeMay says to him that not only can Goldwater not go into the 'Blue Room' but that LeMay himself could not (even as AF Chief of Staff)! As for the alleged quote about Goldwater being court-martialed, this is not there. I do not believe any such threat was ever made. According to the Wikipedia LeMay & Goldwater were friends anyway.cdahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01005702597775594084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-56240269663077403672008-05-14T09:29:00.000-07:002008-05-14T09:29:00.000-07:00The term "blue room" usually referred to a SAGE bu...The term "blue room" usually referred to a SAGE bunker, as the inside was darkened in blue.<BR/><BR/>see this page for info on SAGE:<BR/>http://www.radomes.org/museum/sagedocs.html<BR/><BR/>It is clear, though, that Goldwater couldn't have been referring to one of these, if that was indeed the phrase he used. There were more personal interviews with him, over the years, where he clearly says he was interested in items, or material, stored there, and not just general info on UFOs.Bob Kofordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01739226809252915992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-62547170636286747352008-05-14T04:17:00.000-07:002008-05-14T04:17:00.000-07:00Kevin: The Goldwater story is quite an old one. I ...Kevin: The Goldwater story is quite an old one. I believe he wanted to see the Air Force records on UFOs. This was c. 1963, during the time that LeMay was USAF Chief of Staff. He was denied access to these records. At that time there was no talk of Roswell, so Goldwater had no knowledge of it and was not looking for UFO wreckage or bodies. The fact is that he had a long term interest in UFOs. Various citizens in Arizona (or was it New Mexico?) who were also concerned about UFOs asked him to try and get at the AF files. He may have tried more than once, but he certainly never said he was out to find bodies or physical debris; at least not to my knowledge. He did once refer, in a letter, to the 'Blue Room' but that hardly suggests anything sinister. <BR/><BR/>Do you really believe that LeMay ever told a top US Senator he would have him court-martialled if he got too inquisitive? I don't buy this. So what is the origin of this quote? Did Goldwater ever say, or write, this or are you relying on second or third hand oral testimony?<BR/><BR/>A more likely scenario is that LeMay told Goldwater that military personnel can be court-martialled for getting too involved in secret matters that don't concern them.<BR/><BR/>Goldwater ran for president in 1964, during LeMay's tenure as Chief of Staff.cdahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01005702597775594084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-57140580100330704112008-05-13T13:34:00.000-07:002008-05-13T13:34:00.000-07:00Kevin:This is exactly the problem with Roswell and...Kevin:<BR/><BR/>This is exactly the problem with Roswell and almost every other UFO episode: an important ingredient (or the "missing gun") is missing.<BR/><BR/>That one thing which might "prove" a story or sighting to be probable, even verifiable, is not to be had.<BR/><BR/>And, thus, 60+ years after the Arnold sighting, no one is any closer to a UFO denouement than they were back in 1947.<BR/><BR/>It's not just frustrating but endemic to the phenomenon which includes, besides the UFOs themselves, the participants or observers also.<BR/><BR/>You and other legitimate UFO experts deserve credit for hanging in there, but when should one stop beating a dead horse?<BR/><BR/>RRRRRGrouphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04875523970644487204noreply@blogger.com