tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post1552243776472007605..comments2024-03-19T11:13:40.642-07:00Comments on A Different Perspective: Levelland, Texas RevisitedKRandlehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06333125414889883920noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-16102664849419171232015-04-30T12:06:51.478-07:002015-04-30T12:06:51.478-07:00I recollect this incident from watching a TV news ...I recollect this incident from watching a TV news report about it in Northern California. Near when it happened. It has stuck with me because internal combustion engines in cars and trucks stopped close to the objects and re-started when it got to a distance. The TV report left me with the impression that more than a few people witnessed the event and more than a few vehicles were stopped. Pitch313https://www.blogger.com/profile/02361916461539770151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-58974675269164428942014-07-04T17:41:00.014-07:002014-07-04T17:41:00.014-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.David Rudiakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10213284910238852377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-24989231882069787912014-07-03T06:57:56.764-07:002014-07-03T06:57:56.764-07:00David and Anthony: IMO the classic example of UFO ...David and Anthony: IMO the classic example of UFO sightings coinciding with a major historical event--in fact a number of such events--was the October 1973 wave in the US. There was a major Mideast war, an oil embargo, Watergate and the Agnew resignation.starmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09884942748644499035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-29336374829645634942014-06-30T07:49:14.998-07:002014-06-30T07:49:14.998-07:00Lt Col Farrell's report includes a "corre...Lt Col Farrell's report includes a "corrected list of witnesses who reportedly observed the citing [sic] is as follows" (The names are redacted, and these descriptions in clear)<br /><br /><br />farm hand and part time barber, Levelland<br /><br />truck driver, Levelland<br /><br />Texas Highway Patrolman, Littlefield<br /><br />Texas Highway Patrolman, Littlefield<br /><br />Levelland, Texas<br /><br />Levelland, Texas<br /><br />Kermit, Texas<br /><br />Waco, Texas<br /><br />college student, Levelland<br /><br />So, there are the nine. I haven't read enough about this case to comment further.<br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />DonDonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01987893108986661582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-38357000056665199662014-06-30T04:47:44.664-07:002014-06-30T04:47:44.664-07:00Nitram
In practice I'm at an early stage in m...Nitram<br /><br />In practice I'm at an early stage in my personal study of it - so far just got to the point where I'm happy that the consensus read of certain words and phrases such as 'victims of the wreck..." and 'disc' are correct. This doesn't go beyond (or even close to) what David Rudiak has already done in great depth. A lot follows from that, but that really is digressing.<br /><br />David is your man really on that but if you would like to contact me use educationdata.solutions@virgin.net<br />Anthony Muganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09500170864254300321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-5389722473220881892014-06-29T22:50:36.802-07:002014-06-29T22:50:36.802-07:00Anthony Mugan wrote:
"Too engrossed in the R...Anthony Mugan wrote:<br /><br />"Too engrossed in the Ramey memo at the moment"<br /><br />Anthony - may I contact you by email please? If so, what email address should I use?<br /><br />Regards<br />NitramNitramhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09658903255370299035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-92138474807891339232014-06-29T21:33:54.355-07:002014-06-29T21:33:54.355-07:00Dognappings and Laika:
FSR Vol 30 #4 1985
Footno...Dognappings and Laika:<br /><br />FSR Vol 30 #4 1985<br /><br />Footnote 5 to the article The Soria Abduction Part II, by Antonio Ribera, based on two cases from Mrs Lornezen's article in Humanoids. There's lots more about dogs and ufos in that footnote.<br /><br />It's on the web.<br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />DonDonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01987893108986661582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-8967198891570505272014-06-29T19:24:55.965-07:002014-06-29T19:24:55.965-07:00CDA -
You know, if one of us tried to ull that do...CDA -<br /><br />You know, if one of us tried to ull that dognapping trick, you'd be demanding citations for it... not to mention that reports of the aliens taking samples of plants and animals were made during the 1954 wave, and there was a report of an attempted dognapping during the 1973 wave. I'm not sure what your point was, other than it was pulled for cloudy memories.KRandlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333125414889883920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-65846979631596694442014-06-29T13:10:38.360-07:002014-06-29T13:10:38.360-07:00David
I've also wondered about the same thing,...David<br />I've also wondered about the same thing, and in principle it is testable.<br />a) define a sample of major historic events, preferably by someone 'blind' to the purpose of the exercise and not closely involved in UFO research.<br />b) identify if high quality case ( eg BB unknown, Geipan type D etc) occurred within the next 24 hours of the event<br />c) pick a equal number of random dates ( for simplicity one could choose the same time and date as the historical event but one year later<br />There is geographical bias in the major data sets so perhaps define historical events as being of significance to the countries the data sets relate to.<br />One could then use the non-historic sample to set an expected frequency of occurrence. A simple Chi squared test should be sufficient to calculate significance.<br /><br />Too engrossed in the Ramey memo at the moment, but that could be an interesting little project at some point...<br />Sorry Kevin...digressing a bit I knowAnthony Muganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09500170864254300321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-35380140357802907732014-06-29T12:07:29.728-07:002014-06-29T12:07:29.728-07:00DR writes:
"My probably unprovable theory is...DR writes:<br /><br />"My probably unprovable theory is that the UFO events are messages to the powers that be that they are closely watching".<br /><br />Very soon after the Levelland sightings, and thus very soon after Sputnik 2 (carrying the dog), there were two or three strange reports of UFO 'dognappings', i.e. cases of landings and occupants where the UFOnauts reportedly tried to kidnap the dogs belonging to the witnesses. I forget the locations. <br /><br />I have never heard of such before or since, and it makes you wonder whether some sort of psychological effect was at work or whether (perish the thought) the ETs actually WERE watching our earthly activities. <br /><br />Needless to say, I tend to go along with the former. Still very strange.<br /><br />But I digress....cdahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01005702597775594084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-4236706965628786232014-06-29T09:15:49.239-07:002014-06-29T09:15:49.239-07:00Well at least CDA didn't try to explain Levell...Well at least CDA didn't try to explain Levelland with Sputnik 2. That puts him a tiny step ahead of Blue Book later trying to explain the Ravenna case with a nonexistent satellite flying overhead.<br /><br />I do find it interesting, however, that Levelland did happen within about an hour (as I recall) of Sputnik 2's launch. I've noticed it isn't unusual for some spectacular UFO event to happen within hours of some major historical event. (Of course, this could also be just spurious correlation, since major historical events are fairly common.) My probably unprovable theory is that the UFO events are messages to the powers that be that they are closely watching.<br /><br />Two examples I stumbled over date from 1950 and involve UFOs leaving huge trails behind. One was a mass sighting in Tucson, Arizona, Feb. 1, the day after Truman announced the development of the H-bomb (also when Ingrid Bergman's affair became public, the major front page news story, but that I wouldn't consider to be a major historical event). This was actually the first case mentioned by Donald Keyhoe on page 1 of his infamous 1950 book, "The Flying Saucers Are Real."<br /><br />The second one was another mass sighting June 24 over southern California and Nevada, observed by dozens of pilots and CAA control tower operators, plus hundreds of others on the ground, the object leaving a huge spiral trail. This took place within about an hour of the White House learning of North Korea invading South Korea, the start of the Korean War. The event was barely reported because of the outbreak of the war. For anyone interested in the cases:<br /><br />http://www.roswellproof.com/UFO_CalNev_1950.html<br /><br />http://www.roswellproof.com/UFO_CalNev_1950_newspapers.html<br /><br />http://www.roswellproof.com/UFO_Tucson_1950_newspapers.htmlDavid Rudiakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10213284910238852377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-68894361377919759122014-06-28T13:44:46.447-07:002014-06-28T13:44:46.447-07:00CDA -
Yeah, yeah, that's the narrative of the...CDA -<br /><br />Yeah, yeah, that's the narrative of the time, except, of course, Sputnik 1 was lauched a month earlier. And how does this explain the lies told and the false answer supplied by the military?... not to mention that the Air Force mission is to protect our airspace from foreign invaders, whatever the source of those invaders. So, we have widespread sightings in the panhandle of Texas, clear evidence of something going on and the Air Force response is to send a single NCO (from all those based in Lubbock at Reese AFB) to spend most of the day in Levelland some twenty miles away and suggest oil rigs burning off gases, thunderstorms that weren't in the are, and a variety of other things that have no relevance to the sightings.<br /><br />Sorry, CDA, but on this one, the Soviet launch of Sputnik 2 doesn't actually figure in. KRandlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333125414889883920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-50004793615166651902014-06-28T12:49:39.897-07:002014-06-28T12:49:39.897-07:00Sputnik 2, weighing several hundred pounds and car...Sputnik 2, weighing several hundred pounds and carrying a dog, was launched at virtually the same time as the Levelland sightings. This so shocked the US military (and western Europe) that it is very likely the USAF investigation of Levelland, and other sightings at the time, was severely limited due to the huge military (and public) interest in the Sputnik and a possible threat to the US.cdahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01005702597775594084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-29523184133163319572014-06-28T07:59:02.018-07:002014-06-28T07:59:02.018-07:00Official agencies, among them the FBI and the AAF/...Official agencies, among them the FBI and the AAF/USAF, have a history, in UFO cases, of altering, or attempting to alter, the accounts of witnesses and withholding or altering evidence, even 'recruiting' some witnesses to inform on others. CIC/AFOSI, particularly, did not play well with others, including "others" within the AF. They played their own game.<br /><br />ET advocates have their opinion as to "why". I don't know why, but it is a fascinating institutional activity to document.<br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />DonDonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01987893108986661582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-2499056362600799702014-06-28T03:34:38.820-07:002014-06-28T03:34:38.820-07:00This sort of spin ( from both NICAP and the AF) wi...This sort of spin ( from both NICAP and the AF) will be familiar from many different arenas. By this time the focus of Air Force activity in this field was firmly on heading off the risk of Congressional hearings and therefore on media management.<br />Investigations were conclusion driven and it would be a mistake to think that investigation in a scientific sense, or even in the more limited sense if the technical intelligence oriented work of SIGN was on the agenda by this time.<br />Such discrepancies, sophistry and playing fast and loose with the facts need to seen in the context of the wider policy agenda. The objective was to make such reports 'go away' in terms of public and, particularly, Congressional consciousness. In that sense the AF team were very effective.Anthony Muganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09500170864254300321noreply@blogger.com