tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post5841301702460537198..comments2024-03-19T11:13:40.642-07:00Comments on A Different Perspective: Air Force Character Assassination and On BullshitKRandlehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06333125414889883920noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-88102032050304474372014-07-25T07:51:40.101-07:002014-07-25T07:51:40.101-07:00The BS reflects a tiredness on the part of the USA...The BS reflects a tiredness on the part of the USAF and other officialdom. There was a period, mainly under Ruppelt, when the AF took UFOs far more seriously than they did in later years. Afterwards their small bunch of investigators got disillusioned and gradually bored with the subject. They were getting nowhere.<br /><br />What was the average time of 'UFO service' that each one served, I wonder? <br /><br />It is probably true that had Kevin worked in Blue Book, certainly during the latter years, say the 1960-69 period, he would have got just as bored.<br /><br />Then, a certain Condon committee delivered the 'coup de grace' and Ufology's death was inevitable, officially at least.cdahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01005702597775594084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-21564831443144025812014-07-24T07:51:08.878-07:002014-07-24T07:51:08.878-07:00Cases with a high public profile, or cases in whic...Cases with a high public profile, or cases in which 'topside' had made its interest known, don't fall into the category of administrative bullshit (to coin a phrase). They aren't routine.<br /><br />There are several cases that involve witness and evidence tampering. The Rhodes case is one; so is Socorro. That obviously is orders of magnitude beyond selling some bs to the press. They are better called 'operations'.<br /><br />In Socorro, the public profile is very high. But in Rhodes there is simply no public profile at all. Even Rhodes was unaware of all the effort being expended on blackening his reputation.<br /><br />So, the bullshit factor is not simply a matter of controlling public impressions about ufos. The public or the press might not be the target at all. And it may not be a matter of lies or bullshit, but something else.<br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />DonDonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01987893108986661582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-83453747080516182882014-07-24T07:21:44.193-07:002014-07-24T07:21:44.193-07:00Kevin: "Although Gregory writes about “known ...Kevin: "Although Gregory writes about “known facts,” much of it is supposition on his part, based not on what Long might have said to the “interrogators” but because Gregory knew there are no “flying saucers” and therefore anything that suggested otherwise must be wrong."<br /><br />Gregory's job was to support and promote the USAF opinion. From the end of Sign to Condon, those who were chosen to staff project saucer were adequate to that mission in that, at least at the beginning, Gregory, Fournet, Ruppelt, Hynek, Moody and the rest also believed the USAF opinion. Some changed their minds about it later. Some didn't.<br /><br />Their mission wasn't to organize and conduct full investigations, but to mark the right check box on the forms. <br /><br />"Bullshit" is an indicator of the 'attitude' of the PBB officers and men, and the screwy logic one sometimes sees in skeptics: If a lie is more plausible than the known facts, then the lie better approximates the truth.<br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />DonDonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01987893108986661582noreply@blogger.com