tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post5921165871342100756..comments2024-03-19T11:13:40.642-07:00Comments on A Different Perspective: Lake Area Paragon Conference and a Little about the Roswell SlidesKRandlehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06333125414889883920noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-13546935555498619572015-08-12T09:33:18.969-07:002015-08-12T09:33:18.969-07:00> The original theory was published as “Experie...> The original theory was published as “Experience Anomalies” in Fortean Times 243<br /><br />This seems to be a copy of the article.<br />http://ufos.homestead.com/experience.pdfTerry the Censorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07442516952399215568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-79630478433462030922015-07-31T04:53:25.598-07:002015-07-31T04:53:25.598-07:00Kevin,
It was an honor to host you and Jerry for ...Kevin,<br /><br />It was an honor to host you and Jerry for the Paracon. As always, you gave us much to think about and reminded us to always look at things from a different perspective! <br /><br />Thank you!<br />Lorna HunterLorna Hunterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04316121534459005110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-72491923483522820102015-07-25T07:05:43.180-07:002015-07-25T07:05:43.180-07:00Kevin:
I believe that the 'Maury Island guy&#...Kevin:<br /><br />I believe that the 'Maury Island guy' was one Fred Lee Crisman who with someone claiming to be a harbor patrolman, Harold Dahl, pulled off the Maury island hoax and fooled Kenneth Arnold and a good many others besides. <br /><br />Interesting that Crisman later got implicated in the JFK affair (only peripherally) to add to the legend surrounding him. The Burma/China affair was Crisman saying he was once, during WW2, nearly killed in a cave by a 'dero' directing a 'ray gun' at him! <br /><br />But I will spare you by not going further with the topic of deros, Shaver, Palmer et al. I believe that years later Crisman was himself nearly shot dead by someone from a passing car.cdahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01005702597775594084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-33919686400901349852015-07-24T18:32:39.531-07:002015-07-24T18:32:39.531-07:00@ Kevin and Paul
Well if we go with the "exp...@ Kevin and Paul<br /><br />Well if we go with the "experience anomalies" hypothesis for some reports, we could venture a wild unproven guess that aircrews at the close of WW2, regardless of nation, were briefed on potential new weapons. Did they then all project something from their minds that interacted with ambient energy to create objects to fill their unconscious concern? Same thing for ghost rockets - Europeans traumatized by Hitler's terror weapons coupled with Cold War stress project something from their minds that resembles a V1 or V2?Brian Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04201018843054563257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-47953496794276762392015-07-24T18:24:57.409-07:002015-07-24T18:24:57.409-07:00@ Kevin
Yes thanks. Forgot about those pesky litt...@ Kevin<br /><br />Yes thanks. Forgot about those pesky little postwar ghost rockets all over Northern Europe. Soviets? Allies? Hard to know. I do recall often times magnesium chunks were found and even here in the US. Odd that UFOs go from small "orbs or balls" as Foo Fighters, then to "rockets", then to "saucers". What would an alien want to do with a conventional, seemingly disposable, non explosive missile or rocket? I've studied well on the Soviet use of German rocket scientists and the reality is they kept them penned up on a guarded island letting them only review Soviet ideas. Not much rocket launching unless the Soviet scientists were doing it.<br /><br />On China-Burma - didn't know that specifically. Were Aliens interested in the conflict in all parts of the world? Mediterranean Theater too? I do recall a spurious Soviet report that a saucer was observed at the battle of Kursk in '43.Brian Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04201018843054563257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-82365434986163676462015-07-24T17:06:32.865-07:002015-07-24T17:06:32.865-07:00Brian -
You forgot the China Burma India theater ...Brian -<br /><br />You forgot the China Burma India theater of the war, important because one of the Maury Island guys served there (or so he claimed) and Ray Palmer published a letter from him prior to the Arnold sighting...<br /><br />And you forgot the Ghost Rockets of Scandinavia, which flew during 1946 that weren't limited just to Scandinavia. One of the first sightings was by an American pilot over France. I didn't mention it in this short posting, but do comment on in it the book.<br /><br />I probably didn't do a good job of explaining Jerry Clark's theory and suggest that all loon for the article in Magonia for additional insight to this.KRandlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333125414889883920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-32044631208102643772015-07-24T15:46:37.971-07:002015-07-24T15:46:37.971-07:00Brian Bell..."Regarding "experience anom...Brian Bell..."Regarding "experience anomalies", this seems to be more a psychological explanation for "paranormal" events. Are we to then assume that if we believe in, and desire to see a "UFO" that we can and do conjure up such things in our own minds..." <br /><br />Certainly ufologists like Jenny Randles and Colin Wilson seem to be going down that road with their respective "Oz factor" and "Faculty x" descriptions of altered states of consciousness that are sometimes reported by people seeing ufo's... reportedly experiencing "time-slips" and other paranormal stuff.<br /><br />Reading quite a few of Wilsons books over the years, I get the impression he doesn't believe that it's just caused by vivid imagination though. But more that paranormal fields are more closely related to each other.<br /> Jacques Vallee is another one who seems to believe (if I'm interpreting him correctly) that there's a spiritual aspect to the UFO field.Paul Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04267452625547760508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-25427049215417681412015-07-24T13:57:39.070-07:002015-07-24T13:57:39.070-07:00Some beginning thoughts - to start the conversatio...Some beginning thoughts - to start the conversation:<br /><br />@ Kevin - I agree with your premise (which to me is a clear fact), that the "modern era" of UFO's started during WWII, simoultaneously in both the European and the Asian Theaters of War, and in late 1944. Curious that after the conflict ended in May and August 1945, that no other reports (or seemingly so) surfaced until Arnold's (and those mentioned after his report but supposedly preceeding it). Why the 2-year gap?<br /><br />@ Anyone - Regarding "experience anomalies", this seems to be more a psychological explanation for "paranormal" events. Are we to then assume that if we believe in, and desire to see a "UFO" that we can and do conjure up such things in our own minds, from ambient energy and unconsious thought, which therefore cannot be seen by others or explained by science but yet seem literally real to the us, the observer?<br /><br />On Ghost hunting: Even though many people scoff at the practice and the "research" that has been conducted on ghosts (while at the same time beating the drum violently in favor of alien visitation), they miss the obvious connections. There are profound similarities between the two - UFO's and Ghosts. One of those is the presence of abnormal electromagnetic energy. Dave Hunt has stated, “the same people that run UFOs are the same people that run haunted houses.“Brian Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04201018843054563257noreply@blogger.com