tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post7902145262816820064..comments2024-03-19T11:13:40.642-07:00Comments on A Different Perspective: The Roswell Slides and MummiesKRandlehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06333125414889883920noreply@blogger.comBlogger85125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-64685146309378468182015-03-18T11:28:04.975-07:002015-03-18T11:28:04.975-07:00Glad an example of the portable glass cadaver case...Glad an example of the portable glass cadaver case was located - this can go a long way to prove that what is in the case is not necessarily a "mummy". <br /><br />By the way I have never seen a mummy in this sort of condition - they are always pretty old and rotted or so shriveled that you can clearly tell they are human mummies. The slide seems to depict something a bit "fresher" than that. <br /><br />As for fingers, people have claimed 4, 5, and 6 without much substantiation one way or the other. Four would be odd for humans, unless one was cut off intentionally - which at least is possible as many Asian cultures (Japanese for example) have criminal cults that do this - and they did back in the 1940's too.<br /><br />With that in mind, its always possible that Roswell was nothing but a Paperclip screw-up using captured Axis vehicles on balloons with a Japanese crew.<br /><br />If this is an alien, then it could be from another hypothetical crash.Brian Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04201018843054563257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-3247763366614123772015-03-17T06:08:04.101-07:002015-03-17T06:08:04.101-07:00Tony, or Adam:
"Other photos found in the c...Tony, or Adam: <br /><br /><i>"Other photos found in the chest (separate from the two humanoid slides) depict General Eisenhower in 1947 and with the couple at meetings and parties with what appear to be very well-placed people."</i><br /><br />When will we see the party photos of the Rays?Curt Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13773941506205598439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-89749707906588496362015-03-17T05:56:30.913-07:002015-03-17T05:56:30.913-07:00Curt-
Very possibly. This would certainly not be t...Curt-<br />Very possibly. This would certainly not be the first time that there has been a mistranslation or inaccurate quoting. Simply, Jaimie never said it.Anthony Bragaliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00876831804254045646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-3427485111753723592015-03-17T05:43:21.272-07:002015-03-17T05:43:21.272-07:00"Jaime Maussan: Posso dire che i rapporti pre..."Jaime Maussan: Posso dire che i rapporti preliminari dimostrano che il corpo non è mummificato. Che si tratta di un adulto e che non è un Umano. I rapporti definitivi e ufficiali saranno nelle mie mani a metà Marzo."<br /><br />Did Maussan say embalmed, and it became mummificato in translation into Italian?Curt Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13773941506205598439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-53201471166157888522015-03-17T05:28:19.551-07:002015-03-17T05:28:19.551-07:00Terry-
I have just been forwarded an email from Ja...Terry-<br />I have just been forwarded an email from Jaimie. He emailed Maurizio this morning when informed of what you have brought up:<br /><br />SUBJECT HEADER: <br />I NEVER SAID THAT<br /><br />"Maurizio-<br />When I talked with you I clearly said that the body was not a mummy of mummified."<br /><br />Anthony Bragaliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00876831804254045646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-80995295397238698902015-03-16T23:05:51.476-07:002015-03-16T23:05:51.476-07:00Mr. Braglia has repeated here many assertions abou...Mr. Braglia has repeated here many assertions about human anatomy, the Rays, and witnesses to alien bodies -- assertions he cannot possibly demonstrate. I will not repeat my complaints about his innuendo and illogic; that would be equally tiresome.<br /><br />I will simply point out a discrepancy:<br /><br />Braglia wrote, "the being shown in the slides is simply not a mummy..."<br /><br />But Jaime Maussan, interviewed by Maurizio Baiata, said, "I can say that preliminary reports show that the body is mummified."<br /><br />http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.altrogiornale.org%2Falieni-roswell-maussan-intervista-maurizio-baiata%2F&prev=search<br /><br /><br />Terry the Censorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07442516952399215568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-59685276834925399882015-03-16T05:54:30.165-07:002015-03-16T05:54:30.165-07:00Behind the scenes weirdness on the Roswell slides....Behind the scenes weirdness on the Roswell slides. My latest blog post:<br /><br />http://nickredfernfortean.blogspot.com/2015/03/roswell-slides-murky-development.htmlNick Redfernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02198543983413599418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-65958552827574193312015-03-15T20:27:43.268-07:002015-03-15T20:27:43.268-07:00"UFO Crash at Aztec" by William H.Steinm..."UFO Crash at Aztec" by William H.Steinman and Wendelle C. Stevens (1986). Look forward to checking out the Ramsey's work on this topic.D.J. Maharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12127671638150614015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-39525797786372676862015-03-15T16:55:43.528-07:002015-03-15T16:55:43.528-07:00Kurt Peters:
I was only implying that they have s...Kurt Peters:<br /><br />I was only implying that they have spent many years researching the Aztec case and published a book on the subject, fairly recently(2012). I'm sure they're not the only ones knowledgeable about the subject matter though, so if you have a better suggestion for Aztec crash related input, I await your recommendation.<br /><br />?CommanderCronushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11118630938118257930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-349637508891656232015-03-15T16:24:30.883-07:002015-03-15T16:24:30.883-07:00"Scott and Suzanne Ramsey are two of the fore..."Scott and Suzanne Ramsey are two of the foremost authors when it comes to the Aztec case"<br /><br />OK then...as I understand this, we are being assured that the Ramseys are the 'Roswell Dream Team' of Aztec?<br /><br />...help me out here, are you damning with faint praise, OR praising with faint damns?Kurt Petershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09217079871185958463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-18642763253735006762015-03-15T13:18:58.224-07:002015-03-15T13:18:58.224-07:00Nick:
Scott and Suzanne Ramsey are two of the for...Nick:<br /><br />Scott and Suzanne Ramsey are two of the foremost authors when it comes to the Aztec case. I wonder if they are following the slides controversy. Maybe they can offer some insight to this.CommanderCronushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11118630938118257930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-69583085216817967582015-03-15T11:16:30.926-07:002015-03-15T11:16:30.926-07:00Cronus:
One other thing: the Ray slides show shot...Cronus:<br /><br />One other thing: the Ray slides show shots taken at golfing tournaments. Newton was a big golfer and very skilled and won a number of golfing awards.<br /><br />Maybe that was a connection - a shared interest in golf, which kicked things off.Nick Redfernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02198543983413599418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-64821441360042411272015-03-15T11:14:53.563-07:002015-03-15T11:14:53.563-07:00Cronus:
The official documents are court papers. ...Cronus:<br /><br />The official documents are court papers. They show that Hilda Ray worked in her capacity as an attorney in a suit involving Newton in which suit was brought against him. So, she knew him pre-Roswell. Maybe she got too talkative, and Newton (well known for his cons) saw this as ripe for exploitation, told Frank Scully, and the whole Aztec UFO crash issue began. At the very least, there is an important back-story to be uncovered. Whatever the reason, I don't think it's coincidence that Hilda Ray knew Newton pre-Roswell and that both are linked to reports of small humanoids. There is something to be uncovered here - but what, I'm not sure.<br />Nick Redfernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02198543983413599418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-46088224080222899902015-03-15T11:10:38.428-07:002015-03-15T11:10:38.428-07:00So, according to Nick Redfern, there may have been...So, according to Nick Redfern, there may have been a pre-Roswell connection between Hilda Ray and Silas Newton. Could she have been his attorney?<br /><br />I wonder if Silas Newton appears in any of the Ray slides.CommanderCronushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11118630938118257930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-90331422495228761812015-03-15T09:35:08.002-07:002015-03-15T09:35:08.002-07:00A new development in the slides issue, at my blog:...A new development in the slides issue, at my blog:<br /><br />http://nickredfernfortean.blogspot.com/2015/03/too-hasty-on-roswell-slides.htmlNick Redfernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02198543983413599418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-55087440569783281332015-03-15T06:07:16.859-07:002015-03-15T06:07:16.859-07:00Curt-
There are other 'things' that are v...Curt-<br /><br />There are other 'things' that are very difficult to discern. Some think they might be errant pieces of the debris- very hard to tell.Anthony Bragaliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00876831804254045646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-28357668014356827342015-03-15T00:36:40.595-07:002015-03-15T00:36:40.595-07:00@Commandercronus: don't forget undersea civili...@Commandercronus: don't forget undersea civilisation. That's a possibility, too.Glennhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07449527096562908659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-48198784249067726322015-03-14T20:21:46.042-07:002015-03-14T20:21:46.042-07:00Paul Young,
We are discussing an image of what is ...Paul Young,<br />We are discussing an image of what is purported to be the body of either an alien or a non-human entity. While I have serious doubts that will turn out to be the case, I’m willing to entertain all possibilities for now until we have an answer. I will do so because this is a blog about UFO’s, and also because it’s fun. <br />In an earlier post on this thread I stated there are a number of scenarios where a geologist might be brought in as a special consultant in a case like this. Here are some of them:<br /><br />1. Ley lines – natural alignments of geographical locations; some have theorized that magnetic properties of ley lines function in the navigation and propulsion of UFO craft. <br /><br />2. Hollow-earth theory – some believe the origin of UFOs is not in outer space, but inside the earth. Admiral Bird is said to have found just such an opening to the inner earth on one of his flights to the North Pole. <br /><br />3. Underground civilization - The Hopi tribe in New Mexico have legends of what are called “ant people”, who came from the stars and now live underground. They are said to resemble a cross between humans and ants. Curiously, the head of the Roswell slides specimen does, in some ways, resemble that of an ant.<br /><br />4. Underground alien bases – there have been rumors of underground alien bases located in places such as Dulce, New Mexico and Area 51 in Nevada.<br /><br />5. Terrestrial humanoid species – Some believe sightings of aliens actually involve a terrestrial, but underground-dwelling species of humanoids. The military carried out numerous underground nuclear tests in the decades following WW2. If they had discovered an underground-dwelling species during the course of these experiments, I’m sure they would have been able to keep it secret.<br /><br />I’m not saying any of the above explanations are scientifically valid, but the extra-terrestrial hypothesis for the origin of gray aliens isn’t valid either. A true extraterrestrial species would not look as human as the creature in the slides. Add to this the fact that there were no reported sightings of alien bodies in 1947. Lots of debris, but no bodies. Check the news articles from the time, and you’ll see I’m right. Therefore, the existence of an alien body in the photo is not in any way dependent on it having been found lying next to a crashed UFO near Roswell in July of 1947. That is UFO lore, pure and simple. If it is an alien or non-human entity, it could have come from a lot of places, in a lot of ways. <br />So I return to your quote:<br />“Unless this alien/mummy/whatever was retrieved from IN the ground as opposed to lying ON the ground, then I can't understand why the military would sought out the input from a geologist.”<br />And so the answer is yes, it may well have come from inside the ground as opposed to lying on the ground. As for what it is, we’ll have to wait and see… but you should not exclude various possibilities (such as a geologist being invited to view an alien body) by relying on a misinterpretation/misunderstanding of the facts surrounding the Roswell incident. <br />CommanderCronushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11118630938118257930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-35479433968101498192015-03-14T18:13:31.101-07:002015-03-14T18:13:31.101-07:00..on the idea of a trained geologist being include.....on the idea of a trained geologist being included in an investigative team: what if the alien had an object with him, something that appeared to made of some type of mineral? In that case a trained geologist might be of some use....Clarencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17950970228169491036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-32802181044925914352015-03-14T16:08:09.631-07:002015-03-14T16:08:09.631-07:00Tony, can you comment on some of the other items v...Tony, can you comment on some of the other items visible in the slides? Some of the objects on and behind the glass case are identifiable, but I'm having a tough time identifying the items pictured on the far right side.Curt Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13773941506205598439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-24290508407110815442015-03-14T03:51:04.609-07:002015-03-14T03:51:04.609-07:00Burnt State;
The placard thing strikes, if this i...Burnt State;<br /><br />The placard thing strikes, if this is presumed to be an EBE, strikes me as cartoonish. What come to mind is an image of Wile E. Coyote holding an otherwise plain box with "<b>ACME EXPLOSIVES</b>" in big letters ("<b>ALIEN BODY</b>"). BTW, has anyone considered that it may not be written in English?<br /><br />There are so many things wrong with the ambiance of these slides - apart from the body.bobschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14554991056298874758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-52834798705096843222015-03-14T02:52:53.909-07:002015-03-14T02:52:53.909-07:00Hi CommanderCronus,
"Bernard Ray was a promi...Hi CommanderCronus,<br /><br />"Bernard Ray was a prominent geologist, therefore he exactly the right credentials if there was a geologic component to the situation..."<br /><br />I can't think of any scenario where a geologist (no matter how eminent within his field) would have a need to know. An anatomical biologist probably...but a geologist???<br /><br />Unless this alien/mummy/whatever was retrieved from IN the ground as opposed to lying ON the ground, then I can't understand why the military would sought out the input from a geologist.Paul Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04267452625547760508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-2276203678032292802015-03-14T00:06:30.427-07:002015-03-14T00:06:30.427-07:00Burnt State,
"Why on earth does a crashed al...Burnt State,<br /><br />"Why on earth does a crashed alien body need a placard in the first place?"<br /><br />Everyone seems to have concluded it's a placard, but that may not be true. It's definitely a sign or note of some kind. Maybe it's a set of instructions, which would be useful if this is a specimen soon to be in transit.CommanderCronushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11118630938118257930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-91212621124818128482015-03-13T04:30:35.932-07:002015-03-13T04:30:35.932-07:00b”h
I think the term “fraud” may be a bit strong....b”h<br /><br />I think the term “fraud” may be a bit strong. Dew said in his “Kodachrome” video that he makes no claim for what the slides show, and that the being is probably not out of the ordinary. But then he threw in a <i>Stairway to Heaven</i> vibe and said nevertheless that, “Oooh, it makes me wonder. . .” So others are promoting the being as an alien.<br /><br />Just a few years ago even Nick Pope exercised entrepreneurial initiative just before the London Olympics.<br /> <br />http://www.colinandrews.net/Nick_Pope-UFO-Hoax-London-Olympics-Colin_Andrews.html<br /><br />And don’t forget the dark-humor feature film <i>Fargo</i> opens with, “This is a true story” . . . all the way to the foot sticking out of the wood chipper.<br /><br />On the other hand, the poor child depicted at the following link shows how shockingly human ailments can present themselves.<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IidX4CAvbzcWilliam Strathmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01641055950393700958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-45781009667099442562015-03-12T22:03:34.641-07:002015-03-12T22:03:34.641-07:00Anybody with half a clue knows Dew is behind this ...Anybody with half a clue knows Dew is behind this fraud. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com