tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post8169009576780007241..comments2024-03-19T11:13:40.642-07:00Comments on A Different Perspective: Faked Documents - More than You'd ThinkKRandlehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06333125414889883920noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-4811615411141393622019-09-12T10:22:59.698-07:002019-09-12T10:22:59.698-07:00In reading the “Reference Report On MJ-12 (Revised...In reading the “Reference Report On MJ-12 (Revised), there is a reference to an acronym “NNMR” within section 10. Can anyone tell me what that stands for.Tom Whitmorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10701084877634672637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-57665335432673894442019-09-10T18:37:00.691-07:002019-09-10T18:37:00.691-07:00Unknown... The problem that always bugs me regardi...Unknown... <i>The problem that always bugs me regarding the MJ-12 debacle, is that whenever an MJ-12 supporter is confronted with the evidence of it being an outright hoax they usually use the same cop out line such as "well the documents might be fake but there's no doubt an MJ-12 type group exists".</i><br /><br /><br />But if the general lore is correct, ie, the ETH is correct for some UFO cases and in 1947 the US government had, for the first time, irrefutable evidence (the recovered Roswell debris) then it would make absolute sense they would get a team together of highly rated people, from various fields, in order to investigate just what the world was up against and come up with some kind of strategy, going forward.<br />In short, an MJ12 kind of group would have been a must.<br /> Every man and his dog point the finger at Bill Moore faking the documents but I personally think it more likely that it was a government disinformation exercise to help keep people off the trail of a very similarly named group. (which might also explain why Lazar had MAJ on his id card. ) <br /><br />As for Lazar, despite the really worrying sticking point with his story (at which university was he educated?) that's always been the only real hammer that his critics have used to hit him over the head with. I always wondered that maybe these top boffins had simply hit a brick wall in trying to figure out the propulsion system and decided that a fresh approach might be needed. Someone who can make a particle collider in his back yard and transform his car to be rocket powered might have been just the man they were looking for. Some of these guys from MIT and Cambridge, with PhD's dripping out their ears, might be able to work out the square root of a biscuit tin but not be able to open it.Paul Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04267452625547760508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-56598917814196098502019-09-10T04:12:07.627-07:002019-09-10T04:12:07.627-07:00Nice comment, Unknown.
David Rudiak and Anthony Br...Nice comment, Unknown.<br />David Rudiak and Anthony Bragalia, both serious believers, compared to me, have commented in favour of some of my points, have even occasionally admitted the sheer mass of hoaxing and lying that litter some famous UFO cases. But Kevin Randle, in my experience of most of his writing, has started from that level. Never denying the friggin mountain of hoaxing and extra colourful reporting that litters Ufology. Instead he has approached the reader as a researcher who knows about this only too well but would still like us to know the reasons for his grand curiosity about some of the cases. <br />Thanks Kevin, as skeptical as I am, I'm also very curious.<br />All the best mate,<br /><br />WoodyWoodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16756590870917752187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-8433265047666697762019-09-07T16:07:50.020-07:002019-09-07T16:07:50.020-07:00The problem that always bugs me regarding the MJ-1...The problem that always bugs me regarding the MJ-12 debacle, is that whenever an MJ-12 supporter is confronted with the evidence of it being an outright hoax they usually use the same cop out line such as "well the documents might be fake but there's no doubt an MJ-12 type group exists". <br /><br />I also find it funny when the Majestic flavour spreads into other areas of the field, particularly ones of dubious credibility. Take the Lazar case, for example, back when that story hit the press Lazar was touting an ID badge he claimed was from his days at the supposed S4 base. Anyone who has seen the badge will know it has "MAJ" written on it, and I find it very interesting that back when Lazar's story came out MJ-12 was still all the rage in the field a and hadn't yet been shown to be such a hoax, but fastforward to today and none of Lazar's supporters will ever mention that badge. <br /><br />Same thing with the infamous hand scanner which Lazars supporters claim he could not possibly known about unless his story was true. The only problem with that theory is that the very same hand scanner was in Close Encounters of the third kind years before Lazar came along. <br /><br />Kevin, I have heard you say in the past that the Lazar story is in your grey basket because of George Knapp's credibility. Is this still the case? I also used to hold the same opinion but after seeing how much Knapp has lost his neutrality and objectivity in that case, I no longer believe a word of it. Along with the fact that Lazar's company United Nuclear has had several government contracts in the past. We have seen how the US government treats legitimate whistleblowers in the past and I cannot believe for one second they would go into business with the guy who blew the whistle on what would have to be the most highly classified secret to date. <br /><br />Seeing George's behaviour throughout this AATIP saga has also opened my eyes. His treatment of John Greenewald has been at best disappointing and downright hypocritical. For a guy who champions journalism, he sure does hate anyone sniffing around asking questions about the subject, even when he magically pulls suspect documents out of his hat to support one of his buddies. Did he ever get back to you on the questions you asked him? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01900094618337307878noreply@blogger.com