tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post8721605223422696558..comments2024-03-19T11:13:40.642-07:00Comments on A Different Perspective: I Understand the SkepticsKRandlehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06333125414889883920noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-26967833640038544852011-06-28T15:19:46.930-07:002011-06-28T15:19:46.930-07:00eddithkeeler -
Let me say this. I know of many ci...eddithkeeler -<br /><br />Let me say this. I know of many circumstances in which scientists have offered to assist in investigations and their help has been ignored. I know that when someone asked me about the lack of copper in a multilated animal's blood and I found a half dozen terrestrial reasons for that, I heard nothing more from that investigator.<br /><br />I have been watching this since Jil Lorenzen asked me to investigate some mutilations in Minnesota in the 1970s, and I have yet to find a case that screams extraterrestrial.<br /><br />So, I'll keep looking... but I haven't found a case that takes us into outer space.KRandlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333125414889883920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-65690355979946390622011-06-18T19:24:28.402-07:002011-06-18T19:24:28.402-07:00Kevin, Before you completely dismiss all cattle m...Kevin, Before you completely dismiss all cattle mutilation cases, I recommend you read articles from the March and May 2011 issues of the MUFON journal. regarding a Feb 2009 case in Missouri. I have also heard one of the investigators speak about it at a Mufon event earlier in the year. Both of the investigators who investigated the case are retired law enforcement investigators. What makes the case compelling is that the investigators arrived on the scene within hours of the event. The animal was in the early stages of rigor when they examined it so predation was ruled out. The animal's body was completely drained of blood, yet there was no blood, no tracks and hay was still in the animal's mouth. The local veterinarian concurred with the investigator's observations at the scene that it appeared that the animal had virtually died while eating and fell over. Too many details to go into here, but there was also a UFO video provided by an independent witness who had no previous knowledge of this interesting case.edithkeelerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11995689322743125545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-28133094201387721572011-06-16T09:25:13.758-07:002011-06-16T09:25:13.758-07:00Christopher O'Brien has proven himself over an...Christopher O'Brien has proven himself over and over again, from my perceptive, to be completely unscientific and irrational about every aspect of the paranormal. He is a true believer in the very worst sense of the word.Lancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17280922104955532058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-11034026192821319662011-06-15T14:16:09.585-07:002011-06-15T14:16:09.585-07:00Col. Randle -
An excellent examination of an emot...Col. Randle -<br /><br />An excellent examination of an emotion-laden topic. Thank you.<br /><br />In the face of mounting evidence to the contrary, how long might Mr. O’Brien (and others) champion the idea that some cattle mutilations are the work of aliens? We may have an answer soon.<br /><br />I work on a team investigating Alzheimer’s Disease (AD) biochemistry. AD research is undergoing some turmoil; recent clinical trials have had remarkable success in apparently disrupting what was long thought to be the primary cause of dementia, aggregations of small proteins into insoluble lumps termed senile plaques. Ordinarily, that would seem to be a good thing.<br /> <br />For quite a few years, the central organizing hypothesis of AD research was that the senile plaques were the culprit. Get rid of them and you cure AD, or so we thought. While the senile plaques have been apparently disrupted by certain therapies, the patients continued a spiral into complete dementia and loss of mental function. Things are more complicated than we assumed.<br /><br />We are now doing some scientific soul-searching. Looking over data, examining assumptions, trying to discern what is correct and what ideas need to be changed. In short, seeking new insights, explanations and models. There is much at stake – prestige and enormous money – but nothing will be sacred. If and when a better alternative to the prevailing hypothesis emerges, the scientists will immediately begin to test it against the data.<br /> <br />Mr. O’Brien’s tests are a welcome contribution toward addressing a mystery. But how will researchers in that realm react if the data continue to run contrary to a favored explanation? There will be enough ‘wiggle room’ and doubt to continue to maintain the alien intervention hypothesis is valid, if that is what they want. And there’s the problem, that is what they want.<br /><br />AD researchers are accountable to granting agencies and their scientific peers. New hypotheses must be challenged with data and revised accordingly because we are expected to produce results (therapies). In stark contrast, those investigating mutilations seemed hard-pressed to show the hard, convincing data. No need, they can reproduce the same non-results, recycle tired fallacious arguments and sell the products just as they have done for decades.<br /><br />Tyler Kokjohncalliebuddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09982789764351754928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-47390212266340203182011-06-10T16:36:19.512-07:002011-06-10T16:36:19.512-07:00Hi Kevin, I'm writing from Las Vegas CityLife,...Hi Kevin, I'm writing from Las Vegas CityLife, a news weekly in Las Vegas, NV. I was wondering if you could talk to me for an article about UFOs. Please contact me at ktotten@lvcitylife.com or call me on my cell, 702-769-4547. Thanks! <br /><br />Kristy Totten<br />News EditorloveKRISTYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02735353784846888509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-57130681954739778112011-06-10T15:24:39.859-07:002011-06-10T15:24:39.859-07:00I think this post is quite good, and illuminating,...I think this post is quite good, and illuminating, in that it seems to express a call for a "middle path" or balanced approach to unusual or unexplained phenomena that is not dependent on prior belief or assumption, whether from the "pseudo-skeptical" perspective or "believer" viewpoint.<br /><br />It suggests that what is most important is to be as truly objective as possible, and to look at the available evidence empirically, without allowing predisposition or wishful thinking to intrude upon or affect the exploration and investigation of such esoteric and challenging phenomena. <br /><br />This seems to be what the scientific method really should be about, to gather data and evidence and subject them to honest, open, and fact-based analysis before one then derives a theory or hypothesis upon which to better understand or interpret the data. <br /><br />I too have come to conclude that cattle mutilations, alleged alien abductions, and crop circles are virtually all prosaic in nature and origins, i.e. due to natural processes or man-made, not caused by any form of advanced non-human intelligence. <br /><br />This sort of agnostic perspective and approach seems to me necessary in order not to fall into either extreme of either belief or disbelief, both of which are sorts of faith-based, non-objective ways of dealing with the unexplained. <br /><br />It's better to acknowledge that one simply may not know or be able to understand some esoteric phenomena than to claim some explanation or interpretation that is not fully supported by vetted fact, peer-review, and ongoing scientific methodology and analytical techniques, or to in turn take on an absolutist or denialist approach. <br /><br />At the same time, although I would have to say it falls into the speculative realm, some UFO cases (and the related observational report data and parallel external sensor recordings in rare cases) do suggest some form of advanced, and very different, non-human intelligence or consciousness of one or more forms has been and may still be operating within our sphere of existence, which is also an interpretation, not factually proven, but based on the evidential patterns in the historical record of the best cases (involving multiple witnesses, simultaneous instrumentation recordings, and the kind of phenomena involved which has, in some cases, displayed various forms of behavior, reactivity, and even elements of interactivity) that do not seem either random, natural, or coincidental.Steve Sawyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17716314515943305158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-12007334934093030082011-06-09T12:03:39.845-07:002011-06-09T12:03:39.845-07:00Krandle,
Calling you stupid would be bring your IQ...Krandle,<br />Calling you stupid would be bring your IQ up a notch.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07537115149934676814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-68850727217856269482011-06-09T10:10:31.699-07:002011-06-09T10:10:31.699-07:00"..build our ancient temples & monuments...."..build our ancient temples & monuments..."<br /><br />Who around here buys that? We don't need ETs to explain the pyramids. Mutilations and crop circles etc don't require know-how all that far in advance of ours. <br /><br />"You MAY need it one day to explain some remarkable future, at present, unimaginable event."<br /><br />Considering the vastness of interstellar distances, any report of an unidentified, apparently alien craft is virtually "unimaginable," as is travel without jets or propellers, or reported nonverbal communication.<br /><br />"But I predict that day is a long way off yet."<br /><br />Why should it be? There are plenty of older stars and exoplanets in the galaxy. If by a "long way off" you mean a thousand years, or a million, that's nothing on a Universal time scale. Alien races have already had EONS to progress. Assuming a "long way off" is for those too intimidated by the thought they are HERE NOW.starmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09884942748644499035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-12119899332993480612011-06-09T06:07:09.044-07:002011-06-09T06:07:09.044-07:00What about crop circles? Just like the precision o...What about crop circles? Just like the precision of the cattle mutilations, these cannot be made on earth because no person(s) have the ability to perform such intricate and complex designs in a short period of 4 to 5 hours in a summer night. At least that is the view of the ET brigade. <br /><br />If we take the ET thesis seriously, the ETs have the ability to do literally anything: make crop circles, abduct humans and interbreed with them, transmit their thoughts to the select few, mutilate our livestock, read our minds, build our ancient temples & monuments and of course, occasionally, crash their craft in remote desert places.<br /><br />ETs are an obvious answer to anything and everything thus far unexplained. Menzel suggested this decades ago.<br /><br />You say you understand the skeptics. There are degrees of skepticism, just as there are degrees of ETH believerism. No, you do not need ET to explain any mutilation, any crop circle or any abduction. Nor do you need it to explain Roswell.<br /><br />You MAY need it one day to explain some remarkable future, at present unimaginable, event. But I predict that day is a long way off yet.cdahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01005702597775594084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-10964107937670533922011-06-09T05:46:57.130-07:002011-06-09T05:46:57.130-07:00Agreed, what matters is: can humans or natural pro...Agreed, what matters is: can humans or natural processes explain it or not? If investigators with various instruments can't duplicate precise cuts, that says something...Decomposition MIGHT but was there time for it in all cases where precise cuts were noted?starmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09884942748644499035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-2727360044068723912011-06-08T22:02:32.099-07:002011-06-08T22:02:32.099-07:00You make a lot of good sense, but I think this sta...You make a lot of good sense, but I think this statement is wrongheaded:<br /><br />"But, in the end, no one could explain why the aliens were doing it. What was the motivation? Why not just take the whole animal and not leave the remains?"<br /><br />Not being able to understand a motivation is no reason to posit that there isn't one. <i>Especially</i> if we're talking about (possible) aliens here..dbdonlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17801496743216052338noreply@blogger.com