tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post8812097460890008983..comments2024-03-19T11:13:40.642-07:00Comments on A Different Perspective: The Roswell Slides - Who Got the Five Grand?KRandlehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06333125414889883920noreply@blogger.comBlogger66125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-90279279990505967682016-10-31T15:49:58.663-07:002016-10-31T15:49:58.663-07:00marea roja -
It has been established that the ima...marea roja -<br /><br />It has been established that the image on the slide is a Native American child and not an alien creature. The documentation for this conclusion is overwhelming and goes back to the discovery of the child in the late 19th century.<br /><br />It is also somewhat unscientific to suggest an alternative conclusive without benefit of examining the remains. Everyone at this late date is dealing with the photographic evidence and not the physical remains. Given the documentation, given the location where the photographs were taken, given the placard on the display, it is clear that it is not an alien creature. There really is nothing more to be said about it.KRandlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333125414889883920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-11887306332639268602016-10-30T17:37:42.687-07:002016-10-30T17:37:42.687-07:00Estudio comparativo entre espécimenes .....
http:...Estudio comparativo entre espécimenes .....<br /><br />http://humanoidemacrocefalo69.tumblr.commarea rojahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08537131158002829461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-52065490924511324212016-10-30T17:36:11.860-07:002016-10-30T17:36:11.860-07:00Descripción de un especimen con carácteristicas de...Descripción de un especimen con carácteristicas de un reptil.......<br /><br />http://www.tercermilenio.tv/index.php/descripcion-de-un-especimenmarea rojahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08537131158002829461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-46196967339101312392016-08-27T13:57:45.899-07:002016-08-27T13:57:45.899-07:00My god, why carry on with the BS? The real story i...My god, why carry on with the BS? The real story is, you saw an opportunity for a cash grab, ignored everyone who told you "that looks just like a mummy to me!" and focused on the tiny little minority that thought for some reason its an alien, and whisked off to Mexico for reasons of convenience, and put on a performance where you knew the slide had to be BLUED OUT because it wasn't convincing enough alone as it stood. Then when the placard was read in about 2 seconds on the internet you couldn't take the page down quick enough and do a runner with whatever cash was earned because you didn't have the integrity to man up and give the money back to the paying audience who were scammed. Then, a book comes out with your name in it and your ego gets the better of you because you simply cannot stand someone else making money off YOU, and come out of your hidey hole to defend yourself and do what the others have done, Uh .. wasn't me! etc etc.<br /><br />Why not man up and just tell the truth : "yep tried to make a buck, failed, joke's on me, time to move on." Because I guess very few would do that, very few indeed.TheDimovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15882471911353036958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-70111972411415281132016-08-27T05:36:23.972-07:002016-08-27T05:36:23.972-07:00Mr Dew, you should have gone to Specsavers. Your f...Mr Dew, you should have gone to Specsavers. Your finishing comment speaks volumes. Please remember this old saying Mr Dew: Bullshit, Baffles Brains. Rodney Howarth, Burnley, Lancashire.Philip Mantlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14361065851265716875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-54525870798396450162016-08-27T05:30:04.284-07:002016-08-27T05:30:04.284-07:00Mr Dew, please answer this one simple question: Wh...Mr Dew, please answer this one simple question: When did you look at the slides and not see a mummy ?<br /><br />To be honest Mr Dew, you sound just like Ray Santilli.Philip Mantlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14361065851265716875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-7193878377111510892016-08-27T00:42:16.172-07:002016-08-27T00:42:16.172-07:00Adam wrote: I also believed, and still believe, th...Adam wrote: <i>I also believed, and still believe, that the slides were wrapped and hidden. I couldn't understand why Hilda would have hidden them.</i><br /><br />Slides often were projected during family meetings, because you must install the screen, the projector. So taking time and place, not as us today when you share by the net, by your phone. Such family meetings when you projected your slides of vacations, trips around the USA or world, etc. included children. Such slides may be "chocking" for them and maybe a reason they were appart (as hidden) the others of the same "roll". (?)<br /><br />You wrote you never made any claim about the slides, but you called it the "Roswell slides" in your own site: <br /><br />http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-QOgY0NbXyEo/VR-wjxwEQ0I/AAAAAAAABoY/n89DEJMDWJI/s1600/Dewlies.jpg<br /><br />http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bhogJJtaHHk/VR-zb2gzVaI/AAAAAAAABos/EBHu9DcA0co/s1600/adam%2Bdew%2Blies2.jpg<br /><br />http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fMAXurg25Ls/VSIu51Q6Y7I/AAAAAAAABpA/PQK1RJWx9DE/s1600/0000%2Bcode%2Bsource.jpg<br /><br />Source: http://skepticversustheflyingsaucers.blogspot.fr/2015/03/the-roswell-slides-saga-claims-versus.html<br /><br />Anyway, I dont buy the pale excuses or accusations claimed by Bragalia, Schmitt and Carey.<br />They reject the fault to Adam in order to save the house. Dont be victim of this, dear readers.<br /><br />Adam sent them good rezolution of the slide and placard. For example, when Bragalia posted "his" placard in Rich Reynolds blog and accusating us to have cheated, we deblurred the text with his own material he posted/shared. David Rudiak claimed he have the same rez of the ones we now have or revealed after. Etc. It is lies by them as usual.<br /><br />Or after the conference and us deblurring, we have never seen them sharing the material they were sent by Adam to demonstrate this claim Adam sent them bad material or "WTF, it is not the same rez!" <br /><br />But the best lie or joke by them is one of them claiming "if I had seen the second slide, I had been sure it was in a museum"... as if the two slides were so different! Pathetic :(<br /><br />Best regards,<br /><br />GillesGilles Fernandezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17128214022795566635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-15858156924333192412016-08-26T14:00:15.965-07:002016-08-26T14:00:15.965-07:00Based on the dimensions of the body (36-48 inches)...Based on the dimensions of the body (36-48 inches) the image we had:<br />http://www.theblackvault.com/casefiles/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/11146624_980724315293326_1892240621233792661_o.jpg<br />Looked more like this:<br />http://www.paradoxbrown.com/graylong2.jpg<br />Than this:<br />http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/smithsonianmummy.jpg<br /><br />I also believed, and still believe, that the slides were wrapped and hidden. I couldn't understand why Hilda would have hidden them. Many see the images in a vacuum. I did not. <br /><br />Again, I never made any claims. I wanted to find out what was in the slides. I'm sorry I didn't live up to your standards Kevin. <br />I'm not sorry I didn't live up to Philip Mantle's standards. In fact, it gives me some perverse pleasure. I hope I've damaged UFOlogy enough for you Philip that you can get a prime speaking spot at the next UFO Congress. I wish you luck restoring it to it's pre-slides level of decorum and sophistication. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09581402634179973670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-25834896619865179642016-08-26T12:06:23.382-07:002016-08-26T12:06:23.382-07:00Adam -
And yet, without having seen the slides an...Adam -<br /><br />And yet, without having seen the slides and believing that the dating of them was accurate, I was able to deduce that this was a mummy. I asked Tom Carey, in December 2014, if this wasn't a mummy. It was the only thing that I could think of that would explain how two civilians with no actual connection to the Eisenhowers or the federal government could have been allowed to see, and photograph, something that would have been highly classified. And it seems that many scientists, when show the whole picture believed that it was mummified human remains.<br /><br />But the question remains... Why did you think it was non human?KRandlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333125414889883920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-16480129069892700022016-08-26T10:04:09.432-07:002016-08-26T10:04:09.432-07:00I think I did explain it. I had some slides. I d...I think I did explain it. I had some slides. I didn't think the body in the slides looked human. The peripheral story around the slides fascinated me. The slides pulled me into a world of which I had zero previous interest or knowledge. I am not an anthropologist. I am not a scientist. I never claimed to be leading an investigation. I said it over and over and over again... I stand by the trailer of the documentary. I tried to make my position crystal clear. I said "I make not claims as to what exactly is in these two slides" and "It's probably nothing, but maybe, just maybe it's something."<br /><br />After 3 years with the slides, I made the determination that the slides would likely remain a mystery. So when Tom and Don introduced me to Jaime, we agreed to go to Mexico City because it offered an incredible stage to release the slides. Project your own issues and conspiracy theories onto me if you like. <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09581402634179973670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-81999258694990866452016-08-26T01:50:06.209-07:002016-08-26T01:50:06.209-07:00Adam Dew, shame on you.Adam Dew, shame on you.Philip Mantlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14361065851265716875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-7983738500482903902016-08-21T16:40:57.372-07:002016-08-21T16:40:57.372-07:00> I don't recall ever saying anything that ...> I don't recall ever saying anything that wasn't true. <br /><br />It is a curious thing. Blameless Adam Dew presided over an "investigation" that was marked by gross research incompetence and culminated in a cash grab hosted by a known UFO fraudster, Jaime Maussan.<br /><br />But how can that be? For Adam Dew is an honourable man. He says so himself!<br /><br />I think I see a way forward. Let us prevail upon Adam Dew to summon his absolute powers of personal integrity to explain how he was both in charge of AND entirely not responsible for the slides fiasco.<br /><br />No doubt, Adam will be able to explain this seeming paradox, and we will all be moved to apologise for ever doubting him.Terry the Censorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07442516952399215568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-52492865356971719272016-08-21T16:26:38.002-07:002016-08-21T16:26:38.002-07:00If serious, then Adam Dew must be naïve and unbeli...If serious, then Adam Dew must be naïve and <i>unbelievably</i> credulous since he writes,<br /><br />"...it looked like what pop culture has trained us to think and alien might look like."<br /><br />No, it doesn't, not at all. It looks like nothing but exactly what it is, a human child mummy.<br /><br />And even if it did resemble a generic gray alien that wouldn't make it one. That's a Fiction! <br /><br />"If only the truth could be so obvious to us poor dumb rocks out here as it is to Philip Mantle" and everyone else with a lick of sense.<br /><br />It was and is. And enough people certainly told you so from the very beginning and it should have ended right there. But no, you insisted on promoting the slides as something extraordinary when one moment wasted on this nonsense was one too many.<br /><br />The slides found-object inanity was the stupidest entry in the catalogue of "UFO" trash since the ridiculous "face on Mars" madness. And that's saying a lot. That one who promoted this utter nonsense would even show his face, much less continue to rationalize his actions and blame others, exposes the true motivation for this obvious fraud and total nonissue.<br /><br />And now we're going to be treated to a documentary? How can you make a documentary about nothing? Dew is neither naïve or credulous, just a shameless huckster.zoamchomskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16519698426338891542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-50845000449406444242016-08-21T13:56:46.905-07:002016-08-21T13:56:46.905-07:00Never said Dew was "snowy white". He be...Never said Dew was "snowy white". He bears responsibility for everything he said and did. I just don't want to see the other guilty parties make him the "fall guy" by lying about what transpired.Tim Printyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06115389684481839803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-75298960780301451722016-08-21T13:50:47.290-07:002016-08-21T13:50:47.290-07:00Tim -
I'm well aware of that problem and that...Tim -<br /><br />I'm well aware of that problem and that one point of view will be to reject everything said by Carey, Schmitt and Bragalia... but that doesn't mean Dew is snowy white in this whole fiasco. Sorting it out probably will show that each is arguing in his own self-interest and that the truth will sometimes get lost in that.KRandlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333125414889883920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-45860325381698584092016-08-21T13:46:22.623-07:002016-08-21T13:46:22.623-07:00Kevin,
I am not sure one can really trust anythin...Kevin, <br />I am not sure one can really trust anything said by the participants at this point with out good evidence. They have every reason to lie about their participation in the event at this point and pin the blame on Dew if you let them. Tim Printyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06115389684481839803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-41217751457354781552016-08-21T12:29:47.673-07:002016-08-21T12:29:47.673-07:00Lance -
The take away here should be that we don&...Lance -<br /><br />The take away here should be that we don't hide the investigation but open it up to transparency. Yes, I know the come back will be but you guys did it with the Ramey Memo, and my response is that we didn't give out information in drips and drabs. We published everything we had as soon as we had it nailed down and that the copyright issues had been ironed out. There are no hidden pieces there and we're not holding a huge event to announce the results. Transparency would have stopped the Roswell Slides train long before it left the station. Good lord, the whole frame photograph would have caused lots of questions...<br /><br />Tim -<br /><br />I will say it again. There is enough blame in this for all parties. Tom Carey was convinced early on that the slides showed the Roswell alien and he has made that point. He has said that the American anthropologists he attempted to interview on this wanted no part of it... and given the circumstances, I'm not overly surprised. I will add that when Philip Mantle approached a number of experts with a high res scan, they all said it was a mummy, they just didn't know where it came from precisely... I don't know when that was available because according to Dew, he handed those out in the beginning, but according to others, the first time they saw the high res scan was in Mexico City. I do believe there is a way to resolve this and I'm attempting to do so.<br /><br />I have been communicating, in the last few days, with a number of participants in the Great Slide Fiasco and haven't gotten all the responses yet, but it seems that there are some issues that have not been resolved. I have asked Tony where the slide code information came from and have yet to receive a response (don't read a lot into that yet because it was only a couple hours ago that I asked that specific question).<br /><br />I have, in the past, suggested that the others made multiple mistakes in all of this. At the moment, Dew challenged me to produce instances where his information is inaccurate... If I accept the statements by several others, Dew was manipulating the situation for his benefit and please note he is on the same page as all the others... "I believed the experts so it's not my fault." (And to prevent the question of where he or the others said these precise words, that is a paraphrase put into quotes so that it is clear that I wasn't saying that).KRandlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333125414889883920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-58860293865166353472016-08-21T11:34:03.586-07:002016-08-21T11:34:03.586-07:00Kevin,
Are you stating that Dew was the one that c...Kevin,<br />Are you stating that Dew was the one that came up with the 1947 date for the slides and not Bragalia? It was my impression that Bragalia got Shanebrook to look at the slide in the first place. Bragalia was the one promoting the idea that the date was 1947 and not Dew. As I pointed out before, he wrote this on your blog. http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2015/02/roswell-slides-update.html<br />In that posting, he stated HE was the one who found "the talent" and that the "expert"(Shanebrook) had concluded the date was 1947. Bragalia was pushing this date of manufacture (based on a non-existent edge code) and not Dew. I have no recollection or record of Dew stating it was 1947. If you do, then feel free to produce that evidence.<br />Again, I am not defending Dew but I you look like you are trying to blame everything on him. Are you trying to say that Schmitt, Carey, and Bragalia were just duped by Dew? By only going after Dew, you are backing their claim that they were innocent in all of this. Nothing can be further from the truth and your readers need to understand this because I see several of them doing the same thing.Tim Printyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06115389684481839803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-23380480180512918712016-08-21T00:59:17.666-07:002016-08-21T00:59:17.666-07:00It really is that simple a question Mr Dew as Kev,...It really is that simple a question Mr Dew as Kev, myself and others have pointed out. The fact that you have refused to answer it speaks volumes.Philip Mantlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14361065851265716875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-27175787022858209812016-08-20T20:04:00.960-07:002016-08-20T20:04:00.960-07:00Lance argumentatively wrote:
"So, is your ta...Lance argumentatively wrote:<br /><br />"So, is your takeaway that if someone has an unusual possibly UFO-related photo that the very last people they should go to for advice are UFO researchers? Can't say I disagree!"<br /><br />Good one Lance... you know as well as anybody that the photo was "not possibly UFO related".<br /><br />If this photo had been shown to someone else "in the group" then this whole embarrassment could have been avoided...<br /><br />Regards<br />Nitram<br />Nitramhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09658903255370299035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-9367280312626575092016-08-20T15:55:03.213-07:002016-08-20T15:55:03.213-07:00I do agree with the point Lance makes, that the wh...I do agree with the point Lance makes, that the whole debacle has shown just how quickly and easily many of the UFO researchers will sell out when there are dollars to be made. Those with integrity were smart enough to stand back and watch the whole thing unfold. <br /><br />So I think, ultimately, this will prove to be a boon for ufology - or at least I hope it will. But it shows very clearly that policing is virtually up to the researchers themselves, I still find it remarkable how quickly Schmitt and Carey released a book after the whole slides thing, as if to smugly say "See folks? We can still make a buck on this whole UFO thing, who are the fools but you?", and just blame everyone but themselves, that really left me cold. Not a single man among the the BeWitness crew to be honest.TheDimovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15882471911353036958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-15757202420320211992016-08-20T15:02:47.080-07:002016-08-20T15:02:47.080-07:00Hi Kevin,
So, is your takeaway that if someone ha...Hi Kevin,<br /><br />So, is your takeaway that if someone has an unusual possibly UFO-related photo that the very last people they should go to for advice are UFO researchers? Can't say I disagree!<br /><br />The UFO "investigators" showed themselves to be laughably biased. This includes Carey, Schmitt, Rudiak, Lempke, Dolan,, etc. etc. EVERY UFO "investigator" Dew contacted was unable to dismiss these silly photos as Philip suggests they should have.<br /><br />But did this debacle change anything about how UFO researchers do their work? <br /><br />HAH!<br /><br />Lance<br />Lancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17280922104955532058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-65241316287270753692016-08-20T13:54:49.200-07:002016-08-20T13:54:49.200-07:00Adam -
What made you think that the image was any...Adam -<br /><br />What made you think that the image was anything other than what it was? Why is it you chased down Roswell researchers? What happened to the rest of the pictures on that roll of film? Since you had access, or Joe Beason had access, why didn't you look at the pictures from the rest of that roll... you had the frame numbers and you could have figured out where they fit in... that should have given you a clue to the identity.<br /><br />You misidentified Benavides as a lieutenant and then suggested that Don or Tom told you that but they knew better, so that information had to come from somewhere else.<br /><br />You said that Hilda Ray and Mamie Eisenhower were friends (which someone told you) and that was how they got to see the alien creature (except of course it wasn't) but it wouldn't have mattered if they had been BFFs because General Eisenhower would have never breached security in that fashion. He had fired general officers for minor breaches of security.<br /><br />Where did Tony get the idea that the slide film contained the code for 1947 if not indirectly from you?<br /><br />You mentioned all these experts, anthropologists and archaeologists, who suggested there was something strange about the image, yet when the high res scan was shown to a wide variety of experts, they all said it looked like a mummy. Did you supply those same high res scans in full frame to Tom and Don? Did you ever project the slide on a screen and say, "Damn, that's a museum?"<br /><br />Everyone involved in this fiasco is blaming everyone else and all are saying "I just relied on what the experts told me." It seems however, that all those consulted outside of your group were able to identify the image accurately and easily.<br /><br />You were told that the Adobe expert was one of the best in the country... then how was it that the placard was deblurred within hours of a high res scan becoming available? Wouldn't some transparency (pun intended) have prevented this fiasco... or was that the point of the documentary... to show how credulous UFO/Roswell researchers were?<br /><br />But it all really does come down to the initial question... just why in the hell did you and Joe decide that the image was something that was of non terrestrial origin? And how good could your experts have been if they couldn't recognize the image for what it was when nearly everyone else could?KRandlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333125414889883920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-42971781524553193322016-08-20T12:50:39.496-07:002016-08-20T12:50:39.496-07:00Philip:
A follow-up to your question and the post...Philip:<br /><br />A follow-up to your question and the post by Brian Bell:<br /><br />How is it that certain presumed intelligent people can look at a slide (or photo) and NOT see the depicted 'being' for what it was (i.e. a mummy), and yet manage to see it for what it clearly was not (i.e. an ET being), particularly when the latter is non-existent and therefore anthropologists have no idea what it would look like?cdahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01005702597775594084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11558306.post-34684590292979340562016-08-20T11:35:03.553-07:002016-08-20T11:35:03.553-07:00You will notice that Adam Dew is not capable of an...You will notice that Adam Dew is not capable of answering my one simple question. When you look at the slides how did you Mr dew not see a mummy ? Philip Mantlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14361065851265716875noreply@blogger.com