When
I interviewed Jan Harzan recently, I expressed my concern about the direction
of MUFON and some of those invited to make presentations at the Symposium. I
thought that some of the speakers were less than credible, thinking
specifically about one man who seemed to claim to some sort of time travel
before I realized there were two. Harzan’s response was that he wanted to give
the membership a chance to hear the tales and decide for themselves if they
believed them or not. The thinking here, I believe, was present an interesting
program that provided data on the alleged secret space program, even if the
evidence of such a thing didn’t exist, other than some testimony from some rather
dubious sources. Besides, it would draw in more paying attendees but really has
little to do with UFO research.
One
of those speaking is Corey Goode, whose bio seemed to be more like that of
Ender Wiggin. For those of you who don’t read science fiction, Ender Wiggin was
a six-year-old boy who was recruited into the International [Space] Fleet in
the fight against the Buggers, an alien race that had invaded the Solar System,
twice. The fight would be taken to them, on other planets in other star systems.
Ender was a genus at strategy and tactics and something of an empath, though
that it never actually spelled out in the book. Instead, at the moment he comes
to love his enemy, that is the moment that he destroys them… though by the end
of the book, he is the one who saves that alien race from extermination. I
mention this because of some of the parallels that I see among the speakers at
the Symposium.
According
to the bio of Goode, found at the MUFON website, under Symposium and Speakers,
we learn:
Identified as an intuitive empath (IE), Corey Goode
was recruited into Military Special Access Programs (SAP) at the age of 6. This
program groomed Corey to be drafted into a Secret Space Program called “Solar
Warden” in 1986. For the next 20 years Corey was assigned to a research vessel
as well as being pulled into multiple other related assignments. This was
designated as a “20 & Back” assignment which involved age regression (via
Pharmaceutical means) as well as time regressed to the point of beginning
service.
In 2015 Corey Goode was featured on a ground
breaking new series on Gaia TV called “Cosmic Disclosure”. Corey has been
sharing his experiences in these SAP’s in what has now become 7 seasons of
Cosmic Disclosure.
I’m sorry but I don’t believe any of this except
maybe that his name is Corey Goode. He has no evidence, or maybe I should say
no reputable evidence, that any of this is true. I can’t file FOIA, I can’t see
the headquarters or the office. Nor do I believe that the Navy had built “space
carriers,” which if true would have required a crew of hundreds. Why are there
no others talking about this? Obviously there has been no repercussions for
Goode violating his oath. He hasn’t been prosecuted for it which show have
inspired other “whistleblowers,” though none have come forward.
Andrew Basiago : Time traveler. |
Even worse, if possible, is the tale told by Andrew
Basiago, an attorney who claims that he, too, as a child was involved in some
strange things including time travel, “jumping” to Mars through some sort of
apparatus that might have been controlled by the CIA. According to him:
His talk will include the origins of Project Mars
of the 1980s in Project Pegasus of the1970s; the program's goals; the training
seminar; the identity of the young Americans who were the speaker's fellow
trainees; NASA's involvement in selecting the jumpers; the desired traits of those
to go off-planet; the origin, structure, function, and location of the jump
rooms; what the CIA's threat assessment about the Martian civilization revealed
about the true history of US probes to Mars; the dangers faced by jumpers; the
speaker's acclimation jumps, exploratory jumps, and ultimate mission; the
characteristics of three Martian humanoids; the identity and testimony of seven
jump room whistle blowers; and the involvement of Buzz Aldrin, Barack Obama;
Richard Nixon, Howard Hughes, Stansfield Turner and Ross Perot. Attention will
be given to President Obama's disinformation ploys concealing his participation
in the program; whether the jumps were made to Mars or a “synthetic quantum
evironment” (sic) in time-space; and the politics in exopolitics that have
prevented the Mars jump room story from being given the standing in Ufology
that it deserves and that the speaker's work has earned.
And no, I don’t believe this tale either. There is
no credible evidence for this. But like Goode, he attracts a crowd with his
preposterous tales of Martian humanoids and predators that are so fierce that
his superiors gave him a cyanide capsule to commit suicide if trapped rather
than a large caliber firearm to protect himself.
But Harzan said that he wanted to give the MUFON membership
the opportunity to listen and decide what they wanted to believe. Fair enough…
then why is the same courtesy not extended to Michael Horn, who believes that
Billy Meier has been in contact with space aliens? Shouldn’t he be allowed to
present his tale to the membership so that they can decide for themselves?
The real point, I suppose, is that if we expect to
earn the respect of various other groups (journalists and scientists just to
name two), we have to be careful in what we accept as reality. We can’t believe
something because we want to believe it, especially when it is so outrageous.
The driving force should not be a potential to make money off the claim. While
it might be nice to give a platform for some of those with extreme views, we
ought to be sure that their views are based in our shared reality and not in science
fiction. Unfortunately, that is where we now find ourselves because it really
is all about the money.
I am sure I could come up with more than a few good jokes about these individuals. However, I also have a sense of sadness for them as well for their lacking sense of reality.
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ReplyDeleteSorry but MUFON has lost all credibility, if it ever had any. They are slowly turning into a circus show and likely have been for some time. There is a saying that I have heard over the years - 'If they say it's not about the money, it's about the money'.
Just another fine example of why UFO's are laughed at by the main stream. Very frustrating.
I try hard to remain polite but some things are just too much.
ReplyDeleteWhat an bunch of delusional fruitcakes and charlatans. Unfortunately this is an example (admittedly an extreme one) of a wider problem in society in which large proportions of the population seem very gullible to being manipulated all too easily.
By presenting this characters, MUFON is endorsing them in the public's mind. MUFON has never been a clearinghouse for every person who entered ufology with a tall tale. Such people belong on Coast to Coast Radio or other similar internet podcasts. Should NASA sponsor speakers from the Flat Earth Society in order to "let people make up their own minds"? MUFON was supposedly a scientific organization for the study of UFOs. If MUFON simply wants to put on a good show to entice a large crowd, why not just offer Free Beer and feature strippers on loan from the Las Vegas strip? Perhaps they could be painted green and wear little antennas on their heads?
ReplyDeleteWe all know what happens when you're captured by the "Borg. What worries me is what the "Buggers" might do if they getta hold of ya!!!
ReplyDeleteSensationalism sells tickets!
ReplyDeleteI was a former Section State Director for MUFON many years ago. I left MUFON because it wanted to start allowing bizarre practices as channeling planets, as well as more concentration of basic weirdness into the organization. A former UTAH State Director told me that alien abduction was the number one problem on earth and that all countries should be taking it seriously.
ReplyDeleteThe monthly publication to international members took a nose dive. No one wanted to pay the $60.00 plus fee for a non-scientific look at UFO's. I left shortly after because the organization was well in to decline.
I never regretted leaving MUFON. It's just sad what has happened to it.
"...Corey Goode was recruited into Military Special Access Programs (SAP) at the age of 6...."
ReplyDeleteIt must have been a Really Special Access Program to recruit a 6 year old:) Maybe he was born in a test tube.
"...the politics in exopolitics that have prevented the Mars jump room story from being given the standing in Ufology that it deserves and that the speaker's work has earned...."
I'd say he's getting all the "standing in Ufology" that he deserves, from an organization that is incapable of granting 'standing' to anyone not part of the nutter community.
When will MUFON come up with an official membership card for the Nutcase Brigade?
@ArizonaWill,
"... Should NASA sponsor speakers from the Flat Earth Society in order to "let people make up their own minds"?..."
No, but maybe MUFON should.
The situation is hopeless, but not serious.
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I haven't been to any of the conventions before so forgive me for asking but, do people honestly believe any of this? It can be interesting to waste some time and play "what if?" but who takes it seriously?
ReplyDeleteWe stopped being MUFON subscribers when our local organizer began to hold conferences dedicated to "all things fringe," with the participation and support of other MUFON officials - and clearly brought the fringe to local meetings and linked it to MUFON in general. We went to a conference to meet a particular speaker, but also were treated to Basiago and Sean David Morton. We went to a MUFON symposium but Hoagland was as sciency as it got.
ReplyDeleteAll of that can be strangely entertaining but at some point self-respect (and the cost of tickets) kicked in. As to who takes it seriously - there are those who do. Some of them seem to be MUFON (or IUFOC / Contact in the Desert) officials - or else the various achievement awards given at the conferences are even more hypocritical than I suspected.
Goode and Basiago are just a tip of the iceberg at the upcoming symposium. But if it is a matter of giving people a chance to make up their own minds, I look forward to skeptics and critical thinkers being included.
Kevin,
ReplyDeleteAfter reading the comments, MUFON clearly lacks leadership, focus and direction. If you took over the organization, how would you restructure it? Or, is it even worth trying to save the brand?
WEll i have experience with time travel and teleportation myself as i tried to learn to do it at some point and discovered that partial effect is possible so why they couldnt have amplified it with electronics to make the effect complete especially if you look at mountauk survivors descriptions especially preston nichols also then you might not be too far off with this .
ReplyDeleteCorey Goode was featured on last night's Ancient Aliens episode which treated the MJ-12 papers as the real deal. I guess ufology will never be taken seriously until the subject itself dies down so the profiteering can stop.
ReplyDeleteAlso, there was a two hour special about UFOs which followed that was produced by MUFON. It was hard to take seriously when they prominently featured people like John Ventre. It's too bad as there were actually a couple of interesting cases featured I had never heard of before.
What's the old axiom....Keep an open mind, but not so open that your brain falls out.
ReplyDeleteThe people who make money off these idiotic lies are borderline criminal in my view. The gullible public who believe this nonsense aren't borderline anything, they're 100% totally insane.
Corey Goode is also the guy who talks to the blue bird aliens as a "Rotating Earth Delegate in a ET Super Federation Council". That's really all you need to know about Corey Goode.
There is one, singularly authentic extraterrestrial contact case. Billy Meier's contacts are still ongoing, now spanning more than 75 years.
ReplyDeleteYes, when informed about it, usually people either don't know anything about it, or have fallen for the skeptical attacks, all of which I've long defeated.
Because I represent the Meier case, and I am also one of over 125 eyewitnesses, I modestly refer to myself as the world's leading expert on UFOs. While this may bother some people, I'm always open to discuss the case, its evidence, voluminous prophetically accurate information, etc.
Re Corey Goode, how is it that anyone would take the claims of an...admitted mind-control experiment seriously?
Michael,
ReplyDeleteYou are not the "World's leading expert on UFO's." How you came to this conclusion is beyond unusual. The Meier case is nothing more than fraud. And laughable fraud at that.
This will be my last post on the subject so go ahead and rant and rave on Michael about the fraudulent case of Billy Meier. It's nothing but a cult like following and it is one of the reasons why the study of UFO's is not taken seriously by many.
ReplyDeleteHere you are in the UFO Hall of Shame and I could not have said it better myself:
http://www.ufowatchdog.com/michael_horn.htm
All -
ReplyDeleteThis post was about some of those invited to speak at the next MUFON Symposium and not an avenue to promote a contactee case that I believe to be untrue. Let's take it back to that discussion.
Michael -
ReplyDeleteWell, same to you... I don't care about your beliefs, only that after all these years there had been no acceptable evidence of contact...
Didn't ban that discussion from the blog, only from these particular discussions. I am not going to allow you to hijack the blog and turn it into a forum from your personal beliefs.
I seriously thought about not posting this because it violated the note I had just posted, suggesting we take this back to the original post. I allowed this one through to show the outrageous manipulation you have attempted here. Really? The "Cult of Kevin Randle Blog."
Sorry, that's not going to work.
I have no doubt Corey Goode is a phoney. I had never heard of Blue Avians before, so it seemed at least novel, but there is a precursor. A bit of research (not exhaustive or definitive) yielded channeler Bonnie Meyer, writing back in 2006. Readers of your blog may want to be aware of the earlier Blue Avian contactee, and her website, e.g. this page; her message is subtly different than Goode's:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.thelightside.org/EARSite/ac_lea_newjerusalem.html
On Goode’s name - Giles Corey and Sarah Good were early victims of the witch trials in Salem. So we have witches speaking to bluebirds. Witchcraft and Bluebird are codenames for disinformation in the John LeCarre spy novels. That may just be shapes in fire, … or a clue.