I now know more about the barrel
launching Bruno R (name left out of the original post that Dave Thomas put on
his website at: http://www.nmsr.org/socorro.htm).
Tony Bragalia, working with a little information that I supplied and searching
through other sources, was able to speak with Bruno in an attempt to
corroborate Kevin Ashley’s story at Thomas’s site. Bruno said that he did not
remember revealing his involvement to Ashely.
Bruno said that he was, in fact,
responsible for the Socorro UFO sighting. He, and a colleague he refused to
name, said they were using Ammonium Nitrate, an electric blasting cap,
dynamite, a large barrel and a gasoline pan. This was how they launched the
barrel, and as we’ve seen, the lift off
Barrel launch. |
Bruno said that both of them were
wearing blue jeans and not white coveralls. He said that he wasn’t short, as
suggested by Lonnie Zamora’s statements. He also said they had not decorated
the barrel in any way so he doesn’t know what the insignia was that Zamora had
mentioned.
Interestingly, he said that he
and his partner said nothing about this because they were afraid they would be
expelled. He said that after graduation, he had left to work in Central America
so that he was unavailable to anyone searching for him. He did say, “Now I feel
bad for Lonnie.” Which is interesting given the theory that the sighting was a
hoax designed to torment Zamora.
My initial reaction is that this
doesn’t fit in with the physical evidence that was gathered on the site within
hours of the craft lifting off. This included soil samples. Captain Richard T.
Holder, according to the Project Blue Book files, took soil samples. He gave
these to Dr. J. Allen Hynek, who was on the scene as the Air Force Consultant
to Blue Book. This means, of course, that the samples were gathered before the
scene was trampled by curiosity seekers. Remember that Dorothy Landoll told me
that she and her husband were out there the next day.
According to the Blue Book files,
“Laboratory analysis of soil samples disclosed no foreign material… analysis of
the burned bush showed no chemicals which would indicate a type of propellant.”
Lonnie Zamora and various individuals on the landing site. |
In the descriptions of the site
by those who were there that evening including Zamora, his friend Sergeant Sam
Chavez, Holder, FBI agent Arthur Byrnes, several other law enforcement officers
and military police, no one said a word about a battered barrel (I am assuming
here that the barrel would be battered after being blasted upwards and falling
back). They talked of other things they saw including burned bits of cardboard,
so they were talking about all sorts of debris.
The landing traces and there were
four, were not what you would expect from the launching of the barrel. These
were suggested to be landing gear imprints and not the haphazard craters
created by denotating dynamite. To those on the scene the impressions looked as
if they had been pressed into the ground rather than caused by an explosion, or
for that matter, by a shovel.
There are some other problems
with this tale. How did Bruno and his partner get away without some kind of
vehicle in the area, and the area was searched for tire tracks? Bruno said that they had not decorated the
barrel so he doesn’t know where that insignia came from that Zamora had
reported. As I say, what happened to that barrel? It was not found.
There are some problems with this
confession (well, this interview or conversation… it really wasn’t a
confession). It just doesn’t fit in with what we really know based on the
interviews conducted on the night of the sighting. It doesn’t fit with the
physical evidence collected. It doesn’t fit with the other sightings that were
reported to the police prior to Zamora arriving on the scene.
Hector Quintanilla seated. |
But I did think of one thing.
Bruno suggested that maybe Zamora had embellished the sighting, embarrassed by
all the commotion it had stirred. Hector Quintanilla, who was the chief of
Project Blue Book in 1964, said that he could not find an explanation for he
sighting and believed the solution might be hiding in Zamora’s head. He was
saying, I think, that there might have been an observation or a bit of
knowledge that Zamora had that he didn’t share with the investigators. If Zamora
was embellishing the story, then that might be what Quintanilla was thinking.
As I wrote that last sentence, I
knew that it would be misinterpreted by many. No, I don’t believe the barrel
explanation solves the case. But, if I’m going to be intellectually honest
about the investigation, I must look at all sides, and to be fair, I must
present all information. I find this tale interesting and slightly disturbing,
but I don’t believe this is the solution… which is not to say that Bruno and
his pal weren’t blowing up barrels, or that he believes this solves Socorro. It
is just one more complication as we attempt to learn what happened back in
1964.
"... what happened to that barrel"? Imagine these bright young, to be engineers, Bruno and partner preconceived hiding any evidence of their planned wrongdoing, drove to the launchsite with the barrel, explosives, gas, etc., and a stack of cardboard they planned to use as a launchpad, thrown in the back of a pick-up truck. After their mission was accomplished, they hastily collected the debris leaving behind only small bits of burnt cardboard. This certainly doesn't answer all the questions about the incident, but poses a plausible explanation for some of the inconsistencies in the story.
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ReplyDeleteWhat about following up with Bruno requesting more information his account.. I would be curious, how does he explain 1) what happened to the barrel after it landed, 2) how did they get away (and the lack of footprints and tire tracks), 3) any correspondence (perhaps even sent anonymously) with Zamora between when the event happened and before Bruno left for SA?
I agree, that his explanation as of now doesn't seem very likely for the reasons you mentioned and a couple of others. But, it would be interesting to see if he could elaborate on some questions such as the three above.
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ReplyDeletePlan to follow up. Plan to ask about the barrel. Burnt cardboard had nothing to do with this. The whole area, because of winds, had trash flying around. The burnt cardboard was an irrelevancy. And, if the guys were fleeing because Zamora had just arrived, I doubt they would have bothered gathering up the stuff, because, according to Bruno, they were just screwing around. It wasn't an attempt to fool Zamora so there was no reason to hastily grab anything.
You're right Kevin, not having more than a passing interest in the Zamora incident, and having testified in both Federal and State courts as an investigator more times than I can remember, I knew better than to frivolously speculate. Thanks for the clarification. Looking forward to the follow up.
ReplyDeleteinnocent, seemingly rationale people confess to murders all the time. This "explanation" does not line up in some many places as to be laughable. Missing barrel? no insignia? no coveralls after all ... not really matching much with the story as related by Zamora (remember: daylight sighting, close distance at 105 ft at one point). I used to be a big fan of unsolved crimes (Zodiac, Jack the Ripper, etc.) and it was amazing how many *very* plausible candidates there were for the crimes. You could gather little tidbits here and there and construct a very good case for a lot of people. For Socorro, the hoax / prank / Govt. solutions really don't impress. I certainly appreciate the research effort done to gather as much info as possible, but they're all rather 'foggy' in my opinion.
ReplyDeleteHaving worked with most types of military and civilian explosives , in my military career and holding blasting licenses in three states, I think I can state with some certainty this doesn't wash. Both the ammonium nitrate he claimed to use and the dynamite, which would have been either ammonium nitrate based or nitro based would have left loads of residue, as well as some materials from the blast, fuse, wiring, blasting cap copper bits etc. Not to mention rigging a barrel to blow straight in the air would be hit or miss.
ReplyDeleteWith Zamora there, and state trooper Chavez there in moments, where did our stalwart macgyvers hide? Don't buy it.
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