Former Air Force missileer, David Schindele, was the guest
this week. He had been part of a group of former military officers who had
encounters with UFOs. In his case, as he was eating breakfast, he heard about a
UFO sighting near Minot Air Force Base in North Dakota. When he arrived at the
Launch Control Facility for duty, he learned that the missiles in his flight had
gone off line.. You can listen to my interview with David Shindele here:
To end confusion about some of this let me say that this was
a year before a similar event took place as Malmstrom Air Force Base in
Montana. Information about that incident eventually made its way
into the
public arena. I reported on that incident, which also involved sightings of
UFOs around Belt, Montana, and the number of missiles that were disabled. And,
for those interested in the Belt, Montana, sightings and Malmstrom AFB missile
shut down, you can read about it in The Government UFO Files. You can
use the link to the left if you wish to learn more about that sighting and that
book.
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| David Schindele |
During our discussion, David revealed that such occurrences
weren’t as rare as we might think and that they do pose a threat to national
security. If an outside force is able to disable the missiles, rendering them
inoperable and unable to launch, then that entire retaliatory capable is defeated.
This is, of course, the elimination of a deterrent, which makes the world slightly
less safe.
This also suggests that UFO sightings are more important than
the government has let on. During the Belt, Montana, sightings, an investigator
with the Condon Committee did attempt to learn more. Although he had a security
clearance, there were aspects to the sighting that he was not allowed to
explore because of… what else? National Security.
Now, before I’m accused of cherry picking the data, I will
note that the Air Force investigation into the Malmstrom missile failure found
that the UFO sighting had nothing to do with it. The Unit History of the 341st
SMW, the unit directly involved, didn’t credit the UFO with disabling the
missiles. It did say, “Rumors of Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) around the
area of Echo Flight during the time of the default were unproven.”
Echo Flight was, of course, the missile unit that had been
affected by the shutdown, and Echo Flight was based at Malmstrom AFB. As I say,
the details of all this is published in The Government UFO Files.
During the interview with David, you do get to learn a little
more about how these things happen. He also provided some names of others who
had had similar experiences, and shared some of that information as well.
I don't know if it's too shocking that in 50+ years of Minuteman operations that there have been occasional incidents of missiles going offline.
ReplyDeleteThe problem was not that missiles went off line because there would be malfunctions causing that. The difference here is that it was an outside force that caused the problem and that all the missiles in the flight, spread out over hundreds of square miles went down at once. That was not supposed to be possible, given the way things were set up. An outside force might take out a single missile, but not all of them.
ReplyDeleteAnd that some of these events were accompanied by UFO sightings, is another factor.
Signifying Nothing: As someone who has worked on the maintenance side of things in the Air Force I can tell you a few things about missiles that are on alert. First, if one of them goes offline a maintenance crew is quickly dispatched to find out what is going on. Second, the missiles are always maintained in a timely fashion so they won't go offline. Parts are replaced to the equipment that keeps them in the environment needed for them to work.
ReplyDeleteIf two missiles go offline in a flight it is considered quite rare and you better believe the DCM (Deputy Commander Maintenance) is being notified as to what the causes are. The thing that happened is ten missiles going offline which is unheard of. Again, if one is not familiar with how maintenance works it is difficult for them to understand how rare it is for a flight (ten missiles) to suddenly go offline. Something caused it to happen and is letting us know they have that capability.
Truth be told, I never saw anything unusual but did hear a few ghost stories. No one ever claimed to see a UFO that I knew of. Then again, when the OSI tells you to keep your mouth shut, you do just that.
RedTornado2008: Very interesting comments; I've read "Faded Giant" by Robert Salas, which deals with the same or similar incidents. For those of us here who have some background in electronics, could you give a little more detailed response about exactly what is meant by a missile going "offline"? By that term, do you mean strictly incapable of launch? What exactly controls that feature, is it a computer, and if so is it directly powered by whatever maintains the other power to the silo (lights, etc.)? Also, is each silo directly connected to every other silo, and if so are they all connected/fed by the same power source? I work in the communications industry, and in some buildings we might have 3 high power transmitters, all fed by the same outside power source; naturally, if that outside power goes down, so do all three transmitters. However, there can be component failures in one transmitter that will cause it to go down while the others are still fully functional. Just trying to understand what you're saying from a technical standpoint....
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ReplyDeleteIIRC, no loss of site power caused any of the so called UFO incidents. Backup generators would have been provided if utility power was not available. During normal operation, individual missiles can be turned offline for maintenance or repair. For safety reasons, this would have to be done within the silo itself. I doubt it would be possible to put all missiles offline from one location. That would be a security issue. I've often wondered how these systems work, but I assume that information is still classified, even after all these years.
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Robert Hastings asked me to post this for him.
ReplyDeleteThree persons associated with the now-exposed AATIP group have publicly addressed the unequivocal link between UFO activity and the disruption of US nuclear missiles. During a December 20, 2017 interview with KLAS-TV investigative journalist George Knapp, Senator Harry Reid discussed—far too briefly and rather inelegantly—incidents occurring at Air Force missile bases during which UFOs somehow shut down the ICBM-system hardware. He said, “It’s all in the documents. Scores and scores of mostly men up there [at nuclear missile bases] would come out and look up [and say,] ‘Oh I wonder what that is?’ And [the UFOs] wouldn’t leave. The communications [system] in the missile defense installation was shut down. Didn’t happen once. More than once.” 1
Another person affiliated with the AATIP group is Dr. Harold Puthoff, a physicist who had previously worked on other classified projects for the Defense Department and the CIA. In a January 28, 2018 interview with George Knapp, Puthoff said, “Now it’s true that we haven’t had any obvious hostile attacks by UAVs [Unidentified Aerial Vehicles]. On the other hand—as Harry Reid mentioned in an interview with you—these craft have infiltrated our nuclear missile silos and have, on occasion, taken them offline. Once or twice could be a coincidence but there has been a whole northern tier of missile bases where, at base after base, the missiles went offline just as a UAV hovered above them. And it turns out that the same thing happened in Russia as well.” 2
If this were not enough, the former director of AATIP, Luis Elizondo, has also openly but sparingly confirmed a pattern of UFO activity at nuclear weapons sites. On May 19, 2018, I conducted a two-hour video interview with Elizondo in Albuquerque, New Mexico. To initiate a discussion of the topic, I read aloud the above quote by Dr. Puthoff and asked Elizondo, “How would you address Dr. Puthoff’s comments about UFO activity at nuclear weapons sites? Can you tell us about that?” He responded, “Well I can’t. But what I can say is that you’re probably looking in the right direction [as regards your UFOs and Nukes research].” As I stared intently at him, Elizondo restated his remark, saying, “I am unable to comment on that but I think you’re probably on the right track.” Then he shrugged as if to say, “Sorry, but that’s all you’re going to get from me.” 3
Not wanting to change the subject just yet, I quickly said, “One of the words in your project title is ‘Threat’. In my opinion, if you have UFO activity at nuclear weapons sites, I would consider that certainly a more fundamental threat than, say, unknown craft surveilling naval operations.” (Elizondo had previously released aircraft gun camera film showing UFOs maneuvering near U.S. Navy vessels during two separate incidents.) He replied, “Yeah, if you don’t have the ability to respond to a strategic threat, that’s probably an issue. I’d say that’s a big threat. If your nuclear capabilities, or counter-capabilities, can be brought offline, and back online, and you can’t do anything about it, I think that’s a threat.” Hoping to keep the ball rolling, I then asked, “In your estimate, is this an ongoing threat or something that was more confined to the past?” At that, Elizondo responded firmly, “I can’t have that conversation, I’m sorry.” 4
In similar fashion, during the October 2018 Italian UFO Conference sponsored by the Centro Ufologico Nazionale in Rome, Italy, Elizondo briefly said, “These UAPs [Unidentified Aerial Phenomena] displayed characteristics far beyond anything we had ever seen and for the first time demonstrated an ability to interfere with our nuclear strike capability.” 5
References:
https://www.theufochronicles.com/2017/12/ufo-study-focused-on-us-military-encounters.html
Puthoff, Dr. Harold. Coast to Coast AM, January 28, 2018
Elizondo, Luis. Video interview with Robert Hastings, May 19, 2018
Ibid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GequC_1oVi4