There
are times when I am truly amazed at the credulity of the UFO community. Cases
that are admitted hoaxes resurface with “new” evidence but are still admitted
hoaxes. Cases that have been shown to be fake, resurface as others seem to
believe that we have missed an important fact. And there are some that should
have never taken off, given the “evidence” surrounding them.
Just
the other day I was treated to a renewed interest in the story of Matilda
O’Donnell MacElroy who claimed to be a former member of the military who had
been in Roswell in 1947 and who had communicated with an alien creature that
survived the crash. There is so much wrong with this, that I can’t believe that
anyone took it seriously.
An alleged photograph of MacElroy... this is a picture of a commissioned officer and not an NCO. |
We’re
told that MacElroy was a nurse, but, of course, her name doesn’t surface in any
of the documents we have that provide listings of those serving in Roswell in
1947. She said that she was an NCO, but Army nurses, in fact all military
nurses, are commissioned officers, so she wasn’t a nurse. Some sort of
technician, maybe? Well, we have no information suggesting that there were any
female medical technicians assigned to Roswell in 1947, so that doesn’t work.
Besides, she said that she wasn’t a technician.
Then
we have the trouble with her rank in 1947. She said, because she had made
telepathic contact with the alien, she was assigned as its “companion?” or some
such nonsense. She was given a raise and promoted to Senior Master Sergeant.
This was a rank created by the Air Force (which didn’t exist in July 1947) in
June of 1958.
She
said that she drove Mr. Cavitt out to the site where one was alive. But, in all
my conversations with Cavitt, in all the questions Don Schmitt and I asked
him about others who might have some knowledge, and in all the names that
Cavitt supplied, hers never came up. Of course, Cavitt, as a captain, wasn’t
authorized a driver. Either he, or one of the others assigned to the CIC
office, would have driven the vehicles.
Bill
Rickett, the number two man in the CIC office, and who was willing to answer
all the questions put to him, never mentioned a female driver assigned to their
office and never mentioned a female who had worked with them, even on a
temporary basis. At some point as the questions were asked about those working
in the office, this would have been mentioned.
What
we see here is someone spinning a tale who knows nothing about the military or
the rank structure or its history. It’s as if he (and yes, I mean he) is
pulling the details out of thin air because they sound good.
Here
is what we are told in the very beginning of the book, Alien Interview: The
Letters and Notes of Matilda O’Donnell MacElroy. “This special READERS EDITION of ALIEN INTERVIEW [emphasis
in original] contains only the original Letters, the personal Notes
written by Matilda O’Donnell MacElroy, and a copy of the U.S. Army Air Force
Top Secret Official Interview Transcripts received by Matilda in 2007.”
Except,
of course, it wasn’t the U.S. Army Air Force in 1947 but was, in fact, the U.S.
Army Air Forces. True, a minor error, but one that suggests that the writer
didn’t really understand the situation in 1947 and one that those in that
branch of the military service would not have made.
And
why would a top secret document be sent to a witness. She would have no need
for it and would not have the capability to properly store it. But, then, since
we don’t have that document, we don’t really know what was in it, how accurate
it might be, or if it existed at all.
But
then there is the Disclaimer. It removes all doubt about the authenticity of
the book. I don’t know why more people haven’t paid attention to it. The
Disclaimer said:
As
far as the Editor of the book, “Alien Interview” is concerned, and for all
practical purposes, the content of the book is a work of fiction. The Editor makes
no claim to the factuality of the content, and in fact, cannot prove that the
alleged author actually ever existed. Although some of the dates, locations,
persons and incidents described may be factual or based on fact, there is no
evidence to authenticate that equally as many may be subjective contrivances of
the author.
All
of the information, notes and transcripts received by the Editor are contained
in the complete, original form, as represented in the book. The Editor is no
longer in possession of any original documents or copies of original documents
from the author, i.e., Mrs. MacElroy.
Some
material contained in the book may have similarities to Earth philosophies as
the variety of these are too numerous to list, and bear too many fundamental
similarities to be easily differentiated. Although the book discusses the
origins of the universe, the time track of the physical universe, paranormal
activities or immortal and/or extraterrestrial beings, “aliens” or “god”, it is
in no way the intention of the Editor to represent, endorse, forward or assume
the viewpoint of the author, any political doctrine, economic vested interest,
scientific hypothesis, religious practice or philosophy, whether terrestrial or
extraterrestrial.
The
notes and transcripts contained in the book, are solely and only based on the
representations and documents provided by the author, the late Matilda
O’Donnell MacElroy, unless otherwise specifically annotated by Footnotes in the
Appendix of the book.
The
Editor is not responsible for any assumptions, inferences or conclusions made
by the reader based on the material in this book, which are solely and only the
responsibility of the reader.
What
is true for you, is true for you.
Lawrence
R. Spencer – Editor
I’m
not sure if I need to say that Spencer wrote that he had none of the
documentation that was sent to him. He says that he no longer has possession of
it which means that we can’t independently test any of it. We have only his
word that those documents ever existed but with so many flaws in the story, it
seems unlikely that they ever did. In fact, at one point he says that he can’t
even prove that MacElroy existed and that he only spoke with her one time, on
the telephone, for about twenty minutes. Certainly not a ringing endorsement
for the validity of the tale.
In
what should have been, and should be nearly the first thing said about the
book, Spencer wrote, “As far as the Editor of the book, “Alien Interview” is
concerned, and for all practical purposes, the content of the book is a work of
fiction.”
At
that point, I have to ask, “Why should we treat it any differently?” He said it
is a work of fiction and with that disclaimer, we should have no further reason
for discussing the book in a forum about UFOs. He said he had none of the
documentation and he couldn’t prove that MacElroy ever lived. The book belongs
in the realm of science fiction, not very good science fiction, but science
fiction nonetheless. All questions about the importance of the book and the
authenticity of the information have been answered. It is a work of fiction.
End of discussion.
It's all baloney. Case closed.
ReplyDeleteKevin:
ReplyDeleteAnother splendid work of investigation by you.
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The forward reads like a junk insurance policy. This should be funny to listen to https://open.spotify.com/episode/0RoxqaBT9WqrAI2kTVfD8T?si=2XlrqOzFSiCXKyVpVNTkIA&utm_source=copy-link
ReplyDeleteI listened to the book and was not aware of the forward commentary. The content is what tipped me off that it was fiction. Mr. Spencer obviously knows very little about science.
ReplyDeleteI believe that our government believes it. Ttsa, tom delonge, look at who he is in association with. Now look at angels And airwaves waves we dont have to whisper albulm cover, it looks exactly like the electronic force screen. Also, a defector of ttsa has said delonge was pushing a scientologist fantasy. Hal putoff was into scientology. This book sounds exactly like scientology. Also, remote viewing has been proven real. That alone gives this book some validation. All we can do is compare what has been said to reality.... what with children remembering past lives, this seems more believable all the time.
ReplyDeleteI believe that this is what our government believes. Ttsa is at the forefront of disclosure. Look at delonges album cover we dont have to whisper. Looks exactly like force screen surrounding earth. There's other things too. A ttsa defector claimed they were pushing a scientologist fantasy, this story sounds very much like the whole lord xenu thing. Also remote viewing has been proven real. That validates much of this story. I'm just gonna say it, I believe it too. Much more believeable than any of the religions anyway.
ReplyDeleteYour investigation about this particular matter has holes in it, not very good investigative reporting.
ReplyDelete1. No where, has the photo been confirmed it was of Matilda. Lawrence R Spencer (deceased) the editor of the Alien Interview book, has not claimed this photo is of Matilda.
2. If you did read the book, Matilda clearly states she was enlisted in the U.S. Women's Army Air Force (WAC) Medical Corp, which was a part of the US Army back then.
3. The rank of Senior Master Sergeant was required for her minimum security clearance. The pay grades match as mentioned by Matilda for the years of 1943-45, so perhaps they didn't change for 1947? The WAC had Master Sergeant rank in 43-45, so it could have been the next rank available to get her security clearance. She was enlisted, not an Officer.
4. You are using totally irrelevant Air Force information.
5. Why would Cavitt confirm Matilda's existence? She was given a new identity and didn't exist as far as they were concerned. Cavitt would be going against all security protocol saying she in fact existed and it would blow the lid off all the denials that anything at Roswell happened.
6. She wasn't employed or assigned as a driver, she was a nurse. They needed a nurse or thought they did to offer aid to survivors. "When the news that there had been a crash was received at the base, I was asked to accompany Mr. Cavitt, the Counter Intelligence Officer, to the crash site as the driver of his vehicle, and to render any needed emergency medical assistance to any survivors, if necessary."
7. If you want to get pedantic about text, you obviously didn't copy the text correctly, "and a copy of the U.S. Army Air Force Top Secret Official Interview Transcripts received by Matilda in 2007.' It is 'received FROM' not 'by'.
8. You obviously haven't read the book. The documents were NOT sent to Matilda. They were retained by her all this time since 1947. You can do a pdf search of the book regarding that for yourself. Hint - towards the end.
9. Spencer had to claim fiction, as he can't prove anything happened at Roswell. He can't prove anything about Matilda or the documents. If you read the Readers edition, you would have also read that Mr and Mrs MacElroy were confirmed as previously living in a double story flat they rented in Navan Ireland by the landlord. The home exists. Their remains are in the local Cemetery.
10. What any of us believe or not makes little difference. Something happened near Roswell in July 1947. What that was is now history. Perhaps one day the true story will be told about the supposed 'weather balloon' event.
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ReplyDeleteAnother person hiding behind a keyboard...
The author said it was a work of fiction... he disguised it as fact to generate interest.
There is no evidence that any such person as Matilda existed, there are too many things wrong with the tale and it merely obscured what is important. We don't need fake witnesses cluttering up the landscape. Believe if you want, but this tale is untrue.
I agree with you. The book can only be classified as 'fiction'. The only facts could be that Mr Spencer received a package, supposedly from someone called Matilda, but as he suggests he burnt everything, that is dubious also. There are a couple of what seem to be original pages from Matilda's letter floating around the net, not the actual transcripts originals. Spencer could have done himself a favor and kept some images of the package he received and all documents. Maybe he did? They might surface or may not.
ReplyDeleteI was merely pointing out some areas of consideration regarding your methods of reaching the conclusion you have. There is evidence to suggest otherwise, which I have offered up for readers.
As neither you, nor me, nor any reader of the material these days was there at the time, we can't offer any judgement as to what is right or not. We simply don't know. If the happens to be true, then it provides something to consider. The reader can make their own judgement if it makes sense or not. Proving anything is almost impossible.
As I mentioned in my last paragraph. Something happened at Roswell in 1947, just what that was exactly may never be revealed.
At first I was fascinated and I believed the story could be true. I certainly do believe that a non-human intelligence does exist. Anyway, I read the book twice and on the second reading I discovered the following inconsistency...
ReplyDeleteIn the 2nd paragraph of chapter 11, the Alien supposedly says, on the 29th of July 1947, the following to the Nurse, Matilda O'Donnell MacElroy: "Can you imagine how much progress could have been made on Earth if people like Johannes Gutenberg, Sir Isaac Newton, Benjamin Franklin, George Washington Carver, Nicola Tesla, Richard Trevithick, Jonas Salk and many thousands of similar geniuses and inventors were living today?"
Jonas Salk was not yet famous in 1947. He was alive, yet he only became famous in 1955. So it makes no sense at all for the statement to have been made in 1947. I believe it's a simple mistake by the author of those words, who was not the Nurse, Matilda O'Donnell MacElroy but most likely, Lawrence Spencer.
Regards
Brandon Hurd