'X' Zone Broadcast Network - Curt Collins

 

This week’s guest on A Different Perspective was Curt Collins, he of www.blueblurrylines.com and www.thesaucersthattimeforgot.com. I had invited him on to talk about the series he writes about the more obscure but no less interesting stories about flying saucers. You can listen to the show here:

https://www.spreaker.com/episode/48381122

We began by talking about some of the things he had found in his searches. He mentioned my chasing footnotes as an example of looking for the primary sources of information. This might include speaking to the main witnesses when they could be

Curt Collins

found, or the original articles that appeared in newspapers or magazines. We both have found times when the information being circulated today doesn’t resemble accurately the information as it was originally presented. I thought specifically of a metal vessel blow out of solid rock in Massachusetts in the 19^th century. For those interested in this analysis, see:

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2006/11/ooparts-and-tubal-cain.html

Curt mentioned a story that seemed to reflect on the abduction phenomenon as written today, called The Outer Limit (and as he said, not to be confused with the old TV show, The Outer Limits). This program had to do with atomic testing causing damage to the Earth, something that is in the news today.

We also talked, briefly about Carroll Wayne Watts, who, in 1967, claimed that he had an encounter that was sort of a cross between a contact and an abduction. It was an admitted hoax. Watts ended up divorces and in prison. He blamed it on something that had happened to him that he didn’t understand. You can read the whole tale here:

https://www.blueblurrylines.com/2021/11/contact-in-texas-lost-ufo-photos.html#comment-form

I did ask about hoaxes, since he had mentioned them. He drew a distinction between actual hoaxes and stories in which the witnesses might have been fooled by some natural phenomenon or some terrestrially based technology seen under unusual circumstances. This led to a brief discussion of MJ-12 and the alien autopsy both of which were hoaxes designed with specific intents.

We did touch on the Roswell Slides and how that fiasco seems to have slipped from the public mind. Several years ago it was a hot topic but it crashed within, literally hours, after the Mexico City presentation when the museum setting was recognized and the card on the display was read.

We did talk about Roswell and Aztec. The Aztec crash seems to be a hoax (though I know Scott Ramsey would disagree). You can read more about the Aztec Crash here:

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2014/12/the-roswell-slides-and-aztec-ufo-crash.html

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2012/06/aztec-karl-pflock-and-scott-ramsey.html

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2016/05/the-real-honest-to-goodness-date-of.html

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2012/06/aztec-scott-ramsey-and-fred-reed.html

All these cases and reports cloud the issue of UFOs as extraterrestrial craft. With Roswell, everyone agrees that something fell, it’s just a question of what it was. I’m of the opinion that all terrestrial explanations have been eliminated and did mention the Air Force helped with that. They ruled out everything but the Project Mogul arrays.

During the show we did talk about the Ramey Memo and how AI might be the only way we’re going to learn anything more. We also touched on Jesse Marcel’s diary and the research done with that.

In the end, we ran out of time. Those looking for more information can visit Curt’s websites mention at the top of the article. They make for some very interesting reading.

Next week, if all works out and the creek don’t rise, I’ll be talking with Robert Sheaffer about his take on UFOs and from what he said, my take on UFO’s and the Deep State. We’ll probably delve into the current interest in UFOs by Congress and by extension, the military.