Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick Responds to David Grusch Testimony

 

Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, who heads up the AARO program seems to disagree with some of the statements made by David Grusch about a multi-decade program to collect and reverse engine UFOs. Kirkpatrick has said that in his official capacity to investigate UFOs, he had seen nothing to suggest that there is alien visitation but there are some sightings that are not easily explained. Grush is saying, that in his capacity as a whistleblower that he had heard reports of alien visitation, that he has talked with those who have direct, meaning first-hand knowledge of crash/retrievals, saying that the government not only knows more but that they have recovered alien spacecraft and the bodies of the flight crews.

Sean Kirkpatrick at the Senate Hearing.

If you ask me which of these two I believe, I’m going to say that I want to believe Grusch because his statements validate my research and investigation over the last five decades. But that is what I want to believe.

Grusch giving testimony at the Congressional Hearing.

Kirkpatrick, saying that he had seen no evidence of this crash retrieval program and knows of no such program, is probably telling the truth. I will note, however, that his not knowing of the program is not quite the same thing as saying there is no such program.

What can we deduce from all of this?

I look back on the history of UFO research and investigation by various components of the US Government and see they make these sorts of opposing statements. Those who are supposedly in the loop and those outside the loop often contradict each other. In 1948, the Navy and the Air Force launched an investigation into UFOs. The officers who prepared the document, “Air Intelligence Report No. 100-203-79,” which was dated December 10, 1948, noted that they did not have access to all areas of military secrecy. They wrote, in part:

THE ORIGIN of the devices is not ascertainable. There are two reasonable possibilities: (1) The objects are domestic devices, and if so, their identification or origin can be established by a survey of the launchings of airborne devices… (2) Objects are foreign, and if so, it would seem most logical to consider that they are from a Soviet Source…

SINCE the Air Force is responsible for control of the air in defense of the U.S., it is imperative that all other agencies cooperate in confirming or denying the possibility that these objects are of domestic origin. Otherwise, if it is firmly indicated that there is no domestic explanation, the objects are a threat and warrant more active efforts of identification and interception…

IT must be accepted that some type of flying objects have been observed, although their identification and origin are not discernible. In the interest of national defense it would be unwise to overlook the possibility that some of the objects are of foreign origin.

I thought this important because this is where we are today. Please note the language used here and the conclusions drawn. And please note that we are no closer to an answer today then we were way back then.

What we have are two rather credible people, and I say rather because there is still much, we don’t know, who are at opposite ends of the spectrum. One of them saying yes there are and the other saying no there are not.

Others have suggested, after reading Kirkpatrick’s letter that he, Kirkpatrick, was calling the witnesses, that is Grush, David Fravor and Ryan Graves, liars. I see nothing to suggest that Kirkpatrick was calling either of the Navy pilots liars and it seems he might be annoyed with Grasch, he wasn’t really calling him a liar either.

Kirkpatrick, expressing his displeasure with the Congressional hearings that feature those three had written:

I cannot let yesterday’s hearing pass without sharing how insulting it was to the officers of the Department of Defense and Intelligence Community who chose to join AARO, many with not unreasonable anxieties about career risks this would entail.

They are truth-seekers, as am I. But you certainly would not get that impression from yesterday’s hearing.

Well, that wasn’t my impression. True, Grusch hinted at some strong consequences from his blowing the whistle, but it might be said that those problems came from the possible exposure of classified material. It might be that his superiors were worried about the compromise of legally classified material, some of which might not have a thing to do with UFOs, or UAPs.

Yes, what Grusch said was spectacular, but it must also be remembered that he was talking about things he had been told and things he had heard, but almost nothing of a first-hand nature. He would reveal those in closed sessions.

The problem for me was his claim that there had been a crash of an alien craft in Italy in 1933. This has been researched by colleagues in Italy including Edordo Russo. who has provided evidence of a hoax. Certainly, nothing revealed about this case could adversely affect national security. Certainly, if Grusch was on the inside as he claims, he would not have been fooled by this hoax.

So, while the news media, and many in the UFO community, are talking about lies and infighting, I think it boils down to two separate entities with ties to intelligence and information about UFOs, disagreeing with the importance of that evidence and the reliability of the sources. As I have said before, if we don’t know the sources and the cases, we can’t draw intelligent conclusions about the veracity of the information. All we can say is that Grush seems to be credible and that Kirkpatrick is the man in charge of AARO. At the moment, they seem to be opposed to one another but there might become a time when they are in agreement.

All we have are some rather astonishing allegations by Grusch and some hints that many of the most recent sightings have mundane solutions according to Kirkpatrick. Currently, we just don’t know which path to follow to the end but all the speculation isn’t really helping.

The mainstream media, when they don’t have facts or information, resort to repeating themselves and speculating about what is happening. They don’t really know either and have no special inside knowledge but that hasn’t ever stopped them from throwing out whatever strange comment they can think of.

I will point out that all the calls for transparency have been ignored and until we can lift that shroud of silence, we really won’t have the answers we seek. As many have suggested, we need a little patience, but I fear the bloom will come off this rose, especially with all the election nonsense going on (and what I mean here is that the election is more than a year in the future and can’t we take a break from the campaigning), interest in solving the UFO puzzle might just be switched to the back burner until it is conveniently forgotten.