Over the last week, as
I prepared for my radio show/podcast and my segment on Coast-to-Coast AM, I
came across several interesting UFO cases. These came from my interview with
Rob Swiatek, searching for additional content and interest in cases with
multiple chains of evidence.
Oddly, the first thing
I found came from Stan Gorden’s UFO Anomalies Zone that had multiple
witnesses, photographs and possible EM Effects. Unfortunately, the photographs
aren’t very good and the two witnesses, who didn’t know one another, had the
opportunity to discuss the sighting before Gordon arrived on the scene.
According to Gordon’s report, the witness (who he identified as John and
pointed out that John was not his real name) said that he was near Smithfield,
Pennsylvania, when his car stalled as if it had been turned off.
John saw a large, black
object that he described as a cylinder or pipe-shaped object that was hovering
about 300 feet over him. After a few moments, it moved off until it was
partially hidden by some tree branches, where it hovered again. He wanted to
get a picture and got out of his car for a better perspective.
He walked out into a
field for that better view but now the UFO was about a mile distant. It hovered
for a few seconds and then moved again. He took a few pictures with his iPhone
but the photos only showed a dark, distant object.
Gordon, who learned of
the case almost as it happened, drove out immediately to investigate. He spoke
to the first witness, John, who wasn’t the only one there. Another car had
stopped behind the first. Gordon interviewed John and was told that the second
witness (Joe, which was not his real name either) also had car trouble. Gordon
confirmed that with Joe, who had also seen a large object, but his view was
partially obstructed by the trees.
When Gordon arrived, he
learned that the two witnesses had compared notes, which was unfortunate. They
agreed on the description. Gordon examined the cars but found no unusual
magnetic effects. John said that as the car stalled, the radio was filled with
static, but it was working fine when Gordon checked it later.
The men had attempted
to start their cars after the UFO was gone but failed. Joe had called for a tow
truck. Gordon suggested they try again and both cars then started with little
trouble.
The ultimate
description of the UFO was a dark gray object that resembled a piece of pipe. John
said there seemed to be some stuff inside the end but he couldn’t make out what
it was. Joe said that he saw the UFO hovering over the John’s car as he stalled.
John said that the
object was about ten to fifteen feet across and about thirty feet long. There
was a haze around the craft that partially obscured his view. He said that it
was a pale green haze, and that he could only see one end of the UFO.
Gordon obtained copies
of the photographs to attempt to enhance them but that process hasn’t been
completed. He did have an illustration made that the first witness said was a
good drawing of what he had seen.
This sighting is
interesting because there were two witnesses who were slightly independent,
meaning they didn’t know one another at the time. There are photographs of the
UFO, but those aren’t as sharp and clear as we would like. And there was the
interaction with the environment, which is the electromagnetic effect. You can
read Gordon’s full report here:
Also, during the show,
Rob mentioned a photograph that had been taken by an airline passenger.
According to the report that was filed with MUFON and is part of their Case
Management System, the woman, riding in the first-class section, looked out the
window when she saw a black trail of black smoke, she estimated was about
10,000 below them. She thought it was strange and it would be a good idea to
snap a picture of it because she believed the plane was having serious engine
problems. If there was an accident, she would have able to supply some
photographic evidence.
She said she was on the
left side of the plane and since it was so close, she believed the pilots had
to be aware of it as well as other passengers. She said that it took her a bit
to grab her phone, but she tried her best to get a clear picture.
The picture reminded me
of a classic photograph taken in South America in the 1950s of a cigar-shaped
craft that was also had a long smoke tail. Her picture follows:
Florida UFO picture. |
The analysis of the
picture didn’t reveal any sort of control surfaces. The smoke was thought to be
a normal type of contrail. The analysis suggested the object was only about 400
feet below the airliner. The MUFON Field Investigator’s conclusion was that the
object was not an aircraft.
Rob also talked about a
case from Florida in which the witness was startled by a loud, metallic,
ripping sound. She reported seeing a triangular-shaped UFO, seeming to parallel
the highway. The object sheered the top off a tree and seemed to stall traffic.
She said that she got out of her car and spoke to other witnesses who
manifested some rather severe injuries. She didn’t think to get the names of
any of those witnesses, and searches later for the damaged tree were
unsuccessful. You can listen to our discussion here:
When I interviewed
Robert Sheaffer a couple of weeks earlier, I had asked him what he wanted in
the way of evidence of off-world visitors. He suggested a case with multiple,
independent witnesses and some form of other evidence such as good photographs.
Ideally, and I add this myself, that radar data was available as well, not to
mention an interaction with the environment. These cases fit that requirement…
almost. In the Florida case, the woman said that everyone was shook up by the
encounter, so no one thought to take pictures or get the addresses of the other
witnesses. If they could have found the damaged tree, it would have added an
important element to the case. You might say, “Close, but no cigar.”
The Stan Gordon report
is the same. Two, what I think of as semi-independent witnesses, whose cars had
stalled were involved. There are photographs, but by the time the first witness
(John) got his cell phone into action, the object was too far away for there to
be any detail in the pictures. A missed bet.
And, as I say, the
witnesses, had the opportunity to discuss the sighting before Gordon arrived,
meaning they aren’t all that independent. But the elements are there no matter
how compromised. Oh, I don’t mean to suggest that the case rises to the level of
good evidence, but the elements are there. They just needed to be refined.
Rob and I finished the
show with a discussion of the statistics about UFO sightings in the last few
years. They reveal some interesting trends. For those interested, You can
listen that the last segment and look at those charts that he mention, which follow
here.
There was a great deal of information included in the interview that I haven’t mentioned here. For those who enjoy a discussion of multiple events and observations about the current state of UFO investigation, this is a show you don’t want to miss.
Kevin: I thank Rob Swiatek and yourself for a wonderfully passionate
ReplyDeletebroadcast about UFOs and the pursuit of the truth about them. The two of you together displayed a genuine rapport that was truly engaging to the listener.
Kevin, A correction to your account of the EM case in Pennsylvania. Stan Gordon published the account on his site, but the investigator is actually a fellow named Jim Brown. Given my interest in this type of case--which is now so infrequent--I've already had a long chat with him about his investigation, which was fairly thorough. Cases where more than one vehicle stall simultaneously are quite rare, even years ago.
ReplyDeleteNice interview with Rob!
Excellent work. Can we get a description of the Y axis on the first graph? I can't figure out what that graph is supposed to show me after looking at it for a few minutes. If it's supposed to be the percentage of shapes reported by MUFON vs AARO, it's confusing to me that they both don't add up to 100%.
ReplyDeleteWhy the fixation [sic] on E-M effects? What does it tell us about the phenomenon other than its effect on motors or electricity? What's that to do with purpose or intent or even meaning of anything pertinent. It's a sidebar that obviously interests you guys but it's meaningless.
ReplyDeleteRich -
ReplyDeleteThe important point is the interaction with the environment. The Condon Committee suggested a way to validate the claims of vehicle interference which means there is a possibility of gathering additional evidence that doesn't rely on the eyewitness. It is just one other aspect of the whole phenomenon. When added to other forms of evidence a stronger case.
Not only that Fran Ridge's MADAR system looks for EM Effects (among other things) that records approaches of UFOs. A sudden spike in the electromagnetic component triggers an alert. Since the MADAR system is independent of an observer's sighting, that provides another link in the chain of evidence.
ReplyDeleteI get the "data" accumulation Kevin but, for me, it's like determining what kind of toga Julius Caesar was wearing when he was assassinated. Is that important to the event, or an irrelevant sidebar?
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