A Good Match for the Zamora Symbol has been Found

Almost from the moment that strange craft was reported by Police Officer Lonnie Zamora in 1964, Air Force officers, UFO researchers, journalists and those with an interest in UFOs have been searching for an Earth based symbol to match that which Zamora saw. The search was complicated by military a military officer and an FBI agent who interviewed Zamora within a couple of hours. They suggested that he keep the symbol to himself, not to hide the evidence, but to have something to use if others reported the craft and symbol. That was further complicated when they, or someone at Project Blue Book, invented a symbol to satisfy the news media.

For those interested in reviewing this aspect of the case, you can find my postings about that here:

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2018/11/socorro-symbol-redux.html

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2016/11/a-final-analysis-of-socorro-symbol.html

Over the years, there have been suggestions about that symbol, but they weren’t very close matches. Now, however, there is one that is frightening close to what Zamora reported. It is upside down. It is attached to a document dated 1928 which is part of a larger document. You can find that document here:

https://www.hal5.org/PDF/HAL5-Dec2018-Talk-AntiGravity.pdf

If the link doesn’t work, and I’ve had trouble with this sort of thing in the past, this is a look at several patents held by Nikola Tesla. The relevant one is Patent No. 1655144. Use that number in your search engine. This is a pdf. You need to scroll down to the patents from 1928 and you’ll see it in the upper left corner of the illustration.

While it is not an exact match, but, as I say, it is frightening close to the symbol that Zamora drew. Yes, I know what you’re thinking, why not just show it. The links above show the symbols released in 1964 and provide the documentation for it. I believe these provide a good history of that symbol.

That doesn’t answer the question however. Just in case links are broken or the patent number doesn’t work, here is that symbol:

Is the symbol here, the inspiration for the Zamora/Socorro symbol?

I should point out that Charles Blithfield discovered this and passed it along to me. Credit for the discovery goes to him.

And no, I don’t know if this taints the Zamora case, though it seems to be an incredible coincidence if an alien spacecraft held a symbol that is so close to the one Telsa used. Over the years, there has been quite a bit of controversy about this. I have to wonder, if the object Zamora reported was some sort of experimental craft, if there is any link to the various machines flying around White Sands had any link to Tesla.

Anyway, Blithfield has certainly complicated the case. I am reminded that Hector Quintanilla, the chief of Blue Book in 1964 had labeled the Zamora case as “unidentified,” he thought that the solution was somewhere in Zamora’s mind. He thought there might have been something that Zamora saw but hadn’t quite figured out what it was. Maybe this is the hint that Zamora needed for access that memory.

I do want to note that I don’t believe Zamora made up the sighting and I believe he was truly confused by it. He saw something he couldn’t identify and reported what he had seen.

As I say, thanks to Charles Blithfield for the information. 

Drones: The Guesses Just Keep on Coming

I had hoped, with Congress in recess and we’re in the middle of the holidays, that I would be free from more drone discussion. However, there was one interesting item I caught over the weekend. Representative Nancy Mace, who is the Chairwoman of the House Subcommittee on Cybersecurity, Information Technology and Government Innovation, said that she had been in a classified briefing on the drones.

Like President-elect Trump, she was careful about what she said. She indicated that the government did know more about these drone incursions that the claimed and said that she was interested in the fact that there were two distinct shapes involved in some of those sightings. She then said she didn’t want to get into the classified information she had received. If we follow the two-source rule used by journalists, we have two sources, that have been identified and who, given who their inside status, are in a position to know something more about the drones than we civilians.

In the last few days, there has been more analysis, some of it by other officials and some of it by various pundits, that suggests the government, or elements of the government, know what is going on. And there are those who are saying, with some justification, that this latest interest is the result of hysteria. Too many people outside looking for drones and spotting them. Or, in other words, not all the sightings are of these unidentified drones.

I also need point out that there are very few of us who believe that the drones are of off-world manufacture. This whole thing is Earth based.

Finally, there is no evidence, at the moment, that has been given to us by the government or that we have learned ourselves, that there is a threat here. I suppose we could say, and some have said, the drones could be a threat to aerial navigation, and one airport was shut down by a close encounter with a drone, but the truth is, this is one of those reflective phenomena. That means, simply, that the more attention we pay to it, the more our interest increases.

Anyway, the holidays have gotten in the way of drone reporting. We still see interesting video, and some of the news media continues to pursue the story, but the rest of us are no longer that interested in it.

Now, for those interested in such things, I’m doing Night Dreams Radio. For those interested, you can watch and listen here:

https://youtube.com/@nightdreamstalkradio?si=3dTWZX-SpgO0_zT4

And going completely off script, my wishes that everyone has a better new year than the last. 

Drones, Donald Trump and the CIA

 

So, I’m driving my car, pushing the buttons to find something interesting on the radio and I blunder into President-elect Trump’s press conference. I’m about to hit the button but I caught the question being asked. “Can you comment on the drones…”

Trump seems to hesitate and then said, “The Government knows what is happening… Look, our military knows where they took off from. If it’s a garage they can go right into that garage. They know where it came from and where it went. For some reason, they don’t want to comment. And I think they’d be better off saying what it is. Our military knows and our President knows and for some reason they want to keep people in suspense. I can’t imagine it is the enemy because if it was the enemy they’d blast it out. Even it was late they’d blast it. Something strange is going on. For some reason they don’t want to tell the people and they should because the people… I mean they happen to be over Bedminster. I don’t think I’ll spend the weekend in Bedminster. I have decided to cancel my trip.”

The President-elect, as if I had to mention that.

He’s interrupted by additional questions and makes a very telling comment. A reporter asked, “Have you received an intelligence briefing on the drones?”

He says, “I don’t want to comment on that.”

They then descent into questions about vaccines, which is not relevant to our discussion.

I did see, or hear, that an ex-member of the CIA was suggesting that the drones were some sort of classified exercise. The CIA has spent decades taking credit for all sorts of UFO sightings, suggesting during the 1950s and 60s that high flying spy planes were the UFOs. Now the CIA, or rather someone who was a member of the CIA, is making the same claim about the drones.

And the CEO of a company that makes drones suggested that they are “sniffing” for gas leaks or areas of radiation. That is why they’re flying at night, which implies that these searches are classified. But I wonder if that was true, then why are they all lit up. If it’s a secret search, turn off the damn lights. And that really doesn’t explain the daylight sightings.

I’m inclined to believe what Trump said during the press conference. He said the military knows, which explains why none have been shot down. He then didn’t answer the question about having been briefed, which is, of course, a type of answer. Given what he has done since the election during this transition period, it is very likely that he has been briefed. That briefing suggested there is nothing dangerous involved.

I also wonder if some of the drone sightings haven’t been inspired by the hysteria that is being exhibited. During a wave of UFO sightings in the 1973, there were several cases in which witnesses were making up their encounters, increasing the hysteria. There was a case where three men, dressed in aluminum foil and standing near a road were waving at the cars. They were eventually arrested.

The point is, that it is now difficult to separate the real sightings from the faked sightings or the incidents in which some drone owners are taking advantage of the public concern. There is a solid body of evidence that drones are flying into areas that are restricted, violating FAA regulations, and adding to the hysteria that has gripped the nation.

To this point, and I stress that, to this point, there has been no incident in which one of these drones caused an accident. That isn’t to say that might never happen, only, to this point, it is the hysteria and the fear of the unknown that is driving these events.

If the Government has the answer, and it doesn’t involve our adversaries as we have been told repeatedly, and it’s not the Martians, or aliens from another solar system, then there is no real reason for the secrecy. If they can end the hysteria now, then it is time to do so.

Drones: My Estimate of the Situation

For the last several days we have been talking about drones. At this point, it seems that we are relying more on rumor, speculation and misinformation. There have been several people interviewed and official spokespeople have been saying, things, sometime in direct contradiction of each other.

For some perspective on this, I will note that dozens, if not hundreds of drones have been seen over New Jersey and now those sightings have slipped into Pennsylvania and New York. There are several military installations in that general area. There are many videos of the drones seen in both daylight and at night. There are descriptions of drones that are relatively small, there are some described as six feet in diameter and then those are said to be the size of SUVs.

The Predator Drone. The size of an SUV? Suggestive of what some
are seeing over New Jersey and Pennsylvania?

You might say this began with the incursions around Langley Air Force Base recently and now migrated into other areas of the United States. And the Pentagon just reported that the drones, whatever they are, do not come from any of our adversaries in today’s world and they are not part of the US military.

After the incursions around Langley in December 2023, Christopher Mellon wrote an article wondering who was operating those mysterious drones that have been seen over Navy military exercises, around nuclear plants, and other critical operations. He mentioned that these intrusions by drones got so bad around Langley AFB that in response to the drones, aircraft at the base were moved to other, more secure locations.

Mellon wrote “Our government has had no success in determining where they are coming from or who is operating them. It is also surprising that not a single one has malfunctioned and been recovered despite extensive operations by large numbers of them over extended periods of time.”

Christopher Mellon

Air Force General Mark Kelly told reporters for the Wall Street Journal that one drone, was “roughly 20 feet long and flying at more than 100 miles an hour, at an altitude of roughly 3,000 to 4,000 feet. Other drones followed, one by one, sounding in the distance like a parade of lawn mowers.”

Adding to this, U.S.-Canadian North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) Air Force Gen. Gregory M. Guillot told The War Zone that the Langley AFB incursions were just some of the more than 600 incursions reported over military installations in 2022.

He also said two other interesting things. One was that the he didn’t know if the drones had been had been tracked back to their recovery point or whether they could have been launched by a vessel off the coast. And two, he saw that NORAD’s responsibility for countering UAS was very limited to something that would be an attack of national consequence. He added that NORTHCOM had no responsibility or authority to take action, meaning they wouldn’t be intercepting them or trying to down one. He was saying that it was somebody else’s responsibility.

Surprisingly, he told The War Zone that all this activity led to the creation of a counter-drone experiment this week called Falcon Peak 2025, in which several companies will offer their solutions to counter these incursions.

Which I found interesting because, according to Mellon, these incursions had something of a history beginning in late February to early March, 2019. He mentioned, specifically, drones, displaying bright spotlights were seen repeatedly over Anderson Air Force Base on Guam. It seemed these drones were interested in a newly installed anti-ballistic missile system.

There is some indication that the Chinese might have been interested in learning about this system but there is no direct evidence of them deploying drones. The real problem with that is that none of the drones were brought down by American defensive systems. In other words, they operated with impunity.

There is, of course, proof of Chinese interest in what it happening in Canada and the United States. In February 2023, there was the great balloon flight that crossed parts of Alaska, Canada and the US. It was finally intercepted over the Atlantic Ocean and brought down. I often wondered why it wasn’t intercepted over some of the wide-open spaces in Canada or in the western and central parts of the US. It was apparently allowed to complete its mission, whatever that mission was, before it was destroyed.

And, not to put too fine a point on it, these drone incursions have been going on since, at least, 2019 and now, they have come up with a program that, apparently, will begin in 2025. Nothing like jumping on the problem and solving it in a timely manner.

But Guam and Anderson AFB were not the only target in 2019. In September, swarms of these drones were around the Palo Verde Nuclear Power Plant. The drones had flashing red and white lights. Again, these drones flew without hindrance or restriction and no identification was made. Robert Hastings, in his book UFOs and Nukes, made a study of these sorts of incursions in which security forces were unable to identify or down the objects flying over both military bases where atomic weapons were stored and the power plants that used atomic power.

In the latest go-around, we learned there is a report of a large drone, flying above 8000 feet, in violation of FAA rules and regulations. Drones have also been reported at altitudes between 24,000 - 28,000 feet. An orb was chased by an F-16 over a sensitive military base in New Jersey. That object vanished at an estimated Mach 3 and I will note that it was an estimate of its speed. These reports certainly are a threat to aerial navigation, and to national security but all we are hearing is talk about what they can do.

In fact, there seem to be laws or regulations that prevent any attempt to bring one down unless there is a threat. I’m not sure why there is talk of that. I would think that the drones operating above 400 feet would be a fair target since it is in violation of FAA regulations and is, therefore a threat to aerial navigation.

I’ll note here that the US military has drones that can operate at tens of thousands of feet above the ground. The Predator drone can hover high over the battlefield for hours and is virtually invisible from the ground. It is large enough to carry Hellfire Missiles and can be controlled from bases inside the United States while flying over targets on other continents. It is so quiet that it can’t be heard on the ground. In other words, we have the technology to do some of the things that the drones over New Jersey are reported to have done.

Given the growing concern over the drone flights that are now reported in New York as well as New Jersey and Pennsylvania, members of Congress were given a classified briefing on the ongoing problem with UAP, once known widely as UFOs. These drones are classified as UAP. Following that meeting, Congresswoman Nancy Mace said:

"We talked about several different UAPs that have been in the press or leaked. Most of those have been explained but there are ones that we discussed that are unexplained and they have a plan, they say, to disclose and declassify how they came to that conclusion and why they're still objects that are unanswered. There are certain shapes that are unexplained, that are in the air. I'm in a classified setting. I don't wanna cross over and disclose classified information but there are certain shapes consistently that are unexplained. Which is fascinating.”

The Pentagon was pushing back on the idea that some of the reports relate to off-world technology. Sabrina Singh, the DoD Deputy Press Secretary said, “To date the department has discovered no verifiable evidence of extraterrestrial beings, activities or technology.”

This is, of course, the same song and dance that we have heard since 1947 when flying saucers entered the public consciousness. There were classified investigations and a near constant claim about the lack of crash recovered debris, which would answer some of the questions.

In contrast to that bleak statement, AARO’s director, Dr. Jon Kosloski has said, “There are interesting cases that I, with my physics and engineering background and time in the intelligence community, do not understand and I don’t know anybody else who understands.”

There have been more statements by officials that tell us nothing, other than to suggest that there is no reason for concern. One Pentagon spokesman said that many of the drone sightings were actually commercial and private aircraft that have been misidentified as drones. Of course, there are videos and photographs that prove that many the reports of drones are actually drones and many are flying in violation of the FAA regulations about drones. And we have the report of 600 sightings made over several months.

We now learn that California and Oregon have had there own troubles with these incursions. You can listen to one pilot’s report of seeing something strange here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UppitJ6E9tM&t=21s

I could go on, but I think the point is made. These sorts of activities have been going on for years with no real governmental or official response. There has been little in the way of investigation or interception of them. I’m not sure why the Pentagon has been unable to bring down some samples of these drones. All they do is tell us that these flights are not controlled by our adversaries in the world, they have suggested that they can’t jam the radio frequencies being used by the drones, and they seem to be able to evade our attempts to get our hands on one. This strikes me as another indication of our inability to properly respond to what is an obvious threat to our national security. We talk, we worry, but we do nothing other than provide weak statements suggesting there is nothing to worry about.

Given the response of the government, it is possible to believe that they do know what is going on. They tell us that it of no importance to national security, which makes no sense, unless they understand what is happening and actually do know the source of the drones. Their response screams that they do have the answers. It’s just they can’t do anything about it of maybe that they don’t want to. Getting a drone would generate more questions and it is clear to me, they simply don’t want to answer any of them. 

Maury Island and National Geographic

The other night I was doing what I call a “video lap.” This is sitting with the remote in one hand and checking out the programming on the stations. I found, on the National Geographic channel a documentary on “Mysterious Islands,” which might or might not by the precise title. It was a bout islands that have something mysterious having happened there.

What caught my attention was a mention of Maury Island. As we all know, meaning those of us have been around the UFO field for a long time, the Maury Island sighting was described by Captain Edward Ruppelt, one-time chief of Project Blue Book, as “the dirtiest hoax in UFO history,” or something like that.

Captain Edward Ruppelt

Naturally, I stopped on that channel, fearing what I was going to see. Now, I understand that those reporting on these sightings, often don’t have the time to take a long, hard look at a case and can’t get beyond the surface. Or, they find what they want to find based on the bias of the documentary and quit their research.

Yes, they provided a look at the surface, suggested that this was an important UFO case that resulted in the recovery of metallic debris from a damaged UFO, and ultimately ended with the death of two Army Air Forces officers. Only mentioned briefly was the fact that one of the participants later said that it was a hoax. It was clear from the context that we could dismiss this claim.

Rather than go through all this again, I have written about it at length in Crash: When UFOs Fall from the Sky. I had the time to do complete research, had the chance to talk with those who had investigated the case in the past, and reviewed many documents relating to the sighting. What that means, simply, is that I did the sort of deep research that those now reporting on Maury Island, didn’t do. I did post a long article on this blog and you can read it here:

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2010/07/maury-island-ufo-crash.html

Yes, I periodically review cases such as this to learn if there is anything new to learn about it. I have found nothing today that would change my mind. I still believe it to be a hoax. To me, that seems to underline the truth. But we still must deal with new documentaries that don’t provide a complete picture. This is one of those cases that should be reduced to nothing more than a footnote. 

Committee on Oversight and Accountability Meeting November 13

Yes, I sat through the two hours and fifteen minutes (there about) of the Committee on Oversight and Accountability meeting about what is going on in the world of UAP. In the opening remarks by Nancy Mace, we are told that UAP demand attention (with which I think we all agree). Quoting a Colonel Carl, she said that there were non-humans interacting with us and that high-ranking people knew it. That is a somewhat provocative statement with which to open the hearing. You can watch the hearing here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT2iWKZr0qA

Robert Garcia told us that the Main Stream Media is taking the matter seriously, or more seriously than in the past. He also noted that the hearings were about getting at the truth.

There were those on the committee who told us other things that we all knew. We were told that the allegations by David Grusch have not been verified. Although Garcia didn’t elaborate, he was referring to the claim that there had been twelve crash retrievals. We are told that some of the committee members, maybe all of them, want more legislation for the study of UAP and we all know how well congressional legislation has been in helping us get at the truth in the past.

I noticed that we get some history, or rather a mention of history when Jared Moskowitz said that investigations went back to 1945, which is probably a reference to the Foo Fighters of the Second World War.

Once all the members had a chance to make statements, the emphasis switched to the witnesses that were retired Rear Admiral Timothy Gallaudet, Lue Elizondo, Michael Shellenberger and Michael Gold. They were asked, in turn they thought of the UAP situation and all suggested something outside of our technological abilities existed, but not that it was necessarily from alien visitation.

Swearing in of the witnesses. From left to right Rear Admiral Timothy Gallaudet,
Lue Elizondo, Michael Shellenberger and Michael Gold.

Gallaudet said that while serving in the Navy, in a large-scale exercise, he received an email about the intrusion of unknown craft that seemed to be a danger to that exercise, specifically, the aviation assets that were being employed. The email, from a higher authority, wondered if there was some secret project, to which he knew nothing that might account for these intrusions and if they continued, they would cancel the exercise. Gallaudet said that the next day, the email was gone and in the after-action briefings, that concern was never mentioned… And, now, as far as I know, based on the testimony, there are no copies of the email offered in evidence.

I hadn’t expected much in this hearing, but Lue Elizondo did make several comments that were interesting. He said that UAP were real and that the US was in possession of UAP material, though he didn’t specify what that material might be, and that some foreign nations also had access to some form of alien material.

Once they got beyond the opening statements which seemed to include most of the free world, each member in attendance was given five minutes to ask questions or to pontificate. Here is where I thought we might get into the nuts and bolts of the situation but that somehow evaded us.

In the questions address to Gallaudet, especially those about the intrusions during the exercise, we learned nothing new. His answers to some of those questions was that he was prohibited from talking about specifics in a public forum. He would answer them in a closed session.

We had a similar experience with Elizondo. He mentioned that those answers he could give were in his book, which had been in review by officials in the Pentagon for more than year before it was published. He said there were crash retrievals, but he would only talk about them in a closed session.

Later in the hearings, Elizondo would mention bodies. He said bodies were collected before he was born. I believe this is a vague reference to the Roswell case, which is from July 1947. But he would also say that he couldn’t talk about retrievals in an open session.

Shellenberger, who was the source of the information about Immaculate Constellation, said that he trusted his sources on that information, but he wouldn’t reveal them. He said that were either still in he government or had been in the government, but not in which agencies they have worked. He also said that his sources had told him that the government was sitting on piles of information about UAP, including high resolution photographs and other material. But he wouldn’t say who these sources were, only that they were credible, based on his knowledge of who they were and his checking out their backgrounds.

Gold provided a good answer on why some of this information has been hidden. It could expose weaknesses in our capability to respond to the threats. That would be information that our adversaries in the world would want to have.

Update: Shellenberger had provided a document about Immaculate Constellation to the committee members prior to the beginning of the session. Thanks to Nancy Mace, you can read that document here:

https://mace.house.gov/immaculateconstellation 

There is one point that I should make and here is probably the best place. There was a discussion that military personnel had been injured by UFOs and that those people were being compensated for those injuries. Once again, no names were offered, but I thought immediately of John Burroughs who had been injured during the Rendlesham Forest events of December 1980.

I also know of others who claimed they were injured by UFOs, including Betty Cash and Vickie Landrum, coincidentally during their sighting of a glowing, diamond-shaped object also in December 1980. Neither of the women were compensated by the government.

This provides a short rundown on what went on in those two hours and fifteen minutes of hearing. When one committee member said that those on the committee who wanted additional information and didn’t know where to begin to look for it (and I sympathize with them on that point), he was told that the information could be discussed in a closed session.

My problem was that we learned nothing new, there were no sources named or documents presented, other than one that was so heavily redacted that it was useless*, and all the information was second hand at best. I have said before and I’ll say it again, Don Schmitt, Tom Carey and I have talked to the men and women who had first-hand knowledge. We can name names and have taped, both audio and video, of these witnesses.

There were some positives that came out of the hearing. I mean, here was a hearing about UAP with suggestions of an off-world presence, observed technology that was beyond our means to create, an interest in the topic by the Main Stream Media that was not wrapped in ridicule, and a suggestion that an unbiased, scientific investigation was needed.  

The members of the committee seemed to be interested in the topic and were searching for answers rather than attempting to misrepresent the situation and taking the discussion into areas that have nothing to do with the problem. All the witnesses, who were under oath, when asked, answered that they believed, based on their person experiences that the answer was alien visitation or that they didn’t know what the answer might be. There didn’t seem to be anyone who ridiculed the idea that we have been visited alien creatures.

There was a suggestion that the stigma be removed from reporting of UAP because, to solve the problem, the information must be received by those who can use it. If people are afraid to report what they have seen or experienced, then no research can be conducted and we solve no problems.

In reality, this hearing was what I expected, long on suggestion but short on evidence. Too many times, the answer to a specific question was that the witness couldn’t talk about it in an open hearing, or that his sources would not be revealed. There was nothing that we, on the outside, could do to learn more, no real cases that we could study because we don’t have the necessary information, and a little too much speculation. I can’t say that I was disappointed in the hearing because I didn’t expect it to reveal very much.

Or, as my good friend from Operation Iraqi Freedom would say after many staff meetings, “There is two hours and fifteen minutes that I won’t get back.”

*Stan Friedman used to show a heavily redacted report that contained only one or two words per page. When the whole document was eventually released, we learned it had little to do with UFO research and a great deal to do with intelligence collections methods. 

Immaculate Constellation, Moon Dust, and Sean Kirkpatrick

 

There have been several interesting developments recently into what the officials insist are UAP reports and what we still think of as UFOs. All this provides us, indirectly, with additional information about Immaculate Constellation and ongoing covert investigations.

According to Matthew Phelan, the Senior Science Reporter for the Daily Mail, Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, who was until recently the man in charge of AARO, revealed what he described as a new government program to recover alleged alien technology in the event of a shoot down. I believe he mentioned shoot down in reference to the Chinese balloon that flew over a great deal of North America recently. I don’t think he was referring to shooting down an alien spacecraft, though in the 1950s, there were orders to do just that.

Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick at a poorly attended Senate Hearing. He is sitting
with his back to the camera.

Anyway, the retrieval program’s protocols covered what he called UAP recoveries that ranged from balloons to alien technology. This, it was claimed, is the first time that a government official acknowledged any UFO retrieval program, even if that retrieval program referred to terrestrially manufactured objects. He suggested the retrieval program began early in 2023.

But there was a program called Moon Dust that began in 1957, according to documents recovered by Robert Todd, Cliff Stone and me, that had, as one of its missions, and I quote, “to collect and analyze raw intelligence reports from the field of fallen space debris and objects of unknown origin.” Unknown origin certainly could refer to craft from off world.

The late Cliff  Stone.

I found this information in an official US Air Force Message, #54322 and dated December 23, 1957. Although it doesn’t mention Moon Dust specifically, it is clear from the document that it is describing Moon Dust and the Moon Dust mission involving UFO information.

Kirkpatrick said, “AARO is Congressionally directed to come up with not just standard reporting procedures, but also mitigation and response procedures in the event of a shoot down or a collection of any sort of UAP.”

But, as earlier documentation proves, that sort of mandate had already been put into place and despite Air Force original denials that no program known as Moon Dust existed, the documentation proved otherwise. And for those who claim that its mission was directed at recovering what was then Soviet debris, the mention of unknown origin suggests otherwise. You can read more about Moon Dust in my book, Project Moon Dust and here:

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2021/04/coast-to-coast-am-moon-dust-controversy.html

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2024/06/moon-dust-documents-online.html

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2024/03/aaro-and-project-moon-dust.html

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2018/04/moon-dust-and-4602nd-aiss.html

I should point out here, that I can demonstrate the UFO connection to Moon Dust. While examining the Project Blue Book files several years ago, I found reference to Moon Dust cases. The cases are not very impressive, but are important because they are labeled “Moon Dust” and reinforce the theory that Moon Dust had a UFO component. You can read about that here:

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2013/11/project-moon-dust-revisited.html

I want to acknowledge that the Air Force, when asked about Moon Dust by US Senator Jeff Bingaman from New Mexico, the Air Force response was that no such program existed. When documents, with a clear and established provenance were provided, the Air Force amended the statement claimed that it did exist, but had never been deployed. That was not true as other documents proved. There was an added note that the name Moon Dust had been changed and it was properly classified. That was in 1985. From that point on, there had been no inadvertent disclosures about this program.

There is another, important point. There no evidence that this program under whatever the new name it had been given, had been terminated. We can’t use FOIA because we don’t know the name in use after Moon Dust, and Immaculate Constellation didn’t begin until years after this other long ongoing program was discovered. Immaculate Constellation is not a follow-on project, but a new one invented by those now charged with UAP research.

But you have to wonder if this new program doesn’t have a secondary purpose and that is to disguise what had been learned under Moon Dust and that follow-on project. You don’t look for another program if you have been told that this is something that began in 2023.

While these government officials who have just been tasked with dealing with UAP, who have tried to sever this new investigation from the history of UFO research, and seem to be disinterested in that earlier history, aren’t attempting to sidetrack legitimate questions about alien visitation. They’re looking at it as a new phenomenon rather than something that it over eighty years old. They don’t need to worry about the massive stacks of evidence that was accumulated prior to 2017 when the Leslie Kean and Ralph Fromental story was published by the New York Times. That earlier information is hidden behind a thick national security wall and what we are allowed to see now just doesn’t have the impact of some of those earlier UFO events.

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