True Photos of the Roswell crash site (Taken much later than 1947)

The Internet has been circling pictures that are supposed to be from the Roswell UFO crash site. (Okay, I know it is a human behind in and not the Internet). There are very few people who have been on both sites. Tom Carey, Don Schmitt and me are among that rather small group. This means that I can say, with little fear of contradiction, those pictures are not from the Roswell site. The terrain is wrong.

Both real sites are more open. This is high desert so that isn’t a lot of sand as many people believe. I’m not sure where those pictures were taken, but certainly not on either the debris field or the impact site.

Following are pictures taken on both sites… Long after the events of 1947. I took some of them myself, and others, using my camera took some of them. I mention that only because I’m in some of the pictures.

Tom Carey, center, on the Debris Field as identified by
by Bill Brazel in the early 1990s.

Don Schmitt on the right, Tim Saunders, center and me 
on the other end, standing on the Impact Site. This
gives a somewhat limited view of the site.

Don and me on the Impact Site. You can see the  open
nature of the ground behind us.

You can see for yourselves the wide-open nature of those areas. For those interested, they are either on BLM (Bureau of Land Management) land or private property.

As I say, there is so much circulating on the Internet that is inaccurate, I thought I should correct that one small segment. 

Restoring Public Trust through UAP Transparency and Whistleblower Protection - An Analysis

 Well, that was a colossal waste of time. There was nothing there that we haven’t seen before. Oh, don’t get me wrong, a few nuggets dropped, but I don’t think many picked them up.

I’m talking about the “Restoring Public Trust through UAP Transparency and Whistleblower Protection,” hearing. That long title tells us little about what we witnessed as Congressional representatives, led by Anna Paulina Luna, talked about the importance of transparency and the courage of those who had come forward to tell us tales that are basically unsupported by additional witnesses or evidence gathered through instrumentality such as radar and other sensor arrays.

Just last week, I reported on a man who appeared in the documentary Age of Disclosure. He said that he had seen non-human craft and non-human bodies. One of the representatives at this meeting, Eric Burlison was so unimpressed by this revelation that he mentioned he wasn’t interested in talking with Jay Stratton. I believed that when it as announced that first-hand witnesses would be interrogated at this hearing, we would be hearing from other first-hand sources about their encounters with those non-human aliens and description of close-up examination of those non-human craft.

After having to listen to the opening statements by Luna and Representative Jasmine Crockett, which told us more about her political bias than it did about alien visitation, we got down to the witnesses. Not one of them talked about first-hand experience that involved those non-human aliens. They didn’t talk about seeing the bodies rumored to have been stored at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, or at the now closed Lowry Air Force Base near Denver. They had personal sightings or some experience in the government that dealt with whistleblowers or George Knapp, who managed to see Soviet and now Russian files on their UFO investigations.

Representative Anna Paulina Luna, committee chair.

I will note that Representative Luna was not overly impressed with the former head of AARO, Sean Kirkpatrick. She called him a documented liar and believed he dismissed all evidence that might suggest that UFOs were nothing more than Earth-based technology or misidentifications without proper investigation. In other arenas she said that he blocked information and discredited witnesses. She was responding to Kirkpatrick’s claim calling the hearings a parade of “charlatans and grifters.” This suggested a somewhat open hostility by Kirkpatrick to the idea of alien visitation which was the problem with Project Blue Book until it was closed in 1969. That is, a long list of those in charge of Blue Book rejected the idea of alien visitation out of hand with no regard to any evidence presented to the contrary.

The hearing room with the witnesses standing to take their oath.

At this latest hearing, there was Jeff Nuccetelli, who is an Air Force veteran who had a role in the investigation of a mass UFO sightings at Vandenberg AFB beginning in 2003. Yes, he saw a strange craft and he spoke with the witnesses and gathered evidence of the sightings there. His sighting wasn’t particularly impressive but it was a first-hand account.

Alexandro Wiggins, a former Navy Chief Petty Officer, talked about his sighting on the USS Jackson in 2023, that involved all sorts of instrumentality. He saw four glowing objects come out of the ocean and take off into the sky without breaking formation. A somewhat better documented case but didn’t involve a close-up view of alien bodies or those craft that shot out of the ocean.

Dylan Borland, who tells us about harassment by government officials, including the loss of his job as a Geospatial Intelligence Analyst for the Air Force. That was a result of his sighting of glowing triangle that took off from Langley AFB. Although there were no other witnesses because of the late hour, the close approach of the UFO caused his cell phone to fail. After he reported his sighting, his life and career took a dramatic turn. He lost his job and can’t find another in his field of expertise. For those paying attention, apparently his unemployment benefits are going to expire in just a few weeks.

And then there was Joe Spielberger, who was described as the Senior Policy Counsel with the Project On Government Oversight, known as POGO. He wasn’t there to talk about a first-hand UFO sighting or an observation of those rumored alien bodies, but to talk about whistleblowers and the way the government operates when dealing with them. If he had any first-hand knowledge of UFOs (like Representative Burkett, I don’t like UAP) he never mentioned it.

Here’s where the hearing, at least for me, slipped off the rails. Not one of the witnesses had any first-hand knowledge of alien creatures. Those who had seen craft, were talking about watching something anomalous in the atmosphere and not the remains of a wrecked, well, flying saucer. They were witnesses to their own sightings, often without the benefit, for the most part, of corroborating witnesses or electronic data.

It was George Knapp’s talk of his investigations in Russia that caught my attention. I’m not sure if others caught it, but he talked of a Russian colonel who told him about an intrusion at a Russian missile base that knocked out the base’s ability to respond, if necessary, to an attack by another nation. I found this interesting because of the 1967 intrusion on one of the missile fields controlled by Malmstrom Air Force Base. A large glowing disc seemed to knockout one and possibly two flights of missiles. According to the theory of the time, an outside force taking the missiles off-line is something that was supposed to be impossible. Our Air Force claimed that it was some sort of technical glitch such as an EMP, but that would have taken out more than just the missiles. Knapp did mention that the Russians didn’t spring the EMP excuse on him as the source of the problem. It was something off-world.

George Knapp talking about a Russian 
missile site intrusion.

For those might be interested in more about the Malmstrom Air Force Base intrusion, see:

https://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2020/12/coast-to-coast-belt-montana-ufo-sighting.html

https://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2025/06/aaro-uap-wall-street-journal-somewhat.html

There is some duplication of information in these two postings, but they provide a good analysis of those sightings and the activity around Belt, Montana at the time. There are other links embedded in those articles.

The other point is that each of the men telling their whistleblower tales, talked about harassment by government officials, careers that were derailed, loss of security clearances and therefore income, and now having reputations that suggest they are less than reliable keeping them from finding other work.

Okay, much of that was somewhat interesting, but we’ve heard all this before by others. We have heard impressive first-hand reports of UFOs and we have heard about the suppression of the information. Just watch Close Encounters of the Third Kind when the air traffic controllers ask the pilots of an airliner if they want to report their UFO sighting. They say, “No,” telling us that there is a price to pay for saying they have seen a UFO. I could list several pilots who have found themselves grounded after reporting UFOs and few return to the cockpit. Just ask Captain Kenju Terauchi of JAL 1628 about his experiences after reporting a UFO.

We were treated to another video was what has been called a drone flying near US Naval vessels. That drone was attacked by a hellfire missile and we see the impact but moments later, the drone, apparently undamaged flies away at highspeed. An interesting bit of video that was kept under wraps for months and tends to support the theory of alien technology. This was not the first report of an attempted intercept that failed. At one point, orders had been issued to fighter pilots to shoot down a UFO.

One frame from the video showing the UFO after it
had been hit by a hellfire missile.

Even with that video, I was disappointed because I thought we might get to learn who some of those first-hand witnesses to alien bodies might be. David Grusch talked about them months ago but we still don’t know who they are. (I was going to say that we have no clue, but I believe I do have clues about who they are.) You can see my long list of Grusch’s sources here:

https://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2024/04/david-grusch-and-his-ufo-crashes.html

I will note one other thing. I reported last week on Coast-to-Coast AM that Eric Burlison was unimpressed with Jay Stratton, who claimed to have seen non-human bodies. Burlison made a couple of comments that suggested he was pretending to have an open mind on the subject but it was clear to me he was on the far side of the fence. Apparently, he didn’t want someone who would claim to have seen non-human bodies to testify in front of a congressional committee. That might be a reason that the Roswell case was ignored.

And I can’t close this rather limited and quick analysis without making one other comment. “Roswell.” Here is the case that would break this all wide open. Don Schmitt, Tom Carey and I have spoken with many first-hand witnesses to the alien nature of the crash, we have gathered some interesting written evidence, and have statements from the children of the witnesses, including Jesse Marcel, Jr., whose father was the Air Intelligence Officer at the Roswell Army Air Field during those days in early July 1947. That’s not to mention that Marcel had talks with his father about what he had seen. Jesse Jr. also handled some of that strange metallic debris collected by his father. Yes, those witnesses have passed, but we have written and audio and videotaped interviews with those claiming first-hand knowledge of non-human entities and craft.

My take away from this hearing was that nothing has changed. Here we are, years down the road, and while Congress is expressing an interest in the topic, they have had yet to get to the heart of the matter. Sightings by sincere witnesses who have nothing other than their tales of seeing the unusual craft. Stories of government harassment to keep them quiet and a still somewhat skeptical press that refuses to spend any time digging for more information… Sorry, George, I don’t include you in with those who wink at the tales of alien visitation. You have put in the work.

The point is, we are now decades down this road and we are doing the same thing we have done before. We even had a “scientific” study of UFOs by scientists at the University of Colorado, who fifty years ago told us there was nothing to UFO sightings and it was a waste of time and money to continue the investigations. This was accepted as gospel. This latest round of interest in UFOs proves that their conclusions were wrong.

How long will this charade last? Are we really on the road to Disclosure, or are we being set up for another eventually conclusion there is nothing alien about UFO sightings? We can then spend another fifty years wondering about the truth because we don’t have it yet.

Roswell and the Dog that Didn't Bark

Here’s an interesting revelation. I was watching the recent Unsolved Mysteries report on the Roswell case and Colonel Richard Weaver said something that caught my attention. He was talking about having reviewed a million documents and files and miles of microfilm during his review of the Roswell case. The implication is that they, meaning he and his team, had made a Herculean effort to find evidence and failed do it. His conclusion, based on his investigation, was the correct conclusion but it wasn’t accurate.

Don Schmitt, Tom Carey and I had done the same thing, and I could name a couple of dozen others who had followed leads, researched specific aspects of the Roswell case and in the end, there was limited documentation mainly in the form of newspaper stories and the testimony of hundreds of people who had first or second-hand observations. In other words, the documentation was limited, the testimonies were called anecdotal, and we all had searched for documentation and other testimony for nearly forty years for it.

And then I had a thought. I had made a comprehensive search for mention of Roswell and documents relating to it in what could be considered the microcosm of Weaver’s world and search, of Project Blue Book. Although it had officially begun as Project Sign in January 1948, its records begin earlier, even with sightings that pre-dated the Kenneth Arnold sighting of June 24, 1947. In fact, the earliest dated case in the Blue Book files is from June 2. When you look at the record of sightings for July 1947, they cover a single-spaced page. The military was investigating what was happening during the summer that preceded the creation of the official investigation in 1948.

When the Army announced, on July 8, 1947, that they had found a flying saucer, it was international news. I will say that nearly every newspaper in the United States covered the story in some form, beginning with the early announcement on the afternoon of July 8 and ending the next day when Brigadier General Roger Ramey announced it was just a weather balloon. Pictures of Ramey, his chief of staff, Colonel Thomas Dubose, and Major Jesse Marcel, holding pieces of the weather balloon, were printed in the newspapers the next day.

BG Roger Ramey and COL Thomas Dubose with
the balloon wreckage that served as a
cover for the real wreckage.

There are stories of crashed UFOs in the Blue Book files in July 1947. The solutions, all legitimate, ranged from advertising gimmicks to small saucers created to fool friends. A report, from Shreveport, Louisiana, even came to the attention of then FBI director, J. Edgar Hoover. That caused us a great deal of aggravation as we tried to reconcile a note written on an FBI document by Hoover with that report. It had nothing to do with the Roswell case. The file for that case, dated July 7, 1947, is quite thick. And no, I believe the military was correct in labeling it a hoax.

The point here is that by July 8, the military was gathering sighting reports and there are 47 cases for the month in what are now the Blue Book files. There are alleged crashes, files that are labeled as “Folders,” because of the thickness of the file, and many in which there is a notation for a report but labeled as “case missing.”

What I noticed is several crash reports, comprehensive investigations, and an apparent real effort to determine what was going on. All this happening with the “high profile” cases that were extensively investigated and not a single file dedicated to the Roswell case. Here was the story that probably generated some of the highest interest around the world and there is no file on it. The only reference I can find in the Blue Book files is the third paragraph of a four-paragraph story that mentions, in passing, that the officers at Roswell had received a “blistering rebuke” for their claim they had a flying disk.

Colonel Weaver had access to a great deal more official information than any of the civilian researchers and said that he found nothing. I say, I looked through the Blue Book files, which I’m sure were reviewed by Weaver’s team, and they found nothing there either. It made me wonder why a great deal of effort was expended investigating many reports from July 1947, but there is no reference to what could be called the most important story from July 1947. A single mention in a newspaper clipping buried in another Blue Book file but nothing that referenced Roswell specifically.

Doesn’t my search, of the Blue Book files, mirror the research done in the 1990s by the Air Force? There should have been a rather thick file on the Roswell case that included not only newspaper clippings, but the pictures of three of the principals in that case. True, the balloon explanation was floated (pun intended) within about three hours of the initial story, but it was a story of international interest. Walter Haut, the Public Information Officer in Roswell at the time, told me that he received telephone calls from around the world.

Walter Haut being interviewed.
Photo by Kevin Randle.

But there is nothing in the files except that one paragraph in a newspaper clipping. I did ask Haut about that blistering rebuke and he told me that it never happened. His words were something to the effect that if he’d been called by the Pentagon and chewed out, he would remember it.

Again, my point is that a search of the Blue Book files, which were dedicated to gathering UFO information, has nothing about Roswell. It was a case filled with military officers which means it was originally reported officially, but there is no file. Why the emphasis on other reports of crashes and other generic sightings but nothing on what was the biggest UFO story for two days in July? Sure, had it been included in Blue Book, it would have been labeled as a balloon, but that isn’t there. Nothing…

Just as Colonel Weaver found with his inside sources, high-level security clearance and his orders that came, virtually, from the Secretary of the Air Force, no documents relating to Roswell, I found nothing in the declassified Blue Book files. It should have been there, but it was not.

One final comment about all this. For those who would argue that the secrecy was to protect Project Mogul, I point to the newspapers, especially the Alamogordo News, on July 10. There was a long article about the balloon project being carried out at the Alamogordo Army Air Field. Pictures showed a Mogul array (and no, they didn’t call it a Mogul array in the article), explained what they were doing and what it all meant. Charles Moore, one of those working on the project told me that he had bought the ladder that was featured in one of the pictures.

Alamogordo News with pictures of a Constant Level Balloon launch, which
is a Project Mogul balloon launch published on July 10, 1947.

This means, of course, that what was happening in Alamogordo was not highly classified. The balloon launches were conducted by the civilians from the University of New York attempting to create what they called a Constant Level Balloon, meaning it would remain at a certain altitude. Although offered as the solution in 1947, it did not explain what had been found. I have already, many times, explained this about the Mogul solution, the one that the Air Force used to solve the mystery of what fell decades after the fact.

I found Colonel Weaver’s comment on the Unsolved Mysteries show quite telling. There should have been specific documentation that lead to the constant level balloons but not back to Project Mogul. The search would have ended with the balloons from Alamogordo. By the mid-1990s, Mogul was no longer a secret, and several UFO researchers were aware of it. We all had been talking about it for years before the Air Force came up with it as the solution for the Roswell case.

Weaver’s comment, about finding nothing is quite telling. The significant fact, as Sherlock Holmes said in the murder case he was investigating, was that the dog didn’t bark. The significance fact here is as Weaver said he found nothing about the Roswell case in all those files both classified and unclassified. This lack of results screams the problem, because there should have been something given the impact of the original news release and widespread interest in the tale. You might say that this is another example of the dog not barking. *

 

*I thought a note of explanation might be necessary for those who haven’t read the Holmes story. There was a murder committed, and Holmes was investigating. All thought it might be a stranger, but Holmes said that the watch dog didn’t bark. It meant that the murder was someone the dog knew, so it didn’t bark.