Showing posts with label Oskar Linke. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Oskar Linke. Show all posts

Friday, December 25, 2020

Coast to Coast - More Occupant Reports

 

I’ve talked with colleagues about the lack of good, robust reports for the last decade or so. Rob Swiatek of MUFON mentioned this same thing just the other day was we were discussing sightings that involved alien beings. He said that other than abduction cases, there rarely were descriptions of the entities.

This wasn’t always true. In the United States, an occupant sighting was reported to the Air Force but had been routed through the CIA in 1952. It included the description of the alien creatures seen in connection with some sort of alien craft. According to Dr. J. Allen Hynek, the information came from a former mayor of

Dr. J. Allen Hynek

Gleimershausen, close to West Berlin and was filtered through intelligence officers, though it wasn’t specified whose officers they were. Hynek reported the story came originally from a Greek newspaper on July 9, 1952. The date of the sighting, according to other research and documentation, was June 17, 1950. Hynek accepted the report at face value and indicated it was in the Project Blue Book files, but I was unable to confirm this as I began my research.

 

There are a number of others who have also attempted to find the reference in the Blue Book files but have failed to locate it. This suggestion that it was in Blue Book has been repeated a number of times. The problem for all of us is that it is not found under the proper date or the proper location. It is found in March 1952, and is listed as “Additional Reported Sightings (Not Cases),” and is listed as Hasselbach, Saxsoni. It is case 1087 in the Blue Book index. This explains why it had been so difficult to locate but ultimately, I found it in the Blue Book files.

 

The witness, Oskar Linke (He is frequently identified in various publications as Oscar as opposed to Oskar) and his eleven-year-old daughter Gabriella, provided sworn testimony in front of a West German notary, Dr. Oskar Krause, which seemed to have inspired the intelligence officers and a number of newspaper reporters to investigate further. According to some accounts, Linke was said to have described the object as “resembling a huge flying [sic] pan.” Better translations of the original German suggested he said it was an “oval warming pan,” which doesn’t have a handle. It was about fifteen meters (50 feet) in diameter and landed in a forest clearing in what was then East Germany.

 

He told the notary, during his sworn statement, “While I was returning to my home with Gabriella, the tire on my motorcycle blew out near the town of Hasselbach…. Gabriella pointed out something that lay at a distance about a hundred and forty meters away… since it was twilight, I thought she was pointing at a young deer.”

 

He said that he had left his motorcycle near a tree and walked into the forest. As he approached the object, which he now realized was not a deer but two “men who were not more than forty meters away… They seemed to be dressed in shiny, heavy metallic clothing... like people wear in polar regions.” They were stooped over and were looking at something laying on the ground.” He later said that one of the men had a lamp on the “front part of his body which lit up at regular intervals.” This sort of description would be reported in other cases such as the Brooksville, Florida, case more than a decade and a half later.

 

Linke continued to walk toward the men and until he was about thirty feet from them. He watched the two men as they seemed to communicate with one another with hand and arm gestures. He couldn’t hear them speaking or making any sound. He would later say he wasn’t sure if the figures were human or humanoid. In response to a question asked by Dr. Leon Davidson who interviewed him about the sighting, he said, “It is difficult to say whether the two forms who stood in front of the object and then flew off were men. I would say they could also have been other creatures since their (manner of) locomotion was a glide, similar to that of bears.”

 

He noticed the UFO looked like a warming pan with two rows of holes along the side, about twelve to fifteen inches in circumference. The space between the holes was about eighteen inches. There was a black, conning tower like that of a submarine on top that was ten feet high.

 

Linke said that at that point, as he had reached the ridge and was lying on the ground watching, his daughter called to him because he had been gone for about twenty-five minutes. The two men jumped at the sound of the girl’s voice. They disappeared inside the conning tower. The side of the object that had holes had opened and began to glitter. It was a green that turned red and at the same time there was a hum. Some have interpreted these lights as flames on the side which might have given rise to Gabriella’s description of a “ring of fire.” As the brightness and the hum increased dramatically, the tower began to slide down into the center of the object and the whole craft began to rise, spinning like a top.

 

There was a cylinder at the bottom, according to what Linke said. As it hovered a few feet off the ground, surrounded by that ring of flames, the cylinder on the bottom disappeared into the craft and then reappeared on the top. As the rate of climb increased, Linke and daughter heard a whistling sound, like that of falling bombs. It then turned toward a neighboring town, continuing to climb and as it disappeared.

 

Others who lived in the area said that they had seen the object in flight but thought it was a comet or meteor. Georg Derbst, a shepherd said that he was about a mile and a half from Linke’s position when he thought he saw a comet bounce off the earth.”

 

A sawmill watchman, whose name has been lost, told Linke that he had seen what he thought was a low flying comet. It flashed away from the hill where Linke and Gabriella had seen the object.

 

Like the Zamora case in 1964, Linke said that he went over to where the craft had been and there found “a circular opening in the ground and it was quite evident that it was freshly dug. It was exactly the shape of the conical tower.” He found physical evidence of the passing of the UFO but there wasn’t any real investigation of the landing site.

 

Lonnie Zamora

And like Zamora, his original thought was that he had seen some new Soviet craft rather than something that had been made on another planet. He said, “I confess that I was seized with fright because the Soviets do not want anyone to know about their work.” In fact, he was so frightened by this prospect that he said nothing about any of it until he had defected to the west with his family years later. He suggested that the final motivation for his defection was his fear of the Soviet reaction if they learned what he had seen in the forest.

 

The problem here, of course, is that the Hynek claimed that this had been part of Project Blue Book. Neither he nor any member of the Blue Book team would have had the opportunity to interview the witness or his daughter given that at the time of the sighting they lived behind the Iron Curtain in East Germany. Hynek’s information clearly came from the CIA document, but it is unclear why he thought it part of the main Blue Book file. The CIA document, according to him was originally classified as secret, which meant that storage of it required a safe. Most of the Blue Book material was unclassified and didn’t require a safe.

 

Hynek offered no real analysis of the report. He wrote, “One of the more interesting but isolated Air Force ‘Unidentifieds’ came to Blue Book in the form of a (then) secret CIA Document.” It suggests that the CIA thought the case interesting, but it could be that the CIA agent who found the newspaper article about the landing forwarded it because it dealt with UFOs and the possible observation of alien beings. There is nothing to suggest the CIA connection was anything more than forwarding the report and the classification might have been nothing more than a protection for the transmission system rather than an evaluation of the sighting suggesting an importance to the case that it did not deserve. At any rate, Hynek thought enough of it to publish the information and others have looked into sporadically. It is not one of the major cases in the UFO literature, though it seems to be more reliable than so many others.

A sighting from a witness from Cookson, Oklahoma on August 25, 2017 is also fairly robust. The witness reported, “…at approximately 8:30 PM we were … a few miles south of Napeezi, New Mexico... Out of nowhere I saw a light flash in front of me... I instinctively looked to my left and I saw 2 creatures setting about 2 foot apart, and very bright craft which was at my eye level while setting in the [RV]… The craft did not appear to have a windshield. The panel in behind the creatures gave off a very bright light, as did the floor and ceiling. …The guy on my left had [a] gopher looking hand … The craft seemed to swing and rotate from the shoulder on the other side to a lane away was at my side and maybe 20 foot away. Once they rotated enough that their faces were 180% to us, he saw us and disappeared…

Both individuals had a skin tone … white. They had large heads in an upside-down teardrop shape, very large black eyes, a small mouth and 2 small holes for a nose. There were holes for the ears but only a nub for ears. ... The one on the right had a very smooth face. The one on the left appeared to be older with facial lines. The one on my left wrinkled his right side of his mouth when he saw me, but they were talking when we interrupted them. I made eye contact with the one on my left and looked directly into his large black eye. His eye was the finest surface I had ever seen. The eye had no abrasions or scratches, no dust or mucus.  I noticed that under the surface of this perfectly clear outer surface of the eye was a grid of many individual eyes… like a fly’s eyes ... Their bodies where skinny and were illuminated with a greenish glowing uniform. The arms and the torso were slender and about the diameter of a very small child of 6 or 7 years of age. The hands reminded me of the shape of gophers. But these creatures are large in height and reach... Their torso was long and skinny and appeared to be weak...

In a case that is the exception to the rule. It was also listed in the NUFORC data base. Rob Swiatek provided this data. According to the report:

 

My wife and I do not want to be public with our names and who we are. It seems since you already have my phone number. I would like to ask you to be discreet with the information you have already compiled. I do not have good health and had a new heart valve put in last March. My wife and I are just a middle grandmother and grandfather. I’m a 100% disabled veteran since 2004. We are both 65 years of age. Please respect that?

On Aug. 25th, 2017, at approximately 8:30 PM my wife and I were looking forward to getting to a location where we could get settled in for the night. We were riding in our 37-foot Diesel Pusher at a speed of about 60 miles per hour, slightly downhill, travelling southeast on highway 550, and a few miles south of Napeezi, New Mexico. We had been talking about how the roads had changed 2 lanes to 4 lanes since the last time I had driven.

Out of nowhere I saw a light flash in front of me, it had come from my left. I instinctively looked to my left and I saw 2 creatures setting about 2 foot apart, very bright craft which was at my eye level while setting in the Motorhome. I instantly seemed to take a mind picture of what I was seeing. At that time, we were maybe 80 feet and gaining on their position. My first thought was is this real, the closer we got the more positive I was that what I was seeing was real when I made eye contact.

Some points I saw were: The craft did not appear to have a windshield. The panel in behind the creatures gave off a very bright light, as did the floor and ceiling. It was as bright as an operating room under full lighting. There was a small stem that came up from the floor in front of the creatures. It stood about 40 inches out of the floor. It seemed to support a small control panel that was thinner than a carton of cigarettes. The guy on my left had his gopher looking hand resting on it.

The moment I saw them, the individuals were looking down the road as if looking for something to arrive. There was a truck coming up the hill toward us and about a 1/8th of a mile away. The craft seemed to swing and rotate from the shoulder on the other side to a lane away was at my side and maybe 20 foot away. Once they rotated enough that their faces were 180% to us, he saw us and disappeared.

As we drove on down the hill, I looked in my mirrors and side camera and didn’t see anything related to them after that. A description of the creatures we witnessed: Both individuals had a skin tone about the same as mine, I’m a white male. They had large heads in an upside-down teardrop shape, very large black eyes, a small mouth and 2 small holes for a nose. There were holes for the ears but only a nub for ears. Very much like the drawing you would see in Roswell, accept not green, but green uniforms. The one on the right had a very smooth face. The one on the left appeared to be older with facial lines. The one on my left wrinkled his right side of his mouth when he saw me, but they were talking when we interrupted them.

 I made eye contact with the one on my left and looked directly into his large black eye. His eye was the finest surface I had ever seen. The eye had no abrasions or scratches, no dust or mucus.  I noticed that under the surface of this perfectly clear outer surface of the eye was a grid of many individual eyes, Like a fly’s eyes but much smoother super fine glass surface. Their bodies where skinny and were illuminated with a greenish glowing uniform. Also, there was roll type cuffs that also glowed, but was a beige. They reminded me of stick people. The arms and the torso were slender and about the diameter of a very small child of 6 or 7 years of age. The hands reminded me of the shape of gophers. But these creatures are large in height and reach, that hand appeared to me to be a lethal weapon. Their torso was long and skinny and appeared to be weak if depended on. But I believe the suit they wear is their body strength.

The back wall is very hard to explain because I believe however they traveled was behind that wall. The wall was very brightly illuminated. It appeared to be divided into about 18-inch cubes but wasn’t, it was a flat surface. The light seemed to be boiling along the edges of each panel in the colors of light greenish, blue, violet. But the power heaved with its changes it seemed. The back panel was incredibly beautiful and something I’ll never forget it. We could not see the outer body of the craft because we were looking into very bright light.

As for hearing anything I felt I heard them communicating when we approached. I wear hearing aids and they were stretching like a fax machine. I looked at Google maps at the location of the incident and found something interesting. Please look at the land above the cliff. It’s as if dozer work had been done. I have no idea what the bright object by the road might be. This could be something natural, but they turned and went somewhere. I added a drawing someone did that is similar to the creatures we saw. But the ones we saw did not have the body mass these do and the ones we saw were wearing uniforms that seemed have the ability to move and protect them. Although they were greenish, they had glow of energy about them. I hope you have taken time to consider what I shared with you. I would like to know what is going on there. I hope to go back and spend a month or 2 searching for them.

The point here is that although we do see a few, robust occupant cases, we simply don’t have them in the numbers or in the quality of the descriptions that we’ve had in the past. Just compare that short, six-to-eight-week period in the fall of 1973 with what we have today.

I have no explanation for this. It’s just an observation that does seem to be spread throughout the UFO phenomenon. The cases are not as good and the photographs are not as good and there seem to be fewer sightings that have good reported detail. This might be a misperception, or it might reflect a trend for the time being. Either way, we still have unexplained sightings and because of that we can continue to follow the evidence.

Sunday, December 25, 2016

Oskar Linke - Update


The thing about the Internet is that it allows you to communicate with people all over the country and all over the world which helps us get at the truth. For example, J. Allen Hynek said the Oskar Linke UFO landing story was in the Project Blue Book files, so I looked for it. Hynek dated the case as July 9, 1952, but other sources said the sighting was June 17, 1950. I searched the Blue Book index around those dates. July 1952 was a period of intense activity and while, at other times in other years, the index might feature all the sightings received during two or three months on a single page, in July 1952, single dates sometimes took up two pages. In other words, there were a lot of sightings in July 1952. I found nothing in June, July or August of that year that mentioned Linke and his UFO.

There was nothing for the sighting around its correct date in 1950 either. I checked for several months on either side of the date. Some of the sources, other than Hynek, also suggested a report in Project Blue Book, which others said wasn’t there.

As those of you who read comments know, Ralf Buelow, left a comment about this and a link about Linke (I just couldn’t avoid doing that) that showed it was in the Blue Book file. If you haven’t seen that link, here it is:


That, of course, took me to Fold3 and their Blue Book file which was a single page entry. I looked at the entries before it and after it, which allowed me to find the entry in the Blue Book index. It is on the page for 1 – 31 March 1952 in the section labeled “Additional Reported Sightings (Not Cases).” It is entry number 1087. It is grouped with a March 15 sighting in Iran and another from Greenfield, Massachusetts. Linke’s sighting (Hasselback, Saxsoni) is from a retyped news clipping and the one from Massachusetts is from the newspaper. The source of the Linke news clipping, which is to say the newspaper, is not identified in the Blue Book file. It is not the same clipping as the one quoted by Hynek in his book, The Hynek UFO Report. Hynek’s report was from a Greek newspaper and the source is listed as I. Kathimerini. No source is provided for the Iran case.

For those of you interested in such things, the report that directly precedes it is from California, and is from either March 31 or April 1, according to Blue Book and therefore has nothing to do with Linke.

The Iran case is a single page that describes a luminous object traveling at great speed that probably wasn’t a meteor, according to the file. The sighting was representative of a number of sightings over the Iranian/Soviet border at the time.

The Massachusetts sighting is an actual newspaper clipping as opposed to a retyped version and it covers some sightings in that state. There is nothing about Linke in that either.

Here’s where we are on this, which says nothing about the sighting itself, but on the reporting of it. Hynek claimed that it came from the CIA, but the Blue Book file does not bear that out. He said it was one of the “unidentifieds” in Blue Book, but the index and the case file do not bear that out. His quotes, apparently from the Greek newspaper, do not match the quotes from the Blue Book file, though the information does match, which of course it would since both reports comes from Oskar Linke. I see nothing on the Blue Book report that identifies a newspaper which is why I say it is not the one Hynek quoted.

I thank Ralf Buelow for the information and the link.

Wednesday, December 21, 2016

Oskar Linke, Blue Book and the CIA


As many of you know, I’m writing a book which is no surprise because I’m always writing a book of some kind. Sometimes they are even about UFOs. As I was wading through the material, I came across a sighting that Dr. J. Allen Hynek had reported in his The Hynek UFO Report. The details were a little confusing and a typo or two made it even more confusing but I think I have straightened that out, which isn’t important here.


J. Allen Hynek
According to Hynek, on July 9, 1952 (or rather the date of the report) Oscar Linke and his daughter saw a UFO in what would have been East Germany. Linke said that he saw two entities and when his daughter shouted at him, those two beings reacted with surprise. They climbed back into their craft and took off.

So what’s the problem?

First, according to Hynek, the report is in the Project Blue Book files. He wrote, “One of the more interesting but isolated Air Force ‘Unidentifieds’ came to Blue Book in the form of a (then) secret CIA document:”

That document is a newspaper report from a Greek newspaper and that’s where the July 9, date came from. Others quoted Blue Book as the source following Hynek’s lead and some had the 1952 date as the correct one. I checked the Blue Book Master Index and found nothing to support a sighting on that date in Germany that involved an occupant sighting. Later I learned that the case was actually from June 17, 1950, and the man’s name was Oskar Linke. That didn’t help because I still found nothing in the Blue Book files about this report. I believe others have also attempted to find it with the same negative results.

I’m not here to argue the merits of the sighting, but Hynek’s interesting revelation. He seemed to believe the case was in Blue Book, and as the scientific consultant, especially in the early 1950s; he was privy to a great deal of UFO data collected by the Air Force. I’m not sure how he came into possession of this report because it was classified, though it might have been routinely downgraded at three year intervals until it was ultimately declassified in 1958, and besides, it was from a newspaper which sort of argues against the classification being to protect collection methods. While this clipping came from a Greek newspaper, it was apparently widely reported around Europe about the same time which is two years after the event.

No, the important point here is that the CIA was collecting UFO material and providing it to the Air Force. This was some five years before the beginning of Moon Dust (that was 1957 and the document was published in 1952… I mention all this so everyone knows that I’m not talking about the actual date of the sighting).

Anyway, I found it interesting that there were secret UFO reports being transmitted and that the CIA was gathering the data from around the world. Since this report was fed into Blue Book, according to Hynek and I don’t know how he would have learned about it otherwise, it suggests that there was another level to Blue Book which we have yet to penetrate. It suggests a real concern for UFO information at some high level of the government. And remember, we have found UFO related documents in the FBI files as well, so there was an interest in UFOs by the intelligence services.

All we have is this single little bit of data and in and of itself, the fact the CIA reported it might not be overly important. I might be reading too much into this. I just found it interesting that Hynek mentioned the case was in the Blue Book files, but it’s not, that it was classified as secret and that it came from the CIA. It suggests a higher level of interest in UFOs but doesn’t tell us much about that level of interest.