Monday, June 04, 2018

Another Roswell Witness - Sort Of

Nearly thirty years ago John Keel, one of those self-styled UFO researchers that Ken Macdonald complained about in his June 2, 2018 AOL Newsribol article about Roswell, said that by the turn of the century (meaning in 2000), there would be hundreds of new witnesses clamoring for their place in the Roswell mythology. Turns out he was right (not about the mythology but about the new witnesses). People have been all over the place claiming to know something special or someone special or something important about the Roswell case.

Macdonald writes about the Roswell story as if this is something new but draws his information from the Roswell Daily Record article published in 1947. He even includes the irrelevant tale of Dan Wilmot, a Roswell resident who saw something on July 2, 1947. That Wilmot made the report about a craft in the sky doesn’t necessarily mean that what he saw was what was responsible for the debris found by W.W. “Mack” Brazel in early July 1947.

What annoyed me first here was this idea that the alien spacecraft was spying on our testing of nuclear weapons, according to what Macdonald wrote. Of course, those of us who can think beyond the end of a sentence realize the flaw in this theory. The first atomic explosion took place in July 1945, with two more in Japan in August 1945… So, if it was atomic explosions that grabbed the aliens’ attention, wouldn’t they have gone to Japan rather than New Mexico? There had been more explosions there.

And since we know the speed of light, and even if we grant the alien ability to spot these brief flashes of very bright light on the Earth’s surface, from where do the aliens originate? Even granting them Faster-than-Light travel, the light from those detonations had only been traveling for two years. Do the aliens have an outpost in our Solar System? Maybe on that ninth planet out in the Kuiper Belt somewhere that some astronomers claim is there?

But what really annoys me is that we have another, new but unidentified, witness to the bodies from the Roswell crash. Oh, he
Nope. Not the real creature, just a model
made for the ShowTime Movie, Roswell.
didn’t see them in New Mexico, but in Ohio, sort of like Philip Corso didn’t see them in New Mexico but in Kansas.

According to this story (and please don’t tell it’s been around for a couple of years because I know that) Raymond Szymanski, who says he worked at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base as an “engineer and high-level researcher,” for 39 years, is the man behind this tale. He said that he was privy to some of the biggest and darkest secrets floating around the base which included the cover up of the Roswell crash.

He, himself, saw underground tunnels and chambers under the base, and this was where the material, and by material, I mean the craft and bodies recovered at Roswell, were stored. Now, he didn’t see the Roswell stuff, only these secret tunnels and chambers and given the history of Wright-Pat, and the paranoia of the Cold War, wouldn’t underground shelters and tunnels be something you’d expect? A purpose other than hiding alien bodies I mean, but I digress.

Szymanski tells of a friend, Al, who spilled the beans to him. Szymanski, according to what he has said, was a “young co-op student barely in his first week” and was let in on the secret… Security
Obviously, the gate to Wright-
Patterson AFB.
clearances take a while to complete, so this is an amazing breach of military etiquette, but I’ll ignore that because it really doesn’t make a lot of difference here.

He talked of a small group of 10,000 people that he had now joined. I don’t know if all 10,000 were at Wright-Pat or scattered among research facilities around the country… anyway, that’s a lot of people in on the secret and not exactly a small group.

But here’s the deal with this tale. We don’t know who Al is. We just have the first name and a suggestion that he was an important man or scientist. And we have Szymanski’s claim that “everyone” he talked to about this over the years didn’t deny the rumors… No one suggested he was out of his mind, but according to him, he has no smoking gun.

So, here we are, with another man claiming some sort of inside knowledge about the Roswell crash but unlike so many others, he admits that he hasn’t seen the bodies or the craft, only been told about it by people he finds to be reliable. But how many times have we been down that road only to learn that the sources for the information are not credible? I’m not even going to bother naming the names because those who visit here on a regular basis, or who have read Roswell in the 21st Century, know how many have fallen to increased scrutiny.


No, right now I’m not buying this and I don’t really know why AOL Newsribol thought it necessary to dredge up this tale again. It is clear that the story was based on newspaper articles and press releases and that the writer did very little if anything to verify the information. That’s left, I guess, to we self-styled UFO researchers. Too bad so much is ignored by self-styled investigative journalists.

6 comments:

  1. What bothers me about the Corso claims is that he initially saw alien bodies at Ft. Riley, KS.
    I recall the same tale in a book written well before Corso's book. Having worked in G-2 at
    Ft. Riley in the 80's I did ask about the story (before Corso's book was published) and was
    convinced there was nothing to it. Corso had an interesting background in the Army but I
    never found his story on Roswell credible.

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  2. OF course the aliens have an outpost in the Solar System! Just ask Bill Birnes! (Yes, sarcasm.)
    "And since we know the speed of light, and even if we grant the alien ability to spot these brief flashes of very bright light on the Earth’s surface, from where do the aliens originate? Even granting them Faster-than-Light travel, the light from those detonations had only been traveling for two years. Do the aliens have an outpost in our Solar System? Maybe on that ninth planet out in the Kuiper Belt somewhere that some astronomers claim is there?"

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  3. Kevin, as you know, "the press", like this Macdonald guy, takes 4th-hand, unverified information (hearsay), add their own garbage on top of it, then light it on fire to see who will report it and give them more publicity. Unfortunately, you have taken Macdonald's bait, added your own garbage on top of his, and lit it on fire. Somehow I expected more from you, perhaps a little real research into this.

    May I suggest to you, and all those who wish to use my name in their articles and blogs, please read my book FIRST. It's Fifty Shades of Greys: Evidence of Extraterrestrial Visitation to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base and Beyond. It's available on Amazon. If you compare the information that I put my name on, that being the book, you will discover how widely misquoted I am in the Macdonald article and elsewhere - including your blog - which is a shame because otherwise you have some thought-provoking dialogue here.

    My Best to You in Honest Journalism,

    Ray Szymanski

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  4. Ray -

    I was tempted to ignore this because... well, I can. However, I will point out that I have taken your bait and published your comment that takes tells us about your book and where to buy it... See? I reported this and gave you more publicity, even though your tone is less than cordial.

    So, do you tell us who Al is so that we might vet him, or are we left with the second-hand testimony of someone who is unknown to use and therefore mostly useless. Do you offer any sort of credible evidence? And what, exactly do you object to? The article here, which I thought about not publishing rather than give you any additional publicity, only suggests that the Roswell information is a little vague. Maybe you'd like to take the opportunity to provide a little more information... and then I can always publish that as an update. See, no reason to get snide about this... just provide some facts and let me know what you believe I got wrong.

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  5. Kevin,

    Thanks for the generous opportunity to tell what I believe you got wrong. However,if I ever take the precious time to do so, I think I'll save that for the final book of my trilogy Fifty Shades of Greys: Nothing But the Truth. (Probably out in 2021.) Meanwhile, please enjoy my latest book, Fifty Shades of Greys: Victoria's Secret Truth. I did my best not to use the "Roswell" word therein, but had to when ever-so-briefly discussing UFOs, Nukes, and the 509th Bombardment Group (page 48). I trust this will not qualify me, again, as a Roswell wannabe.

    Best Regards,

    Ray Szymanski

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  6. Ray -

    If you would like to discuss this on my radio show, email me at KRandle993@aol.com.

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