This
week I talked with Mike Rogers to get his take on the Travis Walton abduction,
since he was one of the main players. He was completely candid in his responses
and didn’t even mind my somewhat snarky question about them leaving Travis
behind after being struck by the light beam. According to Mike, once the beam
hit Travis, the other six took off in the truck. To their credit, they did stop
and turn around to go back, but by that time, Travis was gone. You can listen
to that interview here:
Although
I had planned to talk about Mike’s involvement in the Phoenix Lights, we stayed
with the abduction. I got his personal take on some of the events around that,
learned that there had been a large-scale search for Travis and then the
ultimate ending to the search when the sheriff suggested that they had murdered
Travis. The lie detector said otherwise, and, of course Travis’ reappearance
some five days later put that theory to bed.
We
also talked, briefly, about Philip Klass’ involvement in the case, and his
attempts to convince Steve Pierce, another of those with Travis that night, to
admit the hoax. I had interviewed Pierce a number of years about this. You can
read that here:
One
of the things that did intrigue me was the paintings that Mike had done based
on the information supplied by Travis. I had thought that the beings described
by Travis didn’t look much like the Grays of fame and Zeta Reticuli, but Mike
thought they did look similar. I asked for, and was granted permission to reproduce
his paintings here so that you might make up your own mind.
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| Travis Walton abduction as painted by Mike Rogers. Painting copyright by Mike Rogers, reprinted here by permission. |
Given
the timing, as the show wrapped up, we had not gotten to the Phoenix Lights, so
I told him that we’d to that another time. Fortunately, the was a hole in the
production schedule so that I had the opportunity to continue the interview
right there. Now I learned that Mike had been on the scene of the Phoenix Lights,
but what he saw was something different than what had been reported in the major
of the stories. He saw a craft and not just lights in the distance.
I
had been of the opinion that there had been two events on that night in 1997.
One of them was of some kind of a structured craft that traveled the length of
Arizona and the other was of the lights over Phoenix. We agreed that the Lights
were flares dropped as part of military training, and that one formation of
lights was of aircraft. Although Mike had no explanation for the structured
craft, he did believe that it was of terrestrial manufacture. You can listen to
all that here:
Next
week, I’ll talk with Nick Redfern about his latest UFO book. He seems to be
intent on writing more UFO books than either me or Brad Steiger. Given his age
and mine, I’m sure that he’ll grab this “honor” at some point in the near
future.
If
you have questions for Nick, send them in the form of a comment and I’ll try to
get them asked. For Mike, there were a couple of questions, but they came in
while I was interviewing him, and didn’t have the chance to find them until the
show ended.
Hard to say which of the two segments of Mike Rogers interview were more interesting. Based on his down to earth and sensible attitude he is very convincing. A bonus during the interview was his experience with Phillip Klass, which raises questions about Klasss' agenda and what possibly could have motivated him to make such hostile and blatantly unsupported statements, ones that suggest a disorder classification in the DSM III. Enjoyed the interviews. Thanks Kevin.
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