I have to tell you that
I find all this hysteria and awe over the revelations of the alleged
whistleblower and some of his compatriots in all this talk of UFO crash
retrievals to be somewhat funny. I have watched videos of alleged reporters listening
to the uncorroborated tales of spaceship crashes and the retrieval of the alien
flight crew and exclaim they have chills up and down their spines because of
what they are hearing. It is as if none of this has been said before.
So, what is the difference
here?
These latest tales are
supposedly wrapped in the cloak of whistleblower testimony to members of
Congress. Of course, that’s not new either. There have been meetings between
witnesses to the strange events and Congress in the past. Jesse Marcel, Jr.,
who actually handled bits of the debris recovered by his father on that ranch
northwest of Roswell in 1947 was invited to the hill. Get that? It was not some
guy who had heard stories, but the actual witness himself, telling these Congressional
representatives what he had seen himself.
Don Schmitt and I
talked with Jesse Marcel, Jr. on several cases. We heard him describe the
material that he had handled. We heard about the strange symbols he had seen on
some of it. And we heard about the strength of some of that debris.
We talked with Bill
Brazel, the son of the man who reported the crash to the authorities in
Roswell. He told us of material that mimicked fiber optics long before fiber
optics existed. He talked of material that was as light as balsa and that he
couldn’t even get a sliver with a pocket knife that he was to cut barbed wire.
And he told us of a foil that, when wadded into a ball, it would return to its
original shape.
Bill Brazel, who handled some of the metallic debris. |
Get it? We were talking
with the people who handled the material and we were naming names. And, we have
it all on audio, and in some cases, videotape. And we have affidavits signed by
those witnesses attesting to the validity of what they said.
As for the tales of
alien flight crew recovered, one of the new crop of journalists, or story
tellers, said that in his reporting he had left out some of that information
because it was too sensational. Thirty years ago, Don Schmitt and I not only
reported on the retrieval of the alien flight crews, we named names. We had
testimony from officers who had served with the 509th Bomb Group in
Roswell talk of alien bodies.
Of course, Jesse
Marcel, Sr., the air intelligence officer of the 509th, was the
first to talk of the retrieval. He started the ball rolling. I talked with the
base Provost Marshal, Edwin Easley, who retired as a colonel, who told me that
he had been sworn to secrecy about what had happened. But who also told me when
I asked if we were following the right path, meaning we thought it was
extraterrestrial, he said, “Well, it’s not the wrong path.”
Major Jesse Marcel, Sr. |
Both Don Schmitt and I
talked to Brigadier Arthur Exon, one time the base commander at Wright
Patterson Air Force Base. He confirmed for us that it was the crash of an alien
craft and that bodies were recovered. Although he had not seen the bodies
himself, those he knew and trusted at Wright Patterson said there had been
bodies. Here was an Air Force brigadier general confirming the Roswell crash…
And did I mention that he had flown over the two crash sites, which, of course
was first hand testimony.
Brigadier General Arthur Exon |
And for those who
believe that a weather balloon and rawin radar reflector was the cause all the
hoopla in Roswell, Colonel Thomas DuBose (later brigadier general) told us that
the material in the pictures was not the material recovered at Roswell. He was
there, in Fort Worth, when the pictures were taken, and was even on one of
them.
Colonel Thomas DuBose with BG Raney with the weather balloon. |
Let’s not forget the
story told by the late Senator Barry Goldwater, a brigadier general in the
Reserve. He had asked his pal, General Curtis LeMay about the so-called Blue
Room at Wright-Patterson AFB. This was an area that was claimed to house alien
artifacts, and maybe even alien bodies. LeMay’s response wasn’t to laugh at
Goldwater, but to deny him permission to enter and that if he ever asked again,
he, Goldwater would be court martialed. I don’t how LeMay would have done that
because the publicity would reveal the secret. Goldwater confirmed the story on
several occasions.
Of course, I can go on.
I spoke to a brigadier general, in the Pentagon. Yes, he was in the Pentagon
and so were Don Schmitt and me. Of course, we weren’t very deep inside the
building and the discussion didn’t last very long, but he did tell us that he
couldn’t get at the Roswell files but did confirm they exist. How is this
information any different that the uncorroborated tales told by the new
whistleblowers?
As an Air Force
intelligence officer, and later as an Army intelligence officer, those who knew
me, knew of my interest in UFOs. They would tell me things that they heard. One
of the wildest stories, one that I just didn’t report on because, like what we
have today, I can’t validate it. I know of no reason the man would invent the
tale and he told me merely because he believed I wouldn’t ridicule his story.
Although he wouldn’t
give me a location or an exact date, he said that he had been on TDY because he
held an undergraduate degree in biology, and while there were other officers
who had the same training, they simply didn’t have the same level of security
clearances and sometimes that is the limiting factor. There were other officers
with better training but they couldn’t get the necessary clearances in the
necessary time frame.
He had been flown to
the famous undisclosed location, had gone through a rigorous decontamination
process to ensure that he wouldn’t be carrying any, and he used the term, human
genetic material, into the clean room. He was suited up, and while guards stood
outside, he entered that sterile environment. He had thirty minutes to examine
the specimen. Again, that was his word.
The being was humanoid,
but clearly not human. He didn’t supply much in the way of a description.
Ironically, he did say that the skin had a greenish tint. The being wasn’t
exactly green and my source wasn’t sure if the color was the result of
decomposition or the attempts to preserve the unique biological sample, which,
given this was the military he called a UBS.
He couldn’t tell much
about it and realized that he was out of his depth. True, he had the degree in
biology, again, this was a unique sample. His examination was superficial. He
said that the head was light-bulb shaped, the eyes were small and he wondered
if they came from a world with bright sunlight. The being was five to
five-five. The hands contained six fingers that were long and thin and looked
almost like tiny tentacles.
At that point, I think
he realized that he was telling me more than he should have. He grinned and
just asked, “What do you think?”
I had heard several
similar stories, meaning tales of alien bodies including one in which the man,
a retired officer, told me about meeting with a living alien creature. I’m not
sure if they creature had been found near Roswell or was from some other event.
He also mentioned that he had been sent to Roswell in the very early 1950s to
go through the records at the base to remove and destroy any that hinted of the
unusual events of July 1947.
There isn’t a lot of
consistency in these sorts of tales. I just stuffed them and search for some
sort of confirmation, which, of course, I have not found. Just a tales told as
we discussed lots of other things. Just stories dropped into conversation every
now and then.
So, what do you do with
all this? Well, I forgot about it until we started to hear more about
whistleblowers and tales of alien crash retrievals and dead alien pilots they
tell today. There is no real substance to these stories. They are just tales
told by one officer to another or hinted at in other discussions. In that first
case, both of us had, at the time, top-secret clearances and even though I am
interested in UFOs, there was a hint that the story shouldn’t be repeated.
And that’s where we are
today. A couple of guys, identified as whistleblowers, hinting at such stories,
as if this is something new. They provide nothing to be checked but promise
more. At least Don Schmitt, Tom Carey and I, when reporting these tales,
provide names, dates, locations and often have taped backup, which can be
supplied to prove that we aren’t inventing the tales.
So, if you wish to read
about crash retrievals, (a term created by the late Len Stringfield decades ago),
take a look at what we have learned, from some highly placed sources who we
identify… and if you wonder why the Air Force, during their investigation in
1995 ignored some of the information and recordings supplied by named,
high-ranking officers that we offered to them, I believe the answer is obvious.
The Air Force didn’t want to call retired, high-ranking officers liars.
Thank you for keeping this down to Earth so to speak. While I'm interested in what has been going on with the whistleblower and other stories, I also try to tell others nothing was witnessed by the man himself. There are a few interesting interviews with Sen Marco Rubio (R-FL) where he claims to have spoken with people who actually have seen things first hand.
ReplyDeleteBTW, Don Schmitt was on a newscast talking about finding the second crash site near Roswell. I tried to find other information on the interweb but have been unable to do so. I was wondering if you have spoken to Mr Schmitt on this and what your thoughts are on the matter.
Thanks, L Baker.
A superb reminder that we, the people who are sincerely committed to learning the truth about the UFO Mystery, have a lengthy,detailed, rich history - most especially when it comes to people who decided to speak out before they passed on.
ReplyDeleteWe got to hear Frankie Rowe's story about 3 weeks before she passed away in 2017. I spent the better part of an hour having coffee with Glenn Dennis behind closed doors. And, of course, there was my friend, June Crain.There are so many more.
It is time for the lies to end.
Yep, you guys were screaming at the hilltops, when no-one was listening, and now that the media has suddenly decided hey! UFO's (Oops! UAPs) are real, its all cool now and real, no big deal.
ReplyDeleteIt amazes me how much control mainstream media has with people, for many it is almost their religion, people don't think enough for themselves.
Kevin,
ReplyDeleteSix Fingers? Six fingers? Do you remember another six fingered alien?
You need to reexamine your assumptions. You will never have an understanding of Roswell
until you understand what the Alien Autopsy is all about. Then everything will fall into place. And it's more troubling than we thought. Ask bluejay if you don't believe me.
Ed
Bill Brazel said to Frank Joyce that the little Men ´re not green. That means Brazel saw the little UFO People?!
ReplyDeleteThere is one subtle difference between your info and now, as well. That is that there was a period of time when you were verbally expressing huge doubts about your own investigation. Plus, unlike Ross C., you didnt have an up and coming news network to help beat the drum. Just some thoughts, anyway. I appreciate all your past efforts.
ReplyDeleteWhen Lazar told of his account, everyone seemed to go into over-drive in order to discredit his story, his education, his character, etc.
ReplyDeleteDavid Grush, on the other hand, seems to be getting practically a free pass on his tale.
I'm not too sure what to make of it all (it's way too early for that) but my initial thoughts on the different reaction to the two is that Lazar was blurting out something of high importance and sensitivity...and Grush, isn't.
James Clarkson..."It is time for the lies to end."
ReplyDeleteA good start would have been to ignore everything Glenn Dennis said to you. I think even the most rabid ETH believers (like myself) gave up on Dennis a long time ago.
I just keep looking at this Whistleblower stuff and thinking,
ReplyDelete"What is he saying that is new and different from what Bob Lazar said over 30 years ago?"
And Lazar gave a lot more detail.