This week I talked with Matt Tiller who is a member of the SCU (Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies*) and the editor of their publication, SCU Review. We began with a brief discussion of what the SCU is and how one becomes a member of it. With the trouble in MUFON, I wondered if some of that membership might be interested in joining the SCU. You can listen to the interview here:
From there we talked about the Ubatuba metal sample. This was debris picked up on a beach in Brazil in 1957. It has been analyzed several times by labs in Brazil and
the United States. Although the metal is unusual, the various analyses haven’t confirmed the extraterrestrial nature of the material. The major problem is the broken chain of custody.
Although I had wanted to talk about the search for exoplanets and what that meant in the search for extraterrestrial intelligence, we ended up discussing, for the moment, the Del Rio UFO crash and what that meant for those who are involved with the Academy to the Stars. As I have mentioned here, a number of times, the Del Rio crash is limited to a single witness who lied about his military record. Robert Willingham is not the most credible of sources. You can read about him here (as well as other places):
For those interested in following this whole, sad tale in depth, just type Robert Willingham into the search engine here and you’ll find that I have spent a great deal of time on this. Willingham annoyed me with his Stolen Valor (in photographs he is wearing a number of military awards and decorations that he didn’t earn including an Air Assault Badge. You have to wonder how an Air Force officer who retired in 1966, a badge that wasn’t authorized until after the Vietnam War) and his lies about UFO crashes (yes, he was there for seven retrievals) and his claim of high military rank.
We also talked about the Fermi Paradox, which concerns me greatly in my old age. I began to think that there are plenty of planets teeming with intelligent life out there, but the speed of light and the distances between stars defeats interstellar travel. We aren’t alone. We’re just isolated. I hope this isn’t the case and there is a way to defeat the distances, but I just don’t know.
If you wish to learn more about the SCU and/or Matt Tiller, you can find it here:
Next week, I’ll be talking with Robert Sheaffer again. The topic, in one of the few times I have a title, is Stan Friedman and Philip Klass – What’s the Difference? If you have any questions, as always post them to the comments section and I’ll try to get them asked.
* Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon, the new name for UFO, which I suddenly find annoying. Yes, UFO is often equated with alien spacecraft, but I find that preferable. Of course, to be clear, we can always use flying saucer to clarify the whole discussion. This might be an argument for another post.