No,
this isn’t what you think. It was something that I noticed in a Billy Cox
column which addressed Tom Carey’s appearance at the American University. Cox
was discussing the purpose of the panel discussion and interviewed adjunct
professor John Weiskopf
who asked his honors students to consider the impact of ET themes
on popular
culture. Cox wanted to know if he had any regrets about asking Carey to appear.
That started a discussion about Carey and his revelation about the Roswell
Slides at the discussion and also reminded me of another lecture in front of college
students that was somewhat similar.
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| Display in the International Museum and Research Center in Roswell. |
Some
sixty-five years before that, on March 8, 1950, a lecture about flying saucers
was held at the University of Denver. This lecture became part of the mythology
involved in the Aztec UFO crash and was given by a “mystery man” who was later
identified as Silas Newton. Frank Scully, in Behind the Flying Saucers:
The
negotiations between the faculty and the spokesman for the lecturer took months
to arrange, as the speaker wasn’t keen about being “evaluated,” but when the
science students voted 100 per cent to hear the lecturer, he acquiesced. Of
these, 80 per cent said, after the lecture, that they were “impressed.” By a
show of hands 60 per cent indicated they believed the man knew what he was
talking about, that he obviously was a member of the group of scientists he
described as having examined space ships which had landed on this earth from,
in all likelihood, another planet. More,
they believed the mystery man of science had the best answer to the secret
propulsion behind these flying saucers and that it was neither combustion nor
jet.
William
Steinman added a little to this in his UFO
Crash at Aztec, published in 1986. He identified the instructor of the
class as Francis F. Broman, who taught a basic science course. Steinman wrote
that Broman had actually invited George T. Koehler to give the lecture, but Koehler
said that his friend knew more about the subject, so it was Newton who gave the
talk.
Steinman
also mentioned that an intelligence officer had contacted Broman to learn more
about the lecture. When Broman said that he hadn’t believed the tale but that
he didn’t speak for everyone in the class that seemed to satisfy the officer. The
call was terminated.
William
E. Jones and Rebecca D. Minshall took up the investigation and reported their
findings in the International UFO
Reporter for September/October 1991. While they suggest that Steinman had
almost everything right about the lecture, they reported that the name of the
class, rather than Basic Science was Science and Man.
And
they report, “The purpose of the lecture was to provide the students with an
assertion against which they could apply the critical thinking methods that
Broman was teaching.”
They
also noted, “Broman found Newton’s claim about the crashed saucer unconvincing,
as did many of those who attended his lecture. Further, Newton failed to live
up to an agreement to allow his story to be critiqued using the methods being
taught by Broman. As a result of statements made later by Broman about some
aspects of the lecture, Broman was reportedly threatened with a lawsuit by the
author of a book entitled, About UFOs.
The dispute was settled out of court.”
Well,
I’m not surprised by the threats of a lawsuit. That seems to be standard
operation procedure in the world of the UFO. But the important points here, are
the facts about the lecture, including that the professor and the students
found Newton’s claims and evidence unconvincing.
So,
fast forward 65 years.
Back
to the original question. Did he have
any regrets about asking Carey to appear? According to Billy Cox:
‘Mr.
Carey surprised attendees and participants alike that evening at a near full
capacity event (170 people) with his disclosure,’ Weiskopf stated in an email, ‘but
many attendees whom I spoke with afterwards (including my students) said that
they were quite skeptical of Tom Carey’s claim. Mr. Carey got what he wanted,
his disclosure eclipsed much of the substantial discussions by the other three
panelists who have remarkable careers and credibility. The lead teaser for
WTOP’s radio coverage the following morning beginning at 6 a.m. contained three
points, the most dramatic being Tom Carey’s leak.’
Tom
Carey was, as you say, ‘the odd man’ out, but that was deliberate; that was
intended,” Weiskopf went on. “If we present knowledge and experience of the
same or identical frequencies, then we are only limiting ourselves.” He
preferred instead to reflect on how the course forced his students to stretch,
which he says manifested during a session with the speakers before the public
event that evening: “It was a remarkable luncheon to watch my honors students
question, challenge, and in some cases, retort or refute statements that the
panelists made in their books/articles/interviews. In my course during the book
discussions, my students were ‘less than kind’ in discusssing Tom Carey’s
co-authored book Witness to Roswell. At the luncheon, two students told Mr.
Carey face-to-face that they did not like his book nor did they believe it.
They told him that his logic and conclusions were faulty.”
Weiskopf
said it wasn’t his job to tell the class what to think. “When I taught this
course I never colored any book, film, television show or blog with my personal
beliefs or what I thought about the extraterrestrial issue, either in general
or specifically. I allowed my classroom academic environment to unfold as
objectively as possible allowing the students to ‘conclude, be confused or
indecisive or become staunch believers’ on their own after examining and
evaluating all of the data for 14 weeks.”
Bottom
line: “I would hope that other universities and colleges would take the same
bold and courageous step that American University did in supporting this
extremely important event.”
The
whole article can be seen here:
And
here’s my point. Not much has changed in those 65 years. In 1950, the students,
according to the best accounts, were not impressed with Newton. The reason was
probably the lack of evidence. It was heavy on speculation and if you reject
the Aztec crash, then it was heavy on fabrication.
With
Tom Carey, the students, according to the best accounts, were not impressed
with Tom. The reason was probably the hyperbole of his remarks and the lack of
evidence. Of course, today, we know that the major problem is that the source
of his information, those slides have been uncovered and that the body shown is
not alien.
The real
point is that we all need to look at the evidence with a little bit more skepticism,
we have to be more diligent in our research, and we have to reject this will to
believe. If we don’t, some 65 years from now someone might be writing a similar
story (and hey, if I’m around, I’ll do it.)



