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| Spyros Melaris |
We
have discussed the Alien Autopsy on many occasions, and there is very little
more to say. It is an admitted hoax with the advocates clinging to the nonsense
that although there was a lot of faked footage added to clarify the situation;
the point is that it was supposedly mixed with the real autopsy footage. This
argument makes no sense. If you have footage of a real alien autopsy, why would
you contaminate it with footage that you created? This is a story that is
little more than fantasy and no way to verify any of it because the alleged
witnesses are unidentified.
Rather
than go through all this again, I’ll just point you to the words of one of
those who was on the inside. According to the site hosted by Andre Sokandas “On April 17,
2016, Spyros Melaris appeared on a radio show to discuss his involvement in the
Alien Autopsy. He appeared on the regular show and then he came back at the
insistence of the host for another 30 minute XTRA segment.” The link to both
segments can be found at:
You all can listen to this interview of one of those who were involved in
the creation of the Alien Autopsy and decide for yourselves how valuable it is.
I have no reason to believe this will end discussion on the autopsy but it
really should close the books on it.
23 comments:
Let's face it: the Alien Autopsy was the greatest news since sliced bread (sorry I meant since Kellogg's Corn Flakes). It even outdid MJ-12. But the slides went one better than both, I think.
Which proves that Roswell was a truly fantastic event, really.
Truly amazing that given the repeated confessions involved, some people today still believe this hoax to be evidence of extraterrestrial contact. The pure lack of any "medical science" coming from the "authentic" autopsy film is proof enough it's complete "bull-hockey".
Of course there remain those who claim this "medical science" exists; just that it's buried deep in the underground vaults of Wright-Patterson's "Blue Room", hidden chambers under Dulce, S-4 in Area 51, or perhaps secret testing facilities inside Los Alamos National Laboratory. I suppose it could also be disguised as a mummy at a National Park museum too!
For an entertaining look at related (and supposedly "authentic") classified military films, check out these additional hoaxed attempts.
The "Roswell Wreckage Video":
>> Thought to be a portion of Santilli's fake 1995 film but perhaps unused or released later as yet another supporting hoax. Wreckage examined in a military tent at the Roswell crash site. Note some of these Hollywood props resemble Kaufman's fraudulent stories. No doubt the man examining the debris is Maj. Marcel himself! Go ahead major, take that stuff home to show your wife and kid...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fFV6ghlJ7ts
The "Roswell Body Recovery" Film:
>> Again another 1995 film shot by Santilli and released and re-released on the Internet many times since. Depicts scrambling and bewildered (oh no the sky is literally falling) RAAF personnel with an alien body near Hanger 84. Wait - I think I see Haut with a press release in his hand, or is that memory foil? LOL
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IzhTxTgS3V0
The "Soviet-Roswell" KGB Film:
"Skinny Bob" the Grey Alien (or time traveler?) stars in this lackluster attempt to depict the Russians discussing treaties with our alien friends back in 1947 (or close to it). Note the film has been spliced and relabeled many times on YouTube in attempts to declare it footage from Roswell! Oh...never mind the KGB logo at the beginning...I'm sure the folks in the 509th used the same insignia! LOL
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XswfEzKE0UQ
Now, does anyone know a military cameraman who can shoot some low-end, blurry, and overexposed footage of the "cosmic event of all time" as if he was about to drop the camera?
Well the fact is the alien autopsy conspiracy shows no sign of being resolved.Check out my alien autopsy analysis Facebook page for more info.I started it last year in time for the 20th anniversary of the footage being shown.
Here are some key questions that need to be answered.
1. Why does Spyros not release the 1st autopsy? Why can't we even see it? 20 minutes of another autopsy with a different body.That would be worthy of analysis right? If it proves its a hoax why would you not release it?
2. Where are all the photos and film from behind the scenes? Strange eh? Also what happened to all the props and evidence?
3. Why when clearly a bigger budget was available for the Ant and Dec motion picture film does Humphreys model look nothing like the superior version he supposedly made over 10 years before?
4. Why even have a danger sign,telephone in the room etc when it would be easier not to.Why create a pot bellied alien with six fingers when there was nothing in popular culture for Humphreys to base it on?
5. If there was no original footage that the hoax was based on how come at least 4 or 5 witnesses claim to have seen similar footage of the same beings? This includes Mike Moloney OBE who saw footage in 1978 while at a meeting with Disney.
6. Isn't it more likely Spyros came along with his version of the story after Ray's scripted restoration story had become an embarrassing mess? The dispute between Ray and Spyros is staged to give a greater credibility to an overall hoax.A necessary second layer of deception to the cake so you swallow it better.
7. The debunking of the alien autopsy footage followed the exact same strategy used to discredit the crop circle phenomena in the early 90s.
8. What about Reg Presley's story (close friend of Ray and singer in the Troggs) about 2 men from the ministry visiting Ray in his office and demanding to be shown the footage and all the claims of break ins of their property and cars? Was this the reason the film was never dated as they confiscated them on grounds of national security? Was the Truman footage removed too?
9. Why does John Humphreys not want to talk about the most famous hoax of all time if he truly did make the aliens? Also why is everyone else silent but Spyros? Were Ray and Gary paid off when they chose to change their story in 2006? They got a nice pay day for the motion picture film.Was part of the reason they were allowed to change their story to a restoration rather than a full hoax because it could have led to them being sued?
10. By comparing the hands of Greg Simmons with the soldier we can prove whether it is him holding the debris as Spyros claims.Likewise we should be able to prove whether it was Gareth Watson behind the window.Also Spyros says his ex girlfriend whose claimed to be the mastermind behind various aspects of the footage won't come forward as she works in the government and wants nothing to with the circus.How convenient! She apparently still lives in the same room in Camden where the autopsy was filmed but won't allow anyone to investigate.She has now assumed the role of the original cameraman but for the skeptics.Oh the irony!
11. Why should we trust Spyros who was kicked out of the magic circle (and later reinstated) for appaling behaviour and has a somewhat dubious past? (And he threatens to sue for just mentioning it) The magic circle is nothing more than a Masonic group.See also noted magician sceptics of the paranormal such as James Randi,Penn and Teller and Derren Brown.Serial child abuser Lord Janner was also a member as is Prince Charles!
12. Isn't it suspicious that the principle film investigator Bob Shell was jailed for 32 years for the involuntary manslaughter of his model girlfriend an admitted drug addict who died from an overdose. Lurid claims of sex with her dead body were also cited.All his appeals have since failed.
13 In summing up its a travesty that such a case with such intriguing evidence has been dismissed by those in ufology.If it takes someone like me to reopen it then so be it.
All -
I knew that someone would have to defend the Alien Autopsy... We have the participants telling us they faked it... we have them giving us pictures of the process... We have no independent witnesses to this particular autopsy which, BTW, have yet to be found. The cameraman not onlly never came forward, but Santilli offered, first a fake transcript of him and later a faked interview. The Alien Autopsy ship sailed long ago. Too bad you missed it.
people like that above supporting the autopsy video plain frighten me. Besides the inevitable confession, when directly asked if he faked it, Santilli's reply replete with smug grin deserving of a knockout punch by any top boxer was more than enough to tell me he was a BS artist in it for the money. His lies were just ridiculous, and so extremely transparent you would flat out have to be an idiot deserving of a straight jacket to still believe him or any of the cronies involved.
@ blue wool
It's not worth the time to answer each of these questions, however, the do have answers.
You asked:
1. Why does Spyros not release the 1st autopsy? If it proves its a hoax why would you not release it?
>>> Because it's already embarrassing enough.
2. Where are all the photos and film from behind the scenes? Strange eh? Also what happened to all the props and evidence?
>>> Discarded like most film edits. The props are still around - they weren't anything unique. The fake aliens would have been destroyed since they contained once living animal organs that would decompose and rot. Plus, hoaxers tend to hide their evidence.
3. Why when clearly a bigger budget was available for the Ant and Dec motion picture film does Humphreys model look nothing like the superior version he supposedly made over 10 years before?
>>> Profit incentive. A person makes more money by spending less on props if they can get away with it, and they did.
4. Why even have a danger sign,telephone in the room etc when it would be easier not to. Why create a pot bellied alien with six fingers when there was nothing in popular culture for Humphreys to base it on?
>>> Signage, phone, and clock are props to make a film seem legitimate. Pot bellied aliens have most certainly been around long before this film depicted them. 1930's, 1940's, and 1950's pulp fiction sci-fi books and comics illustrate them repeatedly.
5. If there was no original footage that the hoax was based on how come at least 4 or 5 witnesses claim to have seen similar footage of the same beings? This includes Mike Moloney OBE who saw footage in 1978 while at a meeting with Disney.
>>> That's an unverified story. And if he did I suspect it was some animated concept Disney was experimenting with. Besides people often lie about their experiences.
6. Isn't it more likely Spyros came along with his version of the story after Ray's scripted restoration story had become an embarrassing mess? The dispute between Ray and Spyros is staged to give a greater credibility to an overall hoax. A Necessary second layer of deception to the cake so you swallow it better.
>>> Only if you believed in conspiracy would you make such a speculative guess.
7. The debunking of the alien autopsy footage followed the exact same strategy used to discredit the crop circle phenomena in the early 90s.
>>> Not really. But it's true that both phenomenon had folks who fessed up to their shenanigans and hoaxes.
8. What about Reg Presley's story (close friend of Ray and singer in the Troggs) about 2 men from the ministry visiting Ray in his office and demanding to be shown the footage and all the claims of break ins of their property and cars? Was this the reason the film was never dated as they confiscated them on grounds of national security? Was the Truman footage removed too?
>>> More myth making speculation based on rumors designed to bring suspense to the film and attention to the hoaxers.
9-11 >>> Just more speculation and nonsense from behind the fakery.
12. Isn't it suspicious that the principle film investigator Bob Shell was jailed for 32 years for the involuntary manslaughter of his model girlfriend......All his appeals have since failed.
>>> That's what happens when you murder someone. No surprise there.
Sure, go ahead and reopen the case and attempt to prove an admitted hoax is actually real. I won't be holding my breath....
Eamonn investigates the alien autopsy
https://youtu.be/h-LgUFx8xv8
"The Alien Autopsy ship sailed long ago".
Kevin: I think you meant it sank long ago. It left port but quickly sank when the seas got deeper.
So you don't but into conspiracy theories then Kevin? What proof are you accepting as evidence? The Eamonn investigates TV show? You have got to be kidding me.You don't think Santilli would be leaned on if it was real footage? Was there not one point you would like to address? Anyone else here still asleep?
We don't have them giving pictures of the process? Are you referring to those shots of Humphries making a mold of the body? Is that your proof?
bluewool -
It is not up to me to prove the autopsy faked but for you to prove it real. I will note that Santilli has conveniently refused to provide the name of the cameraman so there is no provenance... and I will point out that even in 1947, Army autopsies were recorded using color film and there would be a still photographer as well... and until you identify yourself, I will post nothing more you have to say.
The autopsy is a hoax... and for those who think there might be something to it, please explain how an English word, "Video" appears on some of the wreckage displayed in the tent footage...
CDA -
You are correct, that ship sank long ago.
Your answers had me in stitches!
1. Worst answer ever!
2. No evidence then? Ho hum
3. Get out of here! He would have better materials and money 11 years on! I actually worked out what the danger sign says and guess what,the signage in the film is totally different!
4. What with six fingers? I'd like some of what your smoking.
5. What! He's the most decorated press photographer in Britain.Watch his interview!
6. So nothing suspicious about death of JFK,Princes Diana,911 etc?
7. So you are ignorant of the whole crop circle phenomena and their continued appearance every summer? They got two old farmers to say they had 'conned the world',yeh right!
8. Reg was Ray's closest friend during this,yeh just ignore that.You can read the account in Reg's book RIP
9-11 yeh you just wrote off evidence that can prove he is lying or telling the truth,well done!
12. Wasn't murder though was it.Dear oh dear!
Come on that doesn't say video.But even if you think it does where do you think our language comes from? The whole point with Santilli in my opinion was he was got at.He is clearly lying in the 2006 documentary and everyone agrees.Is it really so fetched that he was threatened and his film confiscated? You don't think there has ever been a UFO crash? An alien autopsy?
Of course it was a lie,any fool could see that but what made him change his mind? Compare that Ray with the one who came onto the scene in 1995.His son was seven at the time...go figure.
All -
bluewool provided with his name and his Facebook page about the Alien Autopsy... given that, I post his comments.
bluewool -
The word is embossed on one the huge I-beams at the beginning of the tent footage. It is stylized, of course, but it is certainly there. The "E" is reversed, but the word is there.
@ blue wool
Actually, it seems the "wool" has been pulled over YOUR eyes! Tabloid nonsense...
4. What with six fingers? I'd like some of what your smoking.
>>> Don't smoke never did. But, let's not forget movie monsters can be made to look like anything you want them to. Hollywood style effects makers have been around since the silent film era!
6. So nothing suspicious about death of JFK,Princes Diana,911 etc?
>>> No. Oswald shot JFK. Diana died in a high speed car wreck, and 911 was a terrorist attack. The weight of evidence bears this out.
7. So you are ignorant of the whole crop circle phenomena and their continued appearance every summer? They got two old farmers to say they had 'conned the world',yeh right!
>>> No. Just that it's been shown you can hoax it with two simple farmers, therefore nothing cosmic at all. Let's not forget those amazing circles that just happen to also be corporate advertising. Same for Santilli's film - nothing cosmic - given he confessed a hoax.
What's your evidence that it's authentic when it's been established it's a hoax by the people who made it?
So far you've provided nothing more than rabid conjecture and conspiracy laden hype.
I wouldn't be surprised if you think world leaders are Reptilian aliens in holographic disguise!!!!
Kevin:
Please, on bended knee, I beg you not to allow any discussion of JFK, Princess Diana or 911. We shall be talking until Jan 1, 2500 (and maybe beyond then) and still not get anywhere.
CDA -
Not to worry. We'll not be discussing JFK, Princess Diana (except maybe to express admiration) or 911... Any posts about those will be deleted.
I'm glad that BW revealed him/herself to KR. Suffice it to say that this is the type of ridiculous crapola you get from anonymous cowards, eh cda? Accepting anonymous posts has empowered the mentally deficient to go off on these tangents. Simply requiring a disclosed identity would prevent much of this. I liken this to the current story where Wal-Mart is suing a Texas preacher who accused them of defacing the wedding cake of an LGBT couple. Some nitwit decided that surely injustice was occurring somewhere, so they would just create some. BW is a great example of why serious thinkers categorically deny the ETH, unlike reflexive pseudo-skeptics who don't qualify as half-serious thinkers, eh cda.
Rusty,
Have you or the rest of your skeptic friends bothered
to view and think about the Eamonn documentary?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-LgUFx8xv8
Have you ever seen such an obvious setup?
Where is the truth to be found when Ray,
John, and Gary are all obviously lying and not really trying to
hide their collusion.
Instead of snide remarks about BW's thinking skills, how about some honest
and skillful investigation.
I have a suggestion on where to start.
During the first minutes of the footage, when the cameraman is panning the head and torso of the creature, what is it we see in the creatures right ear?
Have you ever viewed the uncut version of the AA?
Ed
Rusty:
Crapola? New word to me. Are you by any chance applying it to the AA film? If so, I am sure Ed G. will have something to say about it.
I think your problem is that you've made your mind up on something you have seen no evidence for other than the so called word of people who you believe lied in the first place.Why does that make their word more reliable now?
Maybe the best thing is to hold the middle ground and await evidence that can prove the case either way.Will the release of his book later this year finally have this irrefutable evidence? I some how doubt it but we shall see.
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