Showing posts with label Michael Horn. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Michael Horn. Show all posts

Friday, July 31, 2020

Awakening Sleeping Dogs - Or Billy Meier Again **

Michael Horn appended a comment to post that was a couple of years old. I had grown tired of the whole Billy Meier mess. Given the state of the world today, I really couldn’t care less about Meier and his claims of alien contact. To me, it just isn’t worth the effort.

I would have posted Horn’s comment had he not made some rather snarky comments and then descended into profanity… not to say that I haven’t said a

Michael Horn
profane word now and again. I just try to class things up periodically and have attempted to be the voice of civility in the world; sort of a mission to civilize. *

Anyway, Horn has talked about Meier’s uncanny ability to predict the future and one of the references sometimes cited are the books published by Wendelle Stevens on Meier’s contacts called Messages from the Pleiades: The Contact Notes of Eduard Billy Meier. In the copy that I have, there are ten copyright dates going back to 1979 and continuing up to 1989.

Here’s the problem. It is very easy to predict the future from that future. In other words, here in 2020, I could say that in 1990, I said that in thirty years, there would be a global pandemic, that there would be civil unrest in the United States, and that the presidential nominating conventions for the two parties would be thrown into turmoil. Nothing really specific here, but close enough to the situation today that it is an impressive list. And, if I produce any sort of document with a date attached showing it was “created” in 1990, that helps prove the point.

But what if there was a book that had a series of copyright dates in it suggesting that it had been updated over the years? What if we could check one of those 1979 versions with what was published in 1989 to see if the predictions had been updated at some point? And if there had been no changes to the earlier predictions to make them conform to our shared reality, then haven’t we moved into an arena that suggests that Meier’s predictions were as accurate as Horn and others have claimed.

All this boils down to the fact that I need to find a copy of Stevens’ book with a lone copyright date of 1979… though the same thing can be done with one that has a 1980 or even a 1981 date as long as it doesn’t have the 1989 date. The best situation is, of course, to compare the first edition with the one I have from 1989. If anyone has access to one of these earlier copies, I would certainly like to borrow it. Contact me through the comments section with a good email address and we’ll try to work out the details… and yes, Michael Horn, this applies to you too. If you have one of those earlier copies, might I borrow it for comparison?

*I bow to Will McAvoy and The Newsroom as the originator of the Mission to Civilize.

**I changed the “Kicking sleeping dogs,” to “Awakening sleeping dogs,” to not offend those care about animal.


Friday, November 17, 2017

Billy Meier Predictions - The Short Version

To recap, this all started when I made what I thought was a fairly innocuous statement. I said that I didn’t believe the Meier contact claims. Didn’t say then that they were a hoax. Didn’t say that anyone was lying, merely suggested that I didn’t find the evidence persuasive. I will say that I don’t believe a conspiracy murdered John Kennedy, and I don’t believe most of those who claim to be Vietnam
Combat assault in Vietnam. Photo copyright by
Kevin Randle, sort of proving my Vietnam
Service.*
Veterans. I have learned that the vast majority of those claiming service in Vietnam did not serve there and many weren’t even in the military. It means that if they have the proof, then I will believe their claims. But with all the frauds out there, I have to see the proof… unless, of course, I happened to have served with them in country. And given what I have learned in the last few months, I am now convinced that Billy Meier has not been in contact with alien creatures but I was willing to re-evaluate the evidence…

Michael Horn, offering some evidence said about Meier’s predictions: “Well, I have a few things to say. First, the fact is that no one on earth, in all of recorded history, actually has produced anything even remotely close to Billy’s stunning record of unparalleled prophetic accuracy. Since he hasn’t made any erroneous predictions that we are aware of, there’s no relevance to the idea of hedging one’s bets; how do you hedge bets when you accurately foretell specific events, locations, etc. years, even decades, in advance of “official” discovery or occurrence?”

But it is often said by Meier critics that many of those predictions are plagiarized. For example:

1. Baba Vanga, who died in 1996, predicted that in 2014 – Most people will suffer skin cancer and other skin diseases (a consequence of chemical warfare).
Meier predicted - Chemical warfare will cause horrifying and atrocious skin diseases, and biological warfare will produce festering sores and many other ills, not to mention vicious human freaks, etc.
2. Vanga predicted that in 2028 – Creating a new energy source (probably a controlled thermonuclear reaction). Hunger is gradually being overcome. Launched a manned spacecraft to Venus.
Meier predicted - Venus will be particularly interesting for terrestrial human beings during this period, and for this reason Man will contemplate sending a manned space capsule to the volcanic planet. Simultaneously, Man will avail himself of a new energy source by exploiting the Earth’s interior energies.
3. Vanga predicted that in 2033 – The polar ice [caps] are melting. Greater levels of the oceans.
Meier said - With the melting of the polar caps there also looms for Earth in the not-too-distant future another severe economic crisis that will spread throughout the globe.
4. Vanga claimed that in 2046 – any bodies (organs) can be manufactured (cloning?). Replacing the bodies is becoming one of the best methods of treatment.
And Meier said - Terrestrials will develop the capability of allowing human organs to “regrow” for organ transplants. These organs will always be adapted to the particular body in need of the organ. As a result, the danger of organ rejection is eliminated.
These are only four the many, many examples of predictions that Meier made that can be found in the works of others. Doesn’t this suggest the source of his information is, in reality, terrestrial works and not information supplied by the Pleiadeans?
Following are some of the predictions are alleged to be highly accurate:

Meier claimed to have received the information on 25 Feb. 1975, and later on 16 Sep., that atomic testing was, at least partially, responsible for the hole in the ozone layer, according to his contact notes. First independent verification of that claim came in either 1979 or 1980 upon publication of those notes.

Horn reported on his website, www.Theyfly.com that there was verification in a variety of scientific journals and other publications that scientific evidence suggested this was true… Although here, in 2017, that theory has been challenged as inaccurate.

However, articles in the NYT of 6 Sep 1974 and 17 Oct 1974 (months earlier) had already reported that. Science on 25 Oct 1974, reported the same thing.

Interestingly, the NYT reported on 28 Feb 1975 (three days after Meier’s alleged revelation using his name) that Dr. Michael B. McElroy of Harvard was one of those scientists… I find that interesting, especially when there is no independent verification of the 25 Feb 1975 as the true date.

I found a reference in a 1960 movie, Beyond the Time Barrier to atomic testing as destroying the protective layer around the Earth, meaning, of course, the ozone layer, which also predates the February 25, 1975, date.

The counterclaim is that Meier wrote a letter to 3000 world leaders, scientists and organizations dated Sep 1951, mentioned this problem. This, it is claimed, predates any reference that I can find, at least according to them.

There is no independent corroboration for that 1951 date. All copies of the letter were apparently lost or destroyed by all 3000 recipients back in 1951. But, incredibly, one of Meier’s Pleiadean pals retained a copy and gave it to him so that we do have the text. The problem is that wasn’t published until after 2005. Besides this, no one has adequately explained how he made those 3000 copies in a time before Xerox machines and home computers, how he paid for the 12 reams of paper, the 3000 envelopes or the international postage so that he could contact all those various leaders.

The real point is that here was an alleged claim made in 1951 but there was no way to verify that date because the letter only surfaced long after that and wasn’t published until 2005. The best that can be said is that the evidence shows the predictions are no older than 2005. In other words, there is no evidence that the predictions claimed by Meier and his pals were made on the dates claimed.


Some of this has been explored in more detail in blog postings over the last several months. All can by accessed by typing Billy Meier into the search engine provided on the left side.

*Sure, the picture has little relevance to the discussion here, but, I did mention Vietnam, so there you go.

Monday, July 17, 2017

The Pteranodano and Billy Meier

Because it isn’t time for the premiere of Game of Thrones Season 7, and I have nothing better to do, I thought I’d kick another sleeping dog (sorry of that analogy offends). For laughs, I took a look at the Pteranodano photograph that was allegedly taken by Billy Meier during a July 1975 trip to a world some 9.38 billion light years away which is about halfway across the known universe. It’s a badly focused picture with little real detail that is actually somewhat reminiscent of those first photographs taken in the early 19th century but you can recognize the flying dinosaur.
Billy Meier

This photograph wasn’t published in any of Meier’s books as near as I can tell, but was shown around the United States as part of a program about Meier’s space and time travels. I wanted to find a way to connect it to Meier as the photographer because some of what I had seen didn’t provide any real source. I did find a connection at:


In the course of the presentation, it was said that Meier had taken the picture, as he had those of other dinosaurs. We were even treated to a picture of Meier in a spacesuit walking about on another planet, outside the spacecraft so that he could get the pictures (which has been identified as a picture from a science fiction movie).

Karumudi Mahesh Chowdary tells me the video showing two people flipping through an album containing Meier's space and time travel photographs are Wendelle Stevens (flipping the album) and Randolph Winters (holding camcorder) in 1989. Winters and Wendelle are just flipping through Meier’s album taking pictures of the pictures Meier had taken. But as I say this established a link between Meier and the picture of the Pteranodano.

Note that the alleged trip was in July 1975. That date is important because various researchers and interested parties found a much clearer illustration of that particular dinosaur in a book about dinosaurs. The illustration was apparently painted in 1960 and appeared in a book published in 1972, or some three years before Meier took the picture. This would seem to prove, in at least one case, Meier had attempted to pass off a poor photograph of a painting by an Earth-based artist as a real photograph of a dinosaur. You can see the photographs at:


The dinosaur pictures, both the painting and the alleged photograph (yes, I know it is a real photograph but it is a photograph of a painting) can be found beginning at 6:31 in this video.

Well, not so fast say the champions of Meier’s claims. This has all been explained though not as clearly as I would like. It might be that the translation I was reading wasn’t as good as it could have been so we can overlook some of the technical problems. I found my way to:


That provided another look at the illustration and the photograph that didn’t add much information to what I had already learned. However, there was a button at the bottom of the page that took me to:


Here we learn that Meier didn’t take the photograph, but it was in with those that he had taken. Now the story becomes a little more complicated, but I think I have sorted it out. We are told, “In their blindness and their investigative delusion, BEAM’s [BEAM being Meier’s initials or in other words, it is Meier] opponents stubbornly and firmly maintain that the aforementioned photo was personally taken by ‘Billy’ on the space journey in July of 1975, without concerning themselves, however, with the true history of its origin and the actual contexts of the picture.”

Well, we did see a video of that claim being made. That the picture had been taken by Meier, so those who are suggesting it have a good case. But, again, there is another twist here. “After the freshly developed dinosaur pictures were in the hands of ‘Billy,’ these were seen and inspected by Quetzal [Quetzal was Commander of all Plejaren stations in our solar system]. During this, dozens of pictures were noted by him, which quite clearly could not have come from the world NEBER [the planet Meier visited in July 1975] and, therefore, had not been taken by ‘Billy,’ about which Quetzal got very angry. It was obvious that false and manipulated pictures had been foisted on BEAM once more by a foreign hand. Many of the pictures had obviously been photographed from a book and were to have been smuggled into BEAM’s photo collection as so-called cuckoo’s eggs.”

So Meier had them in a photo album that itself was photographed by Horn and Stevens. While that doesn’t seem to match with the later tale, we learn, “Before the original photos were removed and destroyed by Quetzal, however, the foundation member of FIGU, Guido Moosbrugger, came into the possession of some copies. However, he had to make the promise to the Plejaren and ‘Billy,’ never to make the copies available to the public or to get rid of these in any way because the falsification from a foreign hand was also among the preserved photos. Should he fail to comply with the instruction, the pictures would have to be immediately confiscated and destroyed by the Plejaren, as this also happened with the originals of ‘Billy.’ To this day, Guido Moosbrugger feels bound to his promise and has always kept the pictures under wraps.”

But, of course, he didn’t because somehow the picture was released, even if only on a poor-quality video made of the pictures in Meier’s photo album. But that still doesn’t actually explain where they originated. The excuse:

The Plejaren’s investigations into this incident yielded the following: Since the “Men in Black” organization, which committed itself to “Billy,” couldn’t eliminate him after several failed assassination attempts (ultimately 21 of these overall), it very strongly forced individuals who were cooperating with “Billy,” like the aforementioned photographer Schmid, to bring BEAM into discredit. So they meticulously planned their intrigues and defamation for the long run; consequently, the effects of their machinations should have first begun to work themselves out in the near future. Several times, the “Men in Black” also tried to achieve their goal at the Semjase Silver Star Center with attacks on the vehicles of the members or by intimidations and kidnapping attempts of the children, etc. In this form, also the photographer Schmid, whom “Billy” had incorporated with the permission of the Pleiadians/Plejaren, was forced by the "Men in Black" to produce falsifications of the photographs. On several occasions, pictures that Schmid had received from “Billy” were falsified from the ground up or replaced by forgeries, as this also happened with the Asket and Nera photos and with the aforementioned dinosaur photo. In this way, Eduard A. Meier, already at the beginning of his contacts with the Pleiadians/Plejaren, received false slides, negatives or manipulated photos back from Schmid unnoticed. This photographer has passed away in the meantime and, therefore, is no longer able to provide any information at all on these machinations. [Isn’t that convenient?]
Ironically, it seems that:

The fact is that the opponents of “Billy” never concerned themselves in an honest form with the true origin of the purported dinosaur pictures and did not investigate the actual source. Otherwise, they would have discovered that the purported pictures were not put into circulation by FIGU or “Billy” Meier but by a malevolent, foreign hand [Michael Horn and Wendelle Stevens?], with the intent to harm him. Many allegedly notable UFO researchers and self-proclaimed Meier experts, in their investigative delusion, have jumped on the train of falsification and prevarication, without examining the true sources. This practice can be found on the Internet in innumerable articles about BEAM. Nevertheless, the actual truth about the photo will one day let so many ufologists leap over the shadow of embarrassing disgrace. In actual fact, no sound evidence exists, which proves that the aforementioned photo was taken by “Billy” Meier. With not a single word or written testimony has BEAM ever claimed this on his own, and indeed, because of the simple fact that the aforementioned picture of the pterosaur, along with many other forgeries, had not been taken by “Billy” Eduard Albert Meier himself but had been foisted on him by a foreign hand [though on the video, that claim is made]. These facts correspond to the truth, even if the truth doesn’t want to be accepted by his opposition – as is the case so often.
Finally, to explain all of this, we learn:

The truth about the so-called dinosaur photos will hardly be published by the notorious occupational critics because through the aforementioned photo, a certain inconsistency in the Meier UFO Case can actually be found – an inconsistency that certainly makes sense since the image does, in fact, concern a forgery. To the disappointment of all the glorious investigative specialists, the forgery was, however, not created by BEAM but rather by his opposition – completely in line with: BEAM’s Men in Black opponents hoodwink BEAM’s ufologist opponents. There, two drunks probably beat on each other’s fingers[whatever the hell that means]. But at least a good job must be granted to BEAM’s opponents, with regard to the discovery of this forgery. The book found to have been used for this is not a bad achievement and is also of good use for FIGU. As a critical, searching, and inquiring human being - even in the case of “Billy” Meier – I am fully aware of a certain sense of achievement in investigation. I must admit, however, that I much prefer to use my time and energy for an argumentation in favor of the true truth about BEAM than for superficial and blind faultfinding.
But that’s not all. According to Matt Knight in a comment to this blog, the copyright date on the book had been changed as just another way to discredit Meier. Knight wrote to my earlier post, “I've finally realized what Mahesh's [another of those posting a comment] problem is. He obviously has never experienced life in a culture where making backdated books to fool the public would be taken very seriously by authorities and would be a punishable crime if it were true [I’m not sure what crime this would be]. Switzerland is not the kind of country where anyone can make cheap knock-off T-shirts, passports, websites, or, blogs and claim they have real value.”

In case it wasn’t clear there, Horn added, “To follow up on Matt's correct assessment of Mahesh's problems in part stemming from lack of experience with a culture such as Switzerland, Mahesh fails to understand the mechanism of pre-digital book publishing, where it was common for books to take a year - or even years - to be published.”

So now we have a couple of excuses for way the fake picture was claimed to be one that Meier had taken. First, it wasn’t taken by him but slipped into a bunch of other pictures that he had taken as a way to discredit him. The Men in Black did it or maybe it was the CIA.

Now we learn that the book that held the actual illustration, had a faked copyright date on it. A backdated book to fool the public so that we can see the vast conspiracy out there attempting to discredit Meier.

Then Horn chimes in with the fact that books, back in the old days which, of course, was the last part of the 20th century, sometimes took months and even years to be published. This would be relevant if the book was copyrighted at the time of submission of the manuscript, but that’s not the way it worked. The copyright date was the month and year in which it was published.

What we are left with is evidence that Meier had taken a picture of a Pteranodon that was an illustration from a book published two years earlier. Caught with this problem, we learn that Meier hadn’t taken the picture but some unidentified organization whose mission it was to discredit Meier had taken the picture and slipped it in with all the others that Meier had taken on that day in July. It’s not completely clear how they might have done that, only that they had.

That picture, identified as a fake by Quetzal, and who demanded that it be destroyed, failed to get that done, and the next thing we know it is being circulated by Meier’s pals, Horn and Stevens, as the real thing. But when it is discovered that it was part of another, earlier book, we learn that this was not a picture taken by Meier but someone else. You just have to ask if any of this makes any sense at all.


These are the facts as presented about this picture. Is this alone enough to discredit Meier, or was it really some conspiracy cooked up by the Men in Black. I believe this does suggest something about the reliability of the Meier testimony. Others, I guess, will disagree.