Showing posts with label Richard Doty. Show all posts
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Thursday, November 22, 2018

X-Zone Broadcast Network - Special Edition, Steve Bassett


In what I think of as a “Special Edition” of the radio version of “A Different Perspective,” I spoke with Steven Bassett, he of the Paradigm Research Group, and a driving force behind Disclosure. That means, simply, that he believes the government is wrong to withhold the information they have about alien visitation, and they should disclose it immediately.

The show was two hours long, but was broken into two one-hour segments. You can listen to both of them here:


and here


I did begin the show with a bit of a tribute to my old friend, Brad Steiger. He had
Brad Steiger
died recently, and I wanted to say a few words about him.

And, I sort of went off-script (though there really isn’t a script) by asking Steven what he thought about the original MJ-12 documents. He was unaware of the book that Bill Moore, Richard Doty and Bob Pratt had written a couple of years prior to the MJ-12 documents surfacing. I did explain all that in Roswell in the 21st Century.

We then moved onto the USS Nimitz “tic tac” video of something near the carrier group. Two fighters, already airborne, intercepted the object, recorded it using their onboard equipment, and returned to the carrier. I asked Steve (eventually, it comes in the last segment) if the Pentagon had offered an identification of the object.

This led to a discussion of Disclosure, the idea that the government would eventually tell what it knows about UFOs, or as Steve and many others prefer, UAPs (Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon). While that it probably a more apt description of what is going on, it just doesn’t have the zip of UFO (and yes, I said
Steve Bassett
zip on purpose).

We do talk about the history of UFO investigation, showing that it has been ongoing since, at the very least, 1947, though there is evidence that it began, unofficially, in the United States in late 1946. We do get into some of the history that is hidden behind a thick veil of secrecy. Although we didn’t have the time to get into it in depth, there were hints of where to search for more information. This is a topic that demands more information but too much of it is guesswork, speculation, or a reliance on uncorroborated insider information.

For more information on Steven Bassett and the Paradigm Research Group see:


Wednesday, December 03, 2014

Project Pounce and MJ-12


While working on my new book, I stumbled across a reference to Project Pounce and I remembered that it was one of those projects that had been associated with MJ-12. Linda Howe might have been the first to have heard of Pounce, or I suppose, I should say the first outside of those inventing these things.

According to the information I have, Howe met Richard Doty, he of the AFOSI at the time on, April 9, 1983, in Doty’s office at Kirkland Air Force Base in Albuquerque. He told her that his superiors had told him to show her a document. He handed her several sheets of paper and told her that she could read them but that she couldn’t copy them.

The document was called, “A Briefing for the President of the United States on the Subject of Unidentified Flying Vehicles.” There was no date on the report, and the president wasn’t named. Howe didn’t know for which president it had been prepared though later information from others would suggest that this was part of the Carter Briefing.

Mentioned on this document were several classified projects including Aquarius, Snowbird, Sigma and Pounce. According to these documents, Snowbird was a cover for Project Red Light, which was a project to fly recovered alien craft. Snowbird was to develop some type of flying saucer using conventional technology as a cover for Red Light.

Snowbird was an actual project and has been described by Barry Greenwood as a “Joint Army/Air Force peacetime military exercise in the sub-arctic region in 1955, according to Gale Research’s Code Name Dictionary, 1963.” (See MUFON UFO Journal Number 236, December 1987, p. 12) It had nothing to do with UFOs, aliens, or MJ-12.

And now we have the information on Project Pounce. According to the MJ-12 documents, Pounce was created in 1980. It would use the Air Force “Black Berets” for crash retrievals including the recovery of the craft and the bodies of the occupants, if there were any. Steve Wilson, who claimed to have been an Air Force colonel, said that he had been the executive officer of Pounce. Wilson’s story unraveled when it was established that he had not been an Air Force colonel (See the entry here on November 16, 2006 for more information about Wilson).

According to Ed Ruppelt who mentioned Project Pounce in his 1956 book, and Joel Carpenter writing in the International UFO Reporter in the Fall 2001 issue, page 4, Pounce began when an Air Defense Command colonel, tired of all the UFO reports near his base in New Mexico, proposed converting some of the F-94C fighters into “UFO interceptors,” equipped with cameras and placed on 24 hour alert. While Pounce did have a UFO component, it had nothing to do with recovery of alien craft and there is nothing to connect it to the mythical MJ-12.

All of this is another example of how the information about MJ-12 and some of the ancillary projects used to support MJ-12 actually were something else entirely. These real projects were used in an attempt to give legitimacy to MJ-12, but when we learn the truth about them, we see another fallacy of MJ-12. Had these projects been what the proponents of MJ-12 said they were, it would tend to validate it. However, when we learn what they actually were, it tells us, once again, that MJ-12 is a myth.


Sunday, October 17, 2010

The End of MJ-12?

My plan had been to hold off on this until later, but with some suggesting there is still life in MJ-12, I thought I would attempt to drive a nail into this particular coffin. It is clear, based on some early research, that MJ-12 is a hoax created in the early 1980s, probably by Bill Moore and Richard Doty.

Here’s what we all seem to know. The information contained in the Eisenhower Briefing Document (EBD) reflects the state of UFO crash research in the early 1980s. Bill Moore told a number of people, and you can find their names on the Internet, that he was thinking of creating a "Roswell-style document" in an attempt to smoke out additional witnesses. Moore had said that he had taken the investigation as far as he could.

By this time it was clear to many that the Barney Barnett (who died in 1969 long before he was interviewed) connection to Roswell was weak at best. Barnett, who told his tale of seeing a crashed UFO on the Plains of San Agustin, did not have a date associated with it. Barnett was important to the earliest Roswell investigations because he mentioned seeing alien bodies and that was the only mention of bodies. That made it clear the event was extraterrestrial in nature.

The connection was drawn by J. F. "Fleck" Danley who had been Barnett’s boss in 1947, and Danley said that he had heard the tale directly from Barnett. Pushed by Moore, Danley thought the date of this story might have been 1947, and based on sighting in Roswell on July 2, Moore and others assumed the crash to have happened on July 2. This sighting, by Dan Wilmot, has little relevance to the Roswell case other than Wilmot lived in Roswell and it happened on July 2, 1947. There is no reason to connect the sighting to the crash.

When I talked to Danley it was clear that he had no real idea of when Barnett had mentioned the UFO crash. It could have been 1947, but if I pushed, I could have gotten him to come up with another date. Moore knew of the shaky nature of the Danley date.

To make it worse, I learned, in the 1990s, from Alice Knight, that Ruth Barnett had kept a diary for 1947. It is clear from that document that the crash could not have taken place on July 2, if Barnett was there. In fact, there is nothing in the diary to suggest he had seen anything extraordinary or had been involved in anything that would have been upsetting. In other words, the only document about Barney Barnett that we could find suggested that if he had seen a UFO crash, it didn’t happen in 1947.

Of course, in the early 1980s, Moore wouldn’t have known about the diary, but he did know how he had gotten Danley to give him the 1947 date. He would have known that it wasn’t true and that the Barnett story had nothing to do with the Roswell UFO crash.

This is important because it explains why there was no mention of the Plains crash in the Eisenhower Briefing Document. Moore knew that those on the inside would know that the Barnett story did not fit into the scenario. Moore left it out because it would expose the MJ-12 hoax for what it was to those who knew the truth.

And now we come to the other crash mentioned in the EBD. This is the Del Rio crash that was dated in the EBD as 1950. This is the story being told by Robert B. Willingham, who it was claimed, was a retired Air Force colonel who had seen the crash. Because he was a retired colonel, his story had credibility with those in the UFO community. I believed it for that very reason. A retired Air Force colonel would not be making up something like this.

W. Todd Zechel, a UFO researcher of limited ability, in pawing through the National Investigation Committee on Aerial Phenomena files, found a newspaper clipping about Willingham and his alleged UFO crash. Back in the mid-1970s, when Zechel found the clipping, no one was taking much notice of such stories. They were considered, at best, to be mistakes and at worst, to be hoaxes. But Zechel believed the tale, and tracked down Willingham. At Zechel’s insistence, Willingham signed an affidavit about the crash, proving to many that this was a solid case. Even the Center for UFO Studies included the Willingham story on the LP (vinyl) record they produced of interesting UFO sightings.

Moore knew of this story because Zechel had told him. In Moore’s book, The Roswell Incident, he devotes a brief mention to the case which establishes the link between Zechel, Willingham and Moore. More to the point, Moore believed the story for the same reason that the rest of us did. Willingham was a retired colonel.

The thinking is easy to follow. Del Rio is a real crash, but Moore didn’t have all the details. Those belonged to Zechel and what he had learned from Willingham. But Moore believed this to be real and if those on the inside were going to believe MJ-12, he had to mention this crash. Without the details, he simply added a single paragraph to the EBD that suggested the craft had been nearly incinerated upon impact, which, in reality, wasn’t that far from what Willingham originally said.

So, the MJ-12 document, using the information developed by Zechel and supplied by Willingham, said, "On 06 December, 1950, (sic) a second object, probably of similar origin, impacted the earth at high speed in the El-Indio – Guerrero area of the Texas – Mexican boder [sic] after following a long trajectory through the atmosphere. By the time a search team arrived, what remained of the object had been almost totally (sic) incinerated. Such material as could be recovered was transported to the A.E.C. facility at Sandia, New Mexico, for study."

The situation, then, in the early 1980s was that Roswell was a real crash, the Plains might be but the date was wrong, Aztec was a hoax, as proven in repeated investigations, and Del Rio was real because there was an Air Force officer who said so. Which, of course, explains why both the Plains and Aztec were left out and Del Rio was included.

I learned, as I was working on Crash – When UFOs Fall from the Sky, that no one had checked on Willingham’s credentials. I became suspicious when the date of the crash shifted from 1950 to 1955. I asked, but no one had ever looked into Willingham’s background. Apparently everyone thought someone else had done it, most believing that Zechel had conducted that research. The whole case hinged on the credibility of Willingham.

But Willingham had not been an officer, had not been in the Air Force, had not been a fighter pilot and had not been in a position to see a UFO crash. In fact, though I didn’t find the newspaper clipping, I did find a one paragraph report in the February/March 1968 issue of Skylook that gave the crash date as 1948, and suggested that there had been three objects. Nearly everything about that original case had changed, some times more than once. It was clear that Willingham had invented his Air Force career, was not a retired colonel, and had served just 13 or 14 months from December 1945 to January 1948 as a low-ranking enlisted soldier.

If Willingham, as the sole witness to the crash had invented the tale, then there was no Del Rio crash and the MJ-12 documents, or rather the EBD, was a fake. But in the early 1980s, Moore didn’t know this, most of the UFO community didn’t know this, and Willingham was still talking about the 1950 date.

Yes, I know what the answer to this will be. What relevance does Willingham have to MJ-12? Two separate issues. Except, they aren’t. There is no other witness, document, indication, suggestion, or mention of the Del Rio case without Willingham. If not for his discussion about the case in 1968, if not for Zechel’s interview of him in the 1970s, there would be no mention of a Del Rio UFO crash anywhere. That it is mentioned in the MJ-12 EBD, and we can draw a line from Willingham to Zechel to Moore, that suggests all we need to know about this. There was no Del Rio UFO crash and if there was none, then it shouldn’t have been mentioned in the Eisenhower Briefing Document.

If we look at the state of UFO research today, we realize that much of what was said in the EBD about Roswell was not quite right and the information about Del Rio completely wrong. The more we learn about the events in Roswell, and the more we learn about the lack of detail for Del Rio, the better the case against MJ-12 becomes.

Couple the other problems to this, the lack of provenance, the typographical errors, the incorrect dating format, and the anachronistic information, then the only conclusion possible is that there is no MJ-12. There never was, except for a 1980 unpublished novel written by the late Bob Pratt with the assistance of Bill Moore and Richard Doty. The only question left is how long are we going to have to listen to the nonsense that is MJ-12.