MUFON’s Executive Director, Jan Harzan was the guest on this edition of A Different Perspective. We began by talking about the trends in UFO reporting, if there are more sightings, fewer, or has it remained steady. I wondered if, in the world today, they were solving more of the cases than they had in the past. You can listen to the show here:
We talked about the To The Stars Academy, and if they communicated with one
another. Seems that there is interaction between the two, but there is a
difference in the missions of the two organizations with MUFON more engaged in
UFO research and TTSA following a somewhat different business model.
One of the things we talked about was the increase in the number of military witnesses coming forward. I wondered about the vetting of these witnesses because, in my experience, there were far too many who claimed military service or high military rank who either hadn’t served or were inflating their credentials. We did talk about the difficulty of vetting these witnesses given some of the roadblocks in getting the most accurate information.
There was one aspect of this that did bother me. I wondered if Jan had heard the skeptical argument that what the Navy pilots from the USS Nimitz had seen was a top- secret Army drone project. Jan suggested that Luis Elizondo had been in a position at the Pentagon, or in his job where he had an opportunity to review all the black projects. Had such a project existed, he would have known about it. I simply do not buy this sort of an argument.
I cite the situation in 1945, as the US raced to complete and test an atomic bomb, that Harry Truman, as vice president had not heard about it. He didn’t learn about it until President Roosevelt had died. At that point Truman became president and was briefed on it. Truman was the vice president at the time… not some fellow toiling away in the Department of Defense (and yes, I know that there was no Department of Defense in 1945… it was the Department of War and the Department of the Navy). The point is, that when you reach into the stratosphere of classified information, there really is no one who has access to everything. Sure, the president can get at it, if he knows what questions to ask, but seriously, would Elizondo be privy to everything?
At the end of the program, I mentioned Don Burleson’s article that appeared in a recent issue of The MUFON Journal. When Don appeared on this program, I asked him about some of this and while I don’t mean to pick on Don, I was concerned about the “speculation” in the article that could be read as established fact. For those who missed that interview, you can listen to it here:
Next week, I’ll be talking with Charles Halt about the Rendlesham Forest encounter. The following week is Michael Shermer of Skeptic magazine. If you have questions, put them in the comments section here and I’ll get them asked on the program.