Sunday, July 23, 2023

Some Thoughts on Rep. Don Bacon's Wednesday UFO Hearing

 

New York Democratic senator and Senate majority leader, Chuck Schumer, is pushing for legislation for a board review of classified documents that relate to UFOs, though they insist on calling them UAPs.

This is a rare bipartisan effort with Republican Senator Mike Rounds of South Dakota and Republican Senator Marco Rubio of Florida having voiced support for the legislation, which is attached to the National Defense Authorization Act.

This measure would require government agencies to organize their information on UFOs and provide it to a review board, which has yet to be established. The nine-member board would be appointed by President Biden. These would be people who would advocate disclosure but with an eye to national security. The President would have the authority override their decisions, which could mean providing more data or deleting some of it.

Two things about this bother me. One is that the data would be collected by the National Archives and two, the initial legislation was modeled after that passed for the release of documents relating to the Kennedy assassination. We all know how well that has gone and I will note here, apropos of nothing, that President Biden to override the release of the Kennedy files to some extent.

I will note one other point that strikes me as somewhat ironic. Some of this renewed interest in UFOs was sparked by the comments of whistleblower David Grusch. He talked of crashed craft, alien bodies and documentation. Don Schmitt and I have been talking about that for thirty years and unlike Grusch, we named names and presented documentation. For some reason the mainstream media was too sophisticated to pay attention us. I hope for better results now.

Don Schmitt and me on the Impact Site near Roswell, New Mexico.


In the previous post, I provided the name, CV, and some documentation related to what Patrick Saunders had said to me and what he told family and friends. I can think of no reason for him to have created this fantasy about having participated in the cover up, and telling his son about the craft and bodies. He also confirmed, in writing, much (some?) of what Don and I published in our earlier books about the UFO crash as I noted in the Post that follows this one.

And now we learn that on Wednesday, July 26, Tennessee Representative Tim Burchett, along with several colleagues will hold hearings about the latest in UFO information. Three of the witnesses being called to testify have been identified, and I have seen nothing to suggest there might be others on the list.

I am slightly disappointed because we will be treated to the same information that has been circulating for the last several months in some cases and a few years in others. Those being called are David Grusch, who has already said that he can’t name names at this point and that he can’t present documentation. Maybe at this hearing that will change, but without these sources available to be scrutinized, this is little more than hearsay.

The problem here is that Grusch mentioned a 1933 UFO crash and recovery in Italy. The material fell into American hands at the end of World War II. The story has been investigated by Italian UFO researchers and found to be no more reliable than the tales of MJ-12 that originated in this country. I explored this case just a few weeks ago and have to wonder that if I could learn as much as I did in a matter of hours, why Grusch believed the tale in the first place.

The other two are Ryan Graves and David Fravor, both former Navy pilots who have told their stories in the past. I’m not sure what more they can add to what has already been reported. They can just tell their stories again and I don’t know if there is going to be any sort of additional information about the sightings such as electronic confirmation.

Then there was the statement by Representative Don Bacon, a Republican from Nebraska, a retired brigadier general who told the Wall Street Journal that he had never seen a UFO, but “If I had, I’d have shot it down.”

What an incredibly ignorant thing to say. By what authority would he have shot it down? Were there standing orders that allowed him to engage a UFO? What makes him think that if he was attempting to engage a UFO, he would have been able to shoot it down? We have numerous tales by pilots in foreign lands who have engaged UFOs with no results. That would suggest that a technology that has defeated the problems of interstellar flight might be able to defeat an attack by conventional terrestrial weapons. The real problem is that such a cowboy move would suggest that we are a hostile race, probably not the image we would want to project to a spacefaring race.

And I see in his biography that he wasn’t a fighter pilot; he earned no Distinguished Flying Cross or Air Medals. Given his role in the Air Force, I’m not sure how it would have shot down anything at all. But I digress…

Getting back to the main point, I wonder if there are no additional witnesses, then what is the purpose here? If, on the other hand, Representative Burchett is looking for something more than a report of this information but would rather have some testimony about the UFO crashes that Grusch mentioned, then I suggest he examine the Roswell case. There are tapes, video and audio, from the men who were involved in the recovery operation. These range from Edwin Easley, the Roswell Provost Marshal who made it clear that he had been swore to secrecy to Patrick Saunders who talked about threats he took seriously. You can read some of that on the posting that follows.

All I am saying is that we know what the men who have been identified as witnesses are going to say, and unless Grusch provides some names and documentation, then we will learn nothing new. And yes, you can say the same thing about the information that Don and I have, but there is a difference. It has not been shared over so much media, and we do name names and have some documentation.

We do need to wait until the hearings on Wednesday to see exactly what is said, but unless there are some surprises, this will be more hype without a payoff. Eventually, we all will become bored with the hype and ask for the substance. I suggest that given the research conducted into the Roswell case by Don, Tom Carey and me, we could eliminate some of that boredom. I hope for the best but fear the worse… But then, all this has happened before… The Deep State can and does hide the truth.

9 comments:

Joeschmoe said...

It's interesting and disturbing that with all the hype over the 7-26 23 hearing very few news or entertainment media even refer to Roswell.Its treated as taboo, similar to the way the UFO subject was looked upon until December of 2017, courtesy of the NYT & WAPO,both of which have become silent regarding the Grusch allegations.
Kevin, perhaps it would behoove Rep Burchette to reach out to you

John Steiger said...

Kevin: You have herein a photo of Don and you on the Impact Site. And from your appearances, the photo seems to have been taken fairly recently.

QUERIES: How certain are you that where this photo was taken is in fact THE Impact Site?

Is this Impact site on or near the "Old Martin Ranch" as referenced in Tom Carey's and Don Schmitt's Roswell: The Chronological Pictorial book, pp. 74-77?

Is this Impact site west of Highway 285 as shown on the map on p. 77 of Tom/Don's book?

Is this Impact site in Chaves County (same as Roswell) or Lincoln County (same as Corona) to your knowledge?

Thank you for clarifying. [I ask because the site of the Foster Ranch debris field is well-identified. The Impact site not so much, which I find rather mystifying]. Kind regards! JS

KRandle said...

John -

to answer your questions...

1. Given the testimonies of various witnesses, very.

2. Yes.

3. Yes.

4. Not sure where the county lines are and frankly don't care.

And before you ask, Yes, I have other pictures.

John Steiger said...

Kevin: The reason the county matters is because of the land records. Presumably New Mexico, like most states, organizes its land records by county.

To your knowledge has anyone ever researched the land records re: the Impact Site? As in, who or what entity owned the land in July of 1947? And can any helpful evidence into the crash be developed from acquiring such knowledge? I don't recall reading anything about this (apart from the comparatively recent reference to the "old Martin ranch") in all of the extensive (and well-researched!) literature about the Roswell UFO.

There was an archaeological dig undertaken at the Foster Ranch debris field in the early 2000's. Don and Tom participated and wrote a book on it.

Has any comparable dig been undertaken at the Impact Site?

While I realize there may be nothing there underneath the site, we won't know for sure unless and until we make a rigorous search of the property.

And yes, I realize, easier said than done.

Dr. Okuma said...

In light of the current testimony to Congress as to what has been going on lately (in this millennium), my sincerest hope out of all of this is for the countless witnesses (now gone) to the the events of the Roswell incident to be finally confirmed to be truthful in what they were saying (some in their deathbeds).

Kevin, I have been following you and your writings since your first book on Roswell, and I want all of those people from the "Greatest Generation" to be finally vindicated, more than anything.

I also want to give recognition, to where it is due, for all those (like you) who have tried to get to the bottom of the truth.

We still do not have definitive, scientific-proof, but when that day comes, I will applaud you and others like you for your relentless efforts in trying bring out the truth.

KRandle said...

John -

We know who owned the land in 1947... witnesses have been interviewed and corroboration has been explored...

John Steiger said...

Kevin: Good to hear and in that case then, I hope this information is included in your much-anticipated Roswell Encyclopedia update.

Thank you.

Terry the Censor said...

>then what is the purpose here?

UFO grifters always need new rubes to feed their mystery monger Ponzi scheme. The grifters don't want you around, Kevin, because you know UFO lore and you factcheck claims. The mystery mongers go to gullible/lazy journalists who will simply repeat the claims, and attention-seeking politicians who will uncritically elevate these rumour mongers.

John-Paul Gagliano said...

Kevin Randle's probably going to hate me when he realizes how, after recently joining his blog, I've gone back and read (and commented on) almost everything he's written. That being said, he probably won't find a bigger fan anywhere on Earth than myself.

I just want to add that I can understand his (and probably Don Schmitt's) frustration with seeing Grusch given the celebrity treatment. After decades of toilsome investigative work, the world remains ignorant of who the real disclosure advocates are. I remember watching Tucker Carlson talking about UFOs and angrily telling my dad "I'm tired of seeing guys like Louis Elizondo have the red carpet rolled out for them! Tucker needs to get Kevin Randle on his show!"

Vindication for the real ufologists may be around the corner, Kevin. Until then, know that your work has touched all of us here.