Jacques
Vallee has been heard from again defending the nonsensical story of a UFO crash
near San Antonio, New Mexico in 1945. According to Douglas Dean Johnson, that
defense was published briefly on Paola Harris’ website. You can learn more
about this here:
https://douglasjohnson.ghost.io/crash-story-file-my-dad-is-a-pathological-liar/
https://douglasjohnson.ghost.io/trinity-ufo-crash-fictions-clash-with-real-atomic-history/
As I noted here a few
months ago, I had communicated with Dr. Vallee about an interview of Reme Baca conducted
and recorded by Tom Carey. In a cordial email, Vallee suggested that the fact
that Baca wanted to make some money off his experience was no different than
all of us who research, investigate and write about UFOs. You can read some of
that analysis here:
http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2023/05/my-latest-communication-with-jacques.html
And I would certainly
grant that point. There are many of us out there who have made money off our
research in magazine articles, books and even movies. I often joke about what I
call my SAGA scholarship. SAGA magazine published the UFO
Report in the 1970s and I was able to sell them enough articles that it
basically paid my college tuition. I will note that I had other income streams
as well but that’s a story for another time.
I emailed Dr. Vallee
that I wasn’t all that interested in Baca’s financial motivation, but in the
major changes in the story related to Carey and the story as told to Harris and
Dr. Vallee. I asked specific questions about it. I suspect that there was no
good answer to any of those questions because I heard nothing more about it.
Tom Carey |
I did interview Dr.
Vallee and Paola Harris on my radio show/podcast when their book was first
published. You can listen to that interview here:
http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2021/06/x-zone-broadcast-network-jacques-vallee.html
https://www.spreaker.com/user/xzoneradiotv/adp20210602ep162emjacquesvalleeandpaoloh_1
Douglas Johnson, at his
website, published a series of articles exposing the contradictions and
outright lies being told about this alleged event. I believe that anyone who
reads those articles dispassionately will realize that there had been no crash
near San Antonio, not in 1945 as now claimed or in 1947 as originally
suggested.
The real fear here is
that those in the government who are suddenly interested in UFOs, I mean UAP,
will take this alleged event seriously because of Dr. Vallee’s reputation. They
will not bother to dig any deeper than the book and an interview with Dr.
Vallee. They won’t access Douglas Johnson’s website because they don’t know who
he is even if they know about the website. They won’t be aware of the major
contradictions and the outright lies told by the witnesses about this case.
Instead, when they
finally learn the truth, they will then assume that all stories of UFOs and UAP
are some sort of terrestrial phenomena if not just lies. They will only
remember that this case, cited by a respected scientist has now been found to
be a hoax, and they will assume, by extension, other cases fall into the same
category.
If this case is one
endorsed by David Grusch and some of those other witnesses alleged to have
testified in front of Congressional committees or representatives of the
various intelligence organizations, it will suggest that much of the other
sightings cited will be similarly explained.
If I was a paranoid
person, and if I didn’t know the best way to seal an intelligence leak is to
pump bad information into that leak to discredit it, I would suggest we’re
seeing some of that here. Of course, the intelligence community didn’t have to
investigate the bad information. They had Reme Baca’s story as a starting
point. Shove in the discredited 1933 Italian UFO crash and many people will
just nod and say, “I knew it.”
Now add the Aurora,
Texas crash of 1897, and a very strong case can be made that these sorts of
stories are the result of active imaginations and hoaxes told for personal
gain, and whole investigations collapse. I mention Aurora only because it
figures in the Vallee/Paola book, Trinity. I investigated the case
before it became famous back when I lived in Texas. You can read the results of
that investigation here:
http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2005/03/aurora-texas-story-that-wont-die.html
http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2018/04/aurora-texas-again.html
http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2013/09/ufo-crashes-fifty-years-before-roswell.html
As I say, I’m worried
that those conducting the government investigations will accept what Dr. Vallee
says without critical comment. When they learn the truth about the “Trinity”
UFO crash, they’ll begin to reject all other, similar data because of the poor
investigation of Trinity. They will assume that all research is equally flawed.
And they will use this when describing their work to the public.
Yes, I have seen this
before. Nearly everyone scoffed at the Project Mogul explanation for the
Roswell debris when it was first pushed in the mid-1990s. Now, in our world, we
see that solution trotted out without any critical comment, even when the
documentation proves that Mogul wasn’t the answer.
I am interested in what
others think about this analysis and what they believe about the Trinity UFO
crash, given the information available today.
7 comments:
Hoax. Plain and simple, Trinity and Aurora.
I think Trinity is a pure invention. Someone I argued with recently in the paracast (Wingfield?) thinks it was a crashed aircraft with chimps on board, but there's no real evidence for that.
The Trinity UFO crash probably did not happen because it had no PR/media attention until recently. Forget its details, no one is listening or reading about it anyway, it's no Roswell. I've been interested in the UFO field for many years but NEVER heard about that crash till that book came out. It seems to me that the more PR/media attention is given on a particular UFO crash, it becomes more probable that it happened! Then people begin to believe it happened, rather it happened or not!
Kevin, All,
"Jacques Vallee has been heard from again defending the nonsensical story of a UFO crash near San Antonio, New Mexico in 1945." According to Douglas Dean Johnson it was all a hoax and fraud and on the surface, it appears to be that. But it is not!
It is a SNAFU. The subject is the "Alien Autopsy" and not Trinity. The crash site they describe is the crash site the camera-man leads us to. You are making a mistake by continuing your disparagement of the AA without even examining the basic facts.
I would think that you would like to know the truth.
Ed
Jacques Vallee, the fall of an icon. Case closed.
Ed -
I am tired of you complaint that I haven't, and others haven't examine the basic facts. I am astonished that you refuse to accept the overwhelming evidence that the AA is a hoax. It seems that no amount of evidence will ever convince you of the truth. This is the last time I will post a comment by you referring to the AA.
I believe Vallee is a man of character and understands UFO phenomena very far ahead of others. He is a scientist, and a credible man.
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