Kingman, Skeptics and UAP

 

Back on August 14, I had a chat with Robert Sheaffer, a reasonable skeptic. I have always thought that we need to know how the other side thinks if for no other reason than to prepare rational and intelligent counterarguments. We had a good conversation about a variety of topics, but concentrated on the information that has come out in the last few years. I was interested in his take on the Tic-Tac videos and if the skeptical community had an alternative to the suggestion of off-world craft preforming exotic and impossible maneuvers. He provided some interesting commentary on those videos.

Robert Sheaffer

For those who have been paying attention, I did interview Kevin Day, one of the sailors on one of the ships involved in the sightings from the USS Nimitz task group that sparked the renewed interest in UFOs. While Sheaffer provided a suggestion that involved electronic glitches, Day suggested that along with the sensor detections, there were visual sightings as well. You can review the Kevin Day interviews, both audio and visual here:

https://rumble.com/v58bktu-a-different-perspective-with-kevin-randle-interviews-kevin-day-uaps-and-tic.html

https://www.spreaker.com/episode/a-different-perspective-with-kevin-randle-kevin-day-us-navy-witness-to-nimitz-uaps-and-tic-tac--60795293

Toward the end of the interview, I did ask Robert what he wanted in the way of evidence that would suggest alien visitation. His answer surprised me. You and listen to the audio and watch the video here:

https://rumble.com/v5b6gx6-a-different-perspective-with-kevin-randle-interviews-robert-sheaffer-uap-an.html

https://www.spreaker.com/episode/a-different-perspective-with-kevin-randle-interviews-robert-sheaffer-uap-and-disclosure--61052753

The following week, based on the sudden interest in the Kingman, Arizona crash, I flew solo, which means there was no guest. I had reached out to several people about coming on the show but only heard back for David Rudiak. He was continuing his search for additional information and asked for a delay of a week or two. He’ll be coming up soon with some additional insight into the Kingman crash.

David Rudiak

I also reached out to proponents of the crash who have, in the past, been ready to tell their side of the story. Neither Harry Drew nor Preston Dennett bothered to respond to my invitations. I have seen Dennett talking about the Kingman crash on other venues and have read the relevant parts of his book that contains information on Kingman. There are many problems with his analysis.

I was also concerned because the Mohave Museum of History and Arts in Kingman, was reported to have documents relating to the crash. But given some of the research I was able to conduct from my armchair, I don’t believe they have anything from an official source. I do know that they have a copy of Ray Fowler’s report on the crash, though I don’t know if the have the whole file. I suspect they do, and we know that part of that file contains the information about Arthur Stansel’s claims of astral projection and interaction with alien beings. Other documents shown were a collection of newspaper articles, which is documentation, but not necessarily accurate information. You can read about that here:

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2024/08/the-kingman-ufo-crash-connumdrum.html

Of course, the Kingman crash was the topic of my solo show. You can listen to the audio and watch the video here:

https://rumble.com/v5bvewk-a-different-perspective-with-kevin-randle-interview-the-kingman-ufo-crash-a.html

https://www.spreaker.com/episode/a-different-perspective-with-kevin-randle-the-kingman-ufo-crash-a-controversial-claim--61108883

The research into the Kingman crash has become important because it has been claimed to have happened and I believe it is one of David Grusch’s twelve UFO crashes. I did speculation on the list of possible crashes to which he referred and you can read that here:

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2024/04/david-grusch-and-his-ufo-crashes.html

Granted my list is speculation but I believe, based on other research, it is fairly accurate. As I have said, I believe that Grusch is accurately repeating what he has heard which, of course, doesn’t mean the events he heard about happened. The lone exception is the Roswell case (though if Shag Harbour made the list, that would be a second).

There will be more to come on this topic. I have been reading Lue Elizondo’s book, Imminent, and will report on it later. My first impression is that it doesn’t advance our knowledge of UFOs, or as he calls them throughout, UAP. But that is a discussion for another time.