Some of the Promised Updates

 

As I have said a number of times during my various radio appearances, when I have additional information, I’ll publish it. So, here we go.

For those who wonder about the photographs taken in Bettendorf Iowa, on December 24, 2021, I have heard back from the MUFON State Director for Iowa. He reported that no investigation had been initiated in Iowa, but he also checked with Illinois and Missouri with the same negative results. At the moment, I have nothing more on those pictures.

The Bettendorf UFO.

David Marler said, during my interview with him, that skeptics had suggested that sightings of triangular-shaped objects were sparked by Star Wars. Many of the Imperial ships had a very distinctive, triangular shape. David pointed out that sightings of triangles predated Star Wars and provided an example from 1953. I mentioned a chart published in the early 1960s showed triangles as one of the shapes. Someone wanted to know where to find that chart. It was published in several magazines and a couple of books. Here is the chart from the 1964 UFO Evidence published by NICAP.

The UFO shapes chart, circa 1964

I also found a magazine article that dealt with the look of future aviation which included a number of test aircraft that are triangular in shape. We do have the B-1 bomber and the F-117 aircraft that had triangular shapes. This suggests that some of the uptick in such sightings might be the result of tests of these somewhat experimental aircraft.

There is additional evidence of this. On April 14, 2016, an amateur photographer, Jeff Templin, shot a picture of a triangular craft over Wichita, Kansas. Templin said that he used a 400 mm lens, and took the picture when the object was directly overhead. He said that it was making a series of “S” turns and was leaving a contrail behind.

A real triangle, though terrestrial based.

On March 10, two men in Amarillo, Texas, Steve Douglass and Dean Muskett took pictures of three triangles flying over the city. They resembled the craft in Templin’s picture.

I mention this because it does support the idea that some of the triangle sightings are not of alien spacecraft, but are of the next generation of terrestrial airplanes. This does not, of course, solve all cases of triangular UFOs. It just means that some of those sightings are of Earth-base craft rather than space ships.

A triangular balloon that can also fool a witness.

And, if we look into the future, meaning of course, what is being proposed by various aircraft manufacturers, we see that the triangle shape is becoming more common. As more of these aircraft are mistaken for something alien, we also must be aware that sightings of triangular UFOs predate the development of our terrestrial based craft. A solution of one sighting does not translate into the solution for all sightings.

'X' Zone Broadcast Network - David Marler and Triangular UFOs

 

My guest was David Marler, who I had invited on to talk about triangular-shaped UFOs and the scanning project that involved files and documents from a variety of sources, including CUFOS, NICAP and CSI (Civilian Saucer Intelligence). Before I introduced him, I had a couple of other comments to make. You can listen to the radio broadcast here:

https://www.spreaker.com/episode/49264301

And you can watch the show here:

https://rumble.com/vz47dh-kevin-randle-interviews-david-marler-cufos-scanning-project.html?mref=yqaz3&mc=8uhns

I mentioned that back in the middle of the 1990s, I hosted a radio show on KTSM-AM in El Paso, Texas. Although it was mainly about UFOs, I did delve into some

Hosting the radio show in Texas.

other aspects of the paranormal. I was able to book many guests who had experiences with UFOs, investigated UFOs, and believed them to be alien spacecraft. On the other hand, I couldn’t get any skeptics to participate in the program with the exception of Philip Klass, probably because I knew him personally.

This is relevant in the world today because it seems that it is easier to book a skeptic than someone on the other side of the fence. I’m not sure why, but I suspect it might be because they know they won’t get a free pass on my program. I’m going to ask tough questions and I expect the guest to answer the questions rather than dance off into evasion.

The second point I talked about was a new challenge to the veracity of the General Exon interviews. One fellow approached CUFOS asking for copies of the tapes and transcripts. Told that they were unavailable, he said that he would tell anyone who asked that the quotes were unsubstantiated.

Well, that’s untrue, and for those who would like to see the evidence, scroll on down to the following article. I’ve laid it out there, again, in great detail, including the letter from Exon acknowledging that the quotes are accurate.

David Marler

I brought on David Marler, and we began a discussion of the history of triangular-shaped UFOs. He did point out that sightings of triangles were not new, as some of the skeptics had suggested. One even talked about the inspiration being Star Wars… but, of course sightings of triangles predated the release of the movie in 1977

 As an example of these older triangle reports, he mentioned a sighting from the Albany, Georgia, area on January 28, 1953. It involved both a visual sighting and a radar contact. The Air Force labeled the visual sightings as “astro, (Venus),” meaning an astronomical answer, and the radar as “unidentified.”

Ed Ruppelt, wrote an article about UFOs for True, and one of the cases he touched on was this sighting. He wrote:

On January 28, 1953, at 9:35 p.m., a jet pilot near Albany, Ga., spotted “an extremely bright light” at 10 o’clock high. At first he thought it was another aircraft or an unusually bright star, but when he went up to 10,000 feet it appeared to be ahead and a bit below him. When first spotted, the light was white, but later it began changing constantly from white to orange and back to white again. The object was in view for 17 minutes. In the last 15 second it changed shape from circular to triangular, and the triangles split into two triangles – one immediately above the other – and both disappeared as if someone had snapped off a light.

The pilot called Albany, Ga., but before he could make his amazed report, ground asked him if he had seen anything unusual. They advised him that ground radar had picked up both his jet and a strange target. On the radar scope, when the jet had speeded up, the target had stepped up too, to maintain its lead on him.

There was, of course, a report to ATIC that provided some of the same information. The only differences are minor. For example, in the Air Force report, the object, for the last three minutes of the sighting, cycled from white to orange and back, but in the last fifteen seconds “turned a deep red color and triangular in shape… No trail or exhaust… PRPLN (propulsion) SYS UNK.”

David mentioned that the older reports suggested that the triangular craft were moving with the blunt end forward, which would not seem to be aerodynamic. Later reports had the apex leading which caused me to wonder if this might be a way to discriminate between something strange and something that reflects the current development of terrestrial craft.

We did talk about the scanning project which seems to be as massive as the one that Clas Svahn talked about a few weeks ago. There are many people involved in it including Jan Alrich and Barry Greenwood, as well as Mark Rodeghier. The ultimate goal is to create a digital archive that could be accessed by UFO researchers and interested parties on the Internet. The physical documents will end up in a collect at the university in Albuquerque.

Next week, I’ll chatting with Don Schmitt about the current state of UFO research and why we all should reject the nonsensical UAP designation. If you have questions, and Don has said that no topic is taboo, put them in the comments. They won’t be posted, and I’ll try to get them answered.

Coast to Coast - Triangular UFOs

 

As we all know, triangular shaped UFOs are being seen on a regular basis now. You have to wonder if there has been some improvement in the alien ships, or if there are different races using different sort of craft, or if this is a result of our technology. I think I have a partial answer for that.

On June 19 of this year, the witness in Leesburg, Florida, said he was outside about seven in the morning when he heard an aircraft approaching and then flying directly overhead. He said that it looked dark, more black than charcoal, was triangular with two structures protruding from that rear. He wondered if it could an F-117 or possibly an F-22 but it didn’t look like either of those. He thought it might be a new type of stealth aircraft but thought it might be a UFO. The UFO was in sight for about five minutes.

On June 16, the witness in Streetsboro, Ohio, was walking his dog about 9:30, when he noticed three bright lights hovering. They eventually morphed into a single bright light. He said that it seemed the light was rotating. He said that after about two minutes, another UFO arrived, this one looked as if it was being chased by a fighter. He said there was an extremely loud explosion that made him wonder if the fighter had broken the sound barrier. The UFOs made no sound. The witness said that it was all recorded on video and that he would upload it to the Internet. If I find a link, I’ll post it to my blog.

One of the Navy's latest pictures of a UAP... with a triangular shape.

From Phoenixville, Pennsylvania, on June 9 comes the report of a triangular-shaped object hovering about fifty feet in the air with two steady lights in front and multiple blinking lights on the sides. There were multiple lights on the bottom. The witnesses said the object was slowing rising. Unlike most sightings, the object was very loud. It moved in a zig-zag motion and it would speed up and slow down. The witnesses reported there was video of the object but hasn’t posted it.

Also on June 9, the witness in Arlington, Virginia, was stopped in traffic. In front, at an elevation of 45 degrees and at about 1500 feet up in the sky, were three objects. Each was followed by a long and twisted contrail of about 1000 feet or more. The contrails were identical for each of the objects suggesting they were flying in formation. They were a brown or reddish color rather than the white of a normal contrail.

The UFOs moved in a random pattern, often crossing each other’s path. The witness reported a regular airplane nearby that had its nose wheel in a fixed down position. The witness thought the UFOs might be skydivers or hang gliders deployed to either report on the stricken plane or provide some sort of assistance. However, and according to the witness, the airplane was obviously an airplane and shortly after he saw the plane two of the objects, along with their contrails vanished. Moments later, the third object vanished as well. The witness wanted to take a video but was unable to figure out how to use the cell phone camera.

The witness said that it all happened in daylight and would be surprised if there weren’t other witnesses to the event.

Finally, I found a report posted in the last few days to YouTube that had a discussion of triangular-shaped craft including sightings made during the first Gulf War. You can find it here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFL_omb1P_o

The increase in the number of triangular UFO reports might be a result of a change in our technology. Given the look of the stealth fighters and the B-1 bomber, triangular-shaped aircraft are now a part of our technology. That, I think, influences the descriptions provided by witnesses. It is a matter of perception and is a change in the descriptive language as opposed to an increase in the number of sightings.

Remember, in the late 1940s, many UFOs were described as flying saucers or flying disks regardless of shape. We seem to have moved in that direction today where three lights or craft in a formation become a triangular craft. That, at least, is my speculation at the moment, subject to change as the situation changes.

X-Zone Broadcast Network - David Marler and Triangular UFOs

 

My main guest was David Marler who wrote Triangular UFOs: An Estimate of the Situation. However, before I spoke with him, I took a few moments to reflect on the death of Cliff Stone. Although I didn’t find many of his tales credible, he did have a wide-ranging knowledge of UFOs and was responsible for a great deal of information that had been obtained through FOIA, including information about Project Moon Dust and Operation Blue Fly. That also resulted in the Air Force being caught in a couple of lies about Moon Dust and Blue Fly projects.

David Marler

David Marler, a careful and dedicated researcher, provided some insights into his investigation of triangular UFOs and how he became interested in them. He noted that they have become a predominate shape here in the 21^st century, though in the past, sightings of them had been infrequent. He talked about one of the very first sightings from the late 19^th century when astronomers saw triangular objects against the backdrop of the moon. You can listen to the interview here:

https://www.spreaker.com/episode/43515728

He described some sightings made by pilots, including one near a British airport in which the object violated the operating space of that airport. It was investigated by the CAA, the British equivalent of our FAA and they found no logical explanation for the sighting. The details can be found during the interview.

Another of the pilot sightings he mentioned, this one involving both radar and a military pilot, was from Albany, Georgia, on January 28, 1953, and reported to Project Blue Book. I found it interesting that the case was “sort of” investigated by the Air Force. This was during the time that the Robertson Panel was discussing the reality of UFOs and deciding there was nothing to them. Their recommendations were implemented not long after the Panel concluded their work. Here is some of the information from the Georgia case as found in the Blue Book files.

He also talked about a multiple witness sighting in which a number of police officers, scattered around southern Illinois made a series of sightings. It was described in the March 2000 issue of the MUFON UFO Journal. You can read about this case, as written up by Darryl Parker here:

http://dbarkertv.com/default.htm

We also talked about some of the attributes of the triangular-shaped objects. He knew of no case in which one of these objects landed, with the possible exception the Rendlesham Forest craft. The Rendlesham object did not fit into the triangular category easily.

He mentioned that there were some sightings that did involve occupants, but they were seen through windows on the craft and were silhouettes seen against a backdrop of bright lights. They were described as humanoid, but there was little in the way of external detail.

According to Marler, the triangular UFOs almost never make a sound, do not manifest EM Effects, and sometimes seem to shape shift. I did wonder if that was the result of changing perspectives rather than the craft actually changing shape.

Next up is Steven Bassett. We’ll talk about Disclosure, changes in the attitudes about UFOs, and what the new administration might have to say about UFOs. Questions can be appended here and I’ll get them asked. With Marler, I did get answers to the questions sent in, but not always by asking them specifically. The answers came up naturally in the flow of the discussion.

Coast to Coast - November 12, 2020 - Triangular UFOs

 

As those of you who visit here regularly know, I do something that I call chasing footnotes. Sometimes it’s just chasing references to find the original source. This latest episode came about because I wondered when the first triangular-shaped UFO had been reported. I wondered this because reports of triangles seemed to have exploded in the last few years, but this wasn’t a shape widely reported in the past.

I found several references that suggested that the first recorded triangle sighting was made in the 1890s in the Dutch East Indies. None of these sources gave any details and it took a while to track this down.

I eventually made it to David Marler’s book about Triangular UFOs: An Estimate of the Situation, but that wasn’t the end of the trail. Marler quoted Don Keyhoe who seems to be the source. Keyhoe reported on the sighting in his Flying Saucers Are Real. You can read the book here:

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/5883

Keyhoe wrote that in 1890 “several large bodies were sighted hovering over the Dutch East Indies. Most accounts described them as roughly triangular, about one hundred feet on the base and two hundred feet on the sides. But some observers thought they might be longer and narrower, with a rounded base; this would make them agree with more recent stories of cone-shaped objects with rounded tops seen in American skies.” This all the Keyhoe said about the sighting and he provides no references for us.

That wasn’t the earliest of the triangular UFO sightings, however. According to Marler, the Scientific American (vol 46 pg. 49) reported that people in Lebanon, Connecticut, on July 3, 1882, saw two luminous appearances on “the moon’s upper limb (as Fort wrote [which Marler cites as his source]). These disappeared and were replaced by two dark, triangular appearances three minutes later on the moon’s lower limb.”

I have tried to track this down but have failed. The Scientific American is on line and I have read through that issue. It is also true that I might have missed it. Depending on how important the story was it might have been just a quick, small note. And, it’s important to remember that the Scientific American is not the same as it is today. It was more of a newspaper in the 19^th century.

This, of course, showed that reports of triangular UFOs have been around for

A young Mike Rogers.

decades. It wasn’t until late in the 20^th century that they came to prominence. During the Phoenix Lights in 1999, there were sightings of a triangular UFO that moved from Nevada south toward the Phoenix area. Mike Rogers, yes, that Mike Rogers, told me he had seen the object as it passed overhead. He said that it was huge and that although he attempted to interest others in his report, they were more focused on the lights seen over the city than they were of a dark object that didn’t fit the narrative. His sighting of the triangle, and that of others, was lost in the discussion of the Phoenix Lights.

One of the more exciting sightings of a triangle seemed to be from El Paso, Texas, on August 31, 2018. The witness said that he was driving to work when he saw the strange, triangular-shaped object. He said that he thought it was weird so he grabbed his cell phone, took several pictures of it and then made a short video. Here is the link:

https://www.mufon.com/?gclid=CjwKCAiA17P9BRB2EiwAMvwNyOXZiWETw2dei50umg5USTDsWYvQfV1xGtai-kN_RL8_i4B8DQ0tvRoCMWcQAvD_BwE

However, I did reach out to Marc D’Antonio who is MUFON’s photo expert. He told me, “There’s definitely something illuminated by the sun which is also in the shot up behind some clouds… It appears to me that it could very well be a jet contrail that’s extremely foreshortened being illuminated by the sun from this particular angle... My thoughts anyway. Either way it doesn’t appear to be too mysterious. It is after all illuminated by the sun and stays in the same relative position.”  

Triangle sightings are an on-going phenomenon. According to Peter Davenport, there have been over 200 reports of triangles in the first half of 2020. Here are just a few of the sightings reported to the National UFO Reporting Center.

Peter Davenport

At 9:00 pm on Thursday October 1st, [in Cedar Rapids] I was taking out my garbage when I saw an aircraft slowly coming towards my home, west to east, going towards Mt. Vernon [Iowa]. I thought it was a helicopter but then as it came to be almost above my head, I realized it was not. It was flat metal gray, almost black, it wouldn’t be easy to see had it not had lights on it. It was triangular in shape but the points were flat, not pointed. It spanned maybe 10 feet across and was 10 feet in length. It had two bright lights on the front, like headlights, and a light on each wing, I guess, one was red and one was green. Both blink opposite of the other. It was traveling at I would say approximately 20-30 mph. It wasn’t fast. I yelled for my friend Cody to come outside when it was directly over me. It was very low, only about 6 feet above the tree outside my balcony. And the sound it made was that if a very far away jet. So oddly super quiet but very distinct. I saw no propellers, nothing moved! or it produced no wind at all and it stayed traveling at the same speed until it was out of site. A car driving by stopped to watch it go by as well, so technically 3 witnesses but Cody came and saw it just as it was passing over head. Not sure what it was. But it was not a helicopter or a plane, at least not any that I know exist. If it was a drone, it was a huge effing drone. We had completely cloud cover the sky not even 10 minutes after this happened.

Also, on October 1, from Johnson City, Tennessee, came this. I was taking my husband to work and as I’m getting closer to his job I happen to look to my left and notice this large object in the sky that looks triangular. I mean it could have been another shape but from the distance it looked like a triangle. It was roughly around 5:53 am this morning and the three big white circles of the lights were in a triangle position it was at a vertical position which I thought strange, it was very, very bright so I figured maybe a plane but then it was just sitting there and I thought that’s odd and kept looking as I’m trying to drive. It reminded me of a Christmas tree position just hanging out. I saw a little red on it at one point on the right side of the craft would be our left side... but the farther I got, the more distant it was but it never moved ... I told him we needed to stop and video tape or take a photo but we were running behind and I tried to catch it on my way back it was gone by then. The location of the object looked perhaps in a wooded area and some back roads. Just from where I saw it and the location of where I was. I wanted to report it because I’ve seen so many aircraft in my time and I’m in a military family ... this was just weird.

On October 2, three triangles were seen over Berea, KY. The witness said, “Driving home and saw three spaced apart black triangular aircrafts with white and red lights hovering still over the interstate I-75. Two of them were hovering above the strip of land which separates the north and southbound lanes and one was hovering on the outskirts of the northbound lane. There was no noise.”

On October 5, in Pensacola, a tree cutting crew said that at dusk saw the triangle that they first thought was a helicopter but when it flew overhead, they could see the black triangle shape. It had a blinking white light at the front and two red lights in the rear. He got a very good look at it before it disappeared.

I should note here that these are merely reports and haven’t been investigated thoroughly yet. And, I mentioned, these are but a few of those reports. On October 1, there were several sightings of triangles reported to NUFORC. It does seem as if they are becoming more prominent.