X-Zone Broadcast Network - Kenneth Dudley

This week I talked with Kenneth Dudley, who has said of himself, “I know more than anyone else in the UFO world about what has happened and this is a national security issue…” He also has suggested that his field of expertise is military intelligence and UFOs.” I thought this might make for an interesting show. You can listen to the program here:

https://www.spreaker.com/episode/21485151

We did talk about his becoming interested in UFOs after he was involved in a car

Kenneth Dudley

accident but no one seemed able locate the woman who caused it. He found her in Colorado, but in his discussion with her, remembered a UFO sighting he’d had in October 1973, along I-70 near Green river, Utah. I will note here, apropos of nothing at all, I have driven through Utah on I-70 a number of times, and it is a long, lonesome road. There used to be a sign as you entered the western end that the next service stations were 138 miles away. That’s been changed in the world today with the creation of several service station plazas, but in 1973, that sign just underscores how deserted that stretch of highway used to be.

His sighting wasn’t all that spectacular, just a glowing disk close to the ground that took off in a burst of speed. It wasn’t in sight for very long, and I mentioned that it was quite mundane, in terms of detail. Of course, if you were the witness, your perspective would be somewhat different. Since Dudley said he nearly hit the UFO, he thought of it as a little more exciting.

For corroboration, he mentioned that radars at Cheyenne Mountain had tracked the UFO at about the time of his sighting. Without a little more information, I wasn’t all that sure that the connection could be made or that this could be considered corroboration.

One of the views along I-70 in Utah.

When he talked about the trouble in the UFO community and the seeming lack of interest in his sighting, I suggested it might be his claim about knowing more than anyone else in the UFO world. He did backtrack on that.

He mentioned five people who had died when they came in contact with UFOs but couldn’t provide any names. I confess that I didn’t help. I thought of Mantell (who was chasing a UFO but I think that has been identified in the world today) and of Cash-Landrum, both of whom claimed health issues after they witnessed a close approach of a diamond-shaped UFO. The event and health problems might have contributed to their deaths years later. That would have led to another discussion which I feared would take up too much of our limited time. I had other things that I wanted to address.

We also talked about the national security implications, with Dudley citing the shutdown of missile launch systems. While an outsider having the ability to disable missiles and preventing their launch certainly has national security implications, the connection to UFOs is somewhat tenuous. The Air Force, of course, denied that a UFO had been involved, but they didn’t offer much in the way of solution either.

Next week, I’m going to take some time to look at some of the issues that are floating around the UFO world. At the moment, I am thinking about addressing what is known as “cancel culture,” meaning you must embrace all aspects of the UFO world or you’re considered a debunker, a look at Stan Friedman’s dark side, and the Deep State influence in UFO investigation. If you have questions, or points you might wish to make, append them at the end of this column and I’ll try to get to them.

Time Traveling Aliens and Dr. Michael Masters

Dr. Michael Masters*, author of Identified Flying Objects, has proposed that the occupants of those UFOs are time travelers. I mention this for a couple of reasons. First, it is my favorite theory which is not to say that it is the most likely explanation. Time travel is a fun subject, with all the contradictions in it. Robert Charles Cornett and I wrote three science fiction books using time travel as a basis, beginning with Remember the Alamo in which a group of modern soldiers, using modern weapons, are transported back in time to the Battle of the Alamo. Think Force Multiplier here. Machine guns against muskets.

Masters suggests in his book that given the majority of the descriptions of the alien creatures are humanoid, meaning two arms, two legs, two eyes and one head,

Dr. Michael Masters and a few of his ancient pals.

there must be a connection to Earth. I extrapolate from here that he is looking at the next evolutionary stage of the human and therefore the beings are from Earth. They are from our far future, using time travel so that they can study us as we have been studying the ancient people. They just have a better tool than we do because they can see us in action rather than guessing how we lived based on the material left behind

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The second point is to announce that Dr. Masters will be appearing on my radio show A Different Perspective on the X-Zone Broadcast Network on April 10. For those who are unable to catch the program at that time, it will be available on line later in the day. As soon as the link is available, I’ll get it posted.

Although we’ve touched on the time travel aspect of the UFO phenomenon in the past, this will be the first time that it will be the focus of the discussion. Should be a lot of fun for everyone.

*For the record here and so that I don’t surprise anyone, I keep wanting to call him Tom McMasters. I don’t know why**, but I do know he is Dr. Michael Masters. Just thought I would mention it.

Though looking at his email address which is MMaster…, that might be the reason for the McMasters, but no reason for the Tom.

Don Schmitt, Adam Dew and the Roswell Slides

Adam Dew

In the last several weeks, I have been asked if Don Schmitt had ever said anything about the interview I had conducted with Adam Dew in November 2017 on the X-Zone Broadcast Network. Since I interviewed Don a couple of times, I thought that those interested could figure out on their own what his reaction might be. Listen to what Don said and what Adam said, compare the two and decide who is telling the truth and who is not. For those interested, you can listen to the interviews, starting with Dew, here:

https://www.spreaker.com/episode/13469927

And Don Schmitt here:

https://youtu.be/t1GAupYNIIw

and here:

https://youtu.be/fo-gK4nwZ_k 

And you can read my somewhat short analyses of the shows, again starting with Dew, here:

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2017/11/x-zone-broadcast-network-adam-dew-and.html

Don Schmitt. Photo copyright
by Kevin Randle

And Don Schmitt here:

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2017/08/xzone-broadcast-network-don-schmitt.html

And here:

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2016/09/x-zone-broadcast-network-don-schmitt.html

This, I think, will provide the information necessary to form an opinion about the veracity of the various tales. I did ask Don if he had listened to Adam’s interview. He emailed me that:

These were what we relied on as provided by [Joe] Beason for attempted analysis by Rudiak and others. We were never allowed possession of either slide or any slides for that matter for dating, examination, or independent testing. We relied strictly on scans provided by Beason [the man who had the slides originally] throughout our association. The second slide was only a tight shot of the body which did not enable us to see what was clearly a museum setting in the background. When I confronted [Jaime] Maussan in his office in Mexico City the day after the presentation, I demanded to see the image of the entire second slide. Placard withstanding, it was indeed a museum. Now, reexamine the placard image as provided by Beason and tell me that what you see is not undecipherable script writing - not the block lettering which truly is in the originals. You will also recall that after Mexico City I confronted Dew and demanded that they publicly release the slides to end any final dispute. He declined stating "What good would that do? They have been tested enough." I persisted and believe my wait will be infinite.

Placard scans supplied to Don Schmitt.

He did include a copy of the scan that had been supplied to both Tom Carey and him, which was supplied to David Rudiak to see if David might be able to draw out something of significance. They don’t supply much in the way of information and are only of the placard and not of the whole display.

As I have said, I’ll let both men, Don and Adam, speak for themselves on this. I believe that each of us can infer from their statements where the truth lies. I will say, however, that it seems to me, when we find ourselves in these sorts of situations, the truth is usually found somewhere between the two opposing camps. Though I don’t solicit comments but let those who wish to comment do so, in this case, I would be interested in anything anyone has to say about all of this. I have my own bias which, naturally, will color what I believe to be the truth, though I try to be as objective as possible.

Billy Meier and Planets Beyond Pluto

The other night, August 1, I appeared on the Rob McConnell’s X-Zone radio show and in the course of the conversation, I mentioned that it was strange that Billy Meier’s Pleiadian pals had not mentioned the large planet out in the Kuiper Belt that was being postulated by our current astronomical community. I figured that if they were flying around the Solar System they would have a good idea of what was out there, outside the range of our capabilities. But in the world of the UFO, as I often say, nothing is ever quite as simple as that.

Wendelle Stevens, who was among the first Americans to get mixed up with Meier, published a book, A Preliminary Investigation Report: The Report of Ongoing Contact, which, of course, is about Billy Meier. The copyright date is a little strange because it lists 1982, 1981, 1980, 1979 and 1978. It means that the book was updated periodically and the only way to know what was in the 1978 version is to review that copy. I mention this simply because Meier has made so many predictions over time that we need some way to verify the earliest date of a specific prediction so that we can gauge the accuracy of that prediction. However, in this particular case, the multiplicity (I just love that word) of copyright dates does not hinder my observations. However, it seems that the information had been given to Stevens on March 9, 1979, but that the contact with Meier had been on October 19, 1978. Given that, we can deduce that the copyright date after 1978 applies.

Pluto, with the large, heart shaped
feature that no one predicted. NASA
photo.

On page 89 of the book (though I’m not sure what edition and copyright date apply here) Stevens wrote about the number of moons around Jupiter as given to Meier. For this discussion, that is irrelevant. In the same paragraph, he wrote, “They also observed that there are still 2 more planets in our solar system still to be discovered, both beyond Pluto.”

On page 521, Stevens wrote, “Then he [Meier] stated that there are also two more planets orbiting our sun – both beyond Pluto, and both smaller than Pluto… He said that it was not the time for us to discover these bodies technically yet, but that they would be identified and studied in the future.”

Okay, we have some specific predictions here, with a date handed to us by Stevens, so we can see if Meier made some startling predictions about the discovery of transneptune objects (TNO). What does this say about Meier’s predictions? How could he know these things back in 1979 (using the later of the 1970s copyright dates)?

Well, first, the speculation about a planet, or planets, beyond Neptune has been going since the middle of the 19^th century. Calculations concerning the orbit of Neptune suggested to some that there was another object out there influencing the orbit of Neptune with its gravity. This sparked a search for it which lead to the discovery of Pluto in 1930.

What we learn is that in 1909, Thomas Jefferson Jackson, who was a respected astronomer who also seemed to annoy his colleagues, said that there was certainly one object beyond Neptune, most likely two and possibly three. That would, of course, be Pluto, and the two that Meier talked about. Jackson, then, with his prediction, beat Meier by about 70 years.

In 1911, Venkatesh P. Ketakar, an Indian astronomer, suggested that there were two transneptune objects. He named them Brahma and Vishnu. Although his prediction about one of those planets which seems to have been Pluto was close to right, he didn’t explain how he had made his calculations. For our purpose, it is only import that we know that he was talking about this some 68 years before Meier entered the arena.

In 1972, Joseph Brady at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory suggested a Jupiter sized planet out beyond Neptune, and given his prediction that it was 59 AU (astronomical unit that is about 93 million miles long), that puts it out beyond Pluto as well.

What we see in these few examples, is that others, long before Meier told Stevens about what he had been told by the Pleiadians, talked of planets beyond Pluto, and even gave the number as two. So, there isn’t anything new and different in the information supplied to Stevens by Meier or to Meier by the Pleiadians.

But, for fun, let’s look at the accuracy of the prediction, and we’ll ignore the distinction between planets and dwarf planets because it does not come into play here. Meier said that there were two planets beyond Pluto. This, of course, is inaccurate. Beyond Pluto, at the latest count are nine (though it is sometimes

Makemake with its
satellite, far out in the
Kuiper Belt.

difficult to be sure how many have been accepted as dwarf planets and how many are still undergoing research). Of those, seven have names but the IAU recognizes only three beyond Pluto as dwarf planets. Given this, it seems that Meier’s prediction was in error because no matter how you slice it, there are, at least three.

I’ll note that Stevens wrote, according to Meier, that both these objects were smaller than Pluto. One of them Makemake, is about the size of Pluto and since the difference is only about 60 kilometers, with a margin of error that means Pluto could be smaller than Makemake. All the others are smaller than Pluto.

Here’s where we can really run off the rails, with Pluto reduced to a dwarf planet, there are now eight known planets in the Solar System. Astronomers are now suggesting that there are again nine planets and possibly ten, based on their calculations. One of those planets is about the size of Earth and the other ten times as large. If this is true and can be proven by astronomers, it completely wipes out the Meier prediction. They are both larger than Pluto, and are out in the Kuiper Belt far beyond Pluto with those other, dwarf planets.

No matter how you look at it, Meier’s prediction about the far reaches of the Solar System and the planets beyond Pluto have been shown to be false. You can reduce the argument to semantics, but that won’t alter the facts. Meier said there were two planets beyond Pluto, but that speculation had been in play for 70 years before his prediction. We now have three that are recognized and another six that have been found. He said they were smaller than Pluto and you can argue that he was correct, but only by a few kilometers and we can do that only by ignoring the possibility of those two large planets being talked about in the world today. There was nothing that he claimed that was accurate or particularly insightful about this, given the state of astronomy in the late 1970s… in other words, he could have picked up on the discussions about the transneptune objects from terrestrial scientists and from some very old astronomy papers. This information did not require contact with alien beings, only a knowledge of the search for planets in the Solar System in the early 20^th century. His predictions about this fail.

Chasing Footnotes -The Socorro Case

As anyone who visits here regularly, you know that I chase footnotes. I sometimes try to find specific instances to make the case, but when I search without a known destination, it seems to be an impossible task. Instead, I find the bad footnotes by accident. This is just something that cannot be forced.

Lonnie Zamora

As you all also know, I have been looking into the symbol that Lonnie Zamora reported seeing on the side of the landed UFO. That research has bled into other areas, including the idea that other members of the Socorro Police Department or the New Mexico State Police saw the same object as Zamora. In the Unidentified Flying Objects Briefing Document: The Best Available Evidence compiled by Don Berliner, Marie Galbraith and Antonio Huneeus and “presented” by CUFOS, FUFOR and MUFON, in December, 1995, I read the short segment on the Socorro case. They wrote, “At this time, Zamora was joined by a police sergeant [Chavez] who watched the craft fly away into the distance.”

This is an argument, that Chavez saw the object, that has been made here by David Rudiak and one that Ray Stanford as well as Ben Moss and Tony Angiola shared during the interviews on my X-Zone Broadcast Network radio show. The links can be found in the postings for those programs. It is not this argument, that Chavez saw the object, which I’m concerned with here, but with the footnote about where this information was found or where it could be verified. According to Berliner, Galbraith and Hunees, this was a “Written statement by Lonnie Zamora to Project Blue Book, 1964; reprinted in Steiger, Brad, ed. Project Blue Book, ibid.”

In the last weeks I have been through the Blue Book files several times. I have discussed this idea of other police witnesses, both privately with a number of people and publicly on this blog. I have a copy of Steiger’s book and a complete copy of the Blue Book file on the case. Nowhere in the statement by Zamora does it suggest that the police sergeant arrived in time to see the UFO as it disappeared in the distance. In fact, Zamora in that statement said:

As I was calling Nep [a police radio operator], I could still see the object. The object seemed to lift up slowly, and to “get small” in the distance very fast. It seemed to just clear Box Canyon or Six Mile Canyon mountain. It disappeared as it went over the mountains. It had no flame whatsoever as it was traveling over the ground and made no smoke or noise…

Zamora said that he then went down to where the craft had landed and saw that one of the bushes was still smoking. He then said:

Gave directions to Nep Lopez at radio and to Sgt. M.S. Chavez to get there. Went down to where the object was (had been), and I noted the bush was burning in several places. At that time, I heard Sgt. Chavez calling me on radio for my location, and I returned to my car, told him he was looking at me. Then Sgt. Chavez came up and asked me what the trouble was, because I was sweating and he told me I was white, very pale. I asked the Sergeant to see what I saw, and that was the burning bush. Then Sgt. Chavez and I went to the spot, and Sgt. Chavez pointed out the tracks.

It is clear from Zamora’s statement in the Blue Book files and in Steiger’s book, that Chavez didn’t arrive until after the UFO had disappeared in the distance. Now we really don’t have to go through the arguments again about how Chavez did arrive in time to see it in the sky. What I’m saying here is that the sources quoted for the information do not support that idea. We can argue about other sources, but in this very limited case, those additional sources are irrelevant because they weren’t cited. The sources quoted do not support the statement, and that is all that is relevant here.