Are Some Tales Just too Wild to Believe: Corey Goode and Andrew Basiago

When I interviewed Jan Harzan recently, I expressed my concern about the direction of MUFON and some of those invited to make presentations at the Symposium. I thought that some of the speakers were less than credible, thinking specifically about one man who seemed to claim to some sort of time travel before I realized there were two. Harzan’s response was that he wanted to give the membership a chance to hear the tales and decide for themselves if they believed them or not. The thinking here, I believe, was present an interesting program that provided data on the alleged secret space program, even if the evidence of such a thing didn’t exist, other than some testimony from some rather dubious sources. Besides, it would draw in more paying attendees but really has little to do with UFO research.

One of those speaking is Corey Goode, whose bio seemed to be more like that of Ender Wiggin. For those of you who don’t read science fiction, Ender Wiggin was a six-year-old boy who was recruited into the International [Space] Fleet in the fight against the Buggers, an alien race that had invaded the Solar System, twice. The fight would be taken to them, on other planets in other star systems. Ender was a genus at strategy and tactics and something of an empath, though that it never actually spelled out in the book. Instead, at the moment he comes to love his enemy, that is the moment that he destroys them… though by the end of the book, he is the one who saves that alien race from extermination. I mention this because of some of the parallels that I see among the speakers at the Symposium.

According to the bio of Goode, found at the MUFON website, under Symposium and Speakers, we learn:

Identified as an intuitive empath (IE), Corey Goode was recruited into Military Special Access Programs (SAP) at the age of 6. This program groomed Corey to be drafted into a Secret Space Program called “Solar Warden” in 1986. For the next 20 years Corey was assigned to a research vessel as well as being pulled into multiple other related assignments. This was designated as a “20 & Back” assignment which involved age regression (via Pharmaceutical means) as well as time regressed to the point of beginning service.

In 2015 Corey Goode was featured on a ground breaking new series on Gaia TV called “Cosmic Disclosure”. Corey has been sharing his experiences in these SAP’s in what has now become 7 seasons of Cosmic Disclosure.

I’m sorry but I don’t believe any of this except maybe that his name is Corey Goode. He has no evidence, or maybe I should say no reputable evidence, that any of this is true. I can’t file FOIA, I can’t see the headquarters or the office. Nor do I believe that the Navy had built “space carriers,” which if true would have required a crew of hundreds. Why are there no others talking about this? Obviously there has been no repercussions for Goode violating his oath. He hasn’t been prosecuted for it which show have inspired other “whistleblowers,” though none have come forward.

Andrew Basiago : Time traveler.

Even worse, if possible, is the tale told by Andrew Basiago, an attorney who claims that he, too, as a child was involved in some strange things including time travel, “jumping” to Mars through some sort of apparatus that might have been controlled by the CIA. According to him:

His talk will include the origins of Project Mars of the 1980s in Project Pegasus of the1970s; the program's goals; the training seminar; the identity of the young Americans who were the speaker's fellow trainees; NASA's involvement in selecting the jumpers; the desired traits of those to go off-planet; the origin, structure, function, and location of the jump rooms; what the CIA's threat assessment about the Martian civilization revealed about the true history of US probes to Mars; the dangers faced by jumpers; the speaker's acclimation jumps, exploratory jumps, and ultimate mission; the characteristics of three Martian humanoids; the identity and testimony of seven jump room whistle blowers; and the involvement of Buzz Aldrin, Barack Obama; Richard Nixon, Howard Hughes, Stansfield Turner and Ross Perot. Attention will be given to President Obama's disinformation ploys concealing his participation in the program; whether the jumps were made to Mars or a “synthetic quantum evironment” (sic) in time-space; and the politics in exopolitics that have prevented the Mars jump room story from being given the standing in Ufology that it deserves and that the speaker's work has earned.

And no, I don’t believe this tale either. There is no credible evidence for this. But like Goode, he attracts a crowd with his preposterous tales of Martian humanoids and predators that are so fierce that his superiors gave him a cyanide capsule to commit suicide if trapped rather than a large caliber firearm to protect himself.

But Harzan said that he wanted to give the MUFON membership the opportunity to listen and decide what they wanted to believe. Fair enough… then why is the same courtesy not extended to Michael Horn, who believes that Billy Meier has been in contact with space aliens? Shouldn’t he be allowed to present his tale to the membership so that they can decide for themselves?

The real point, I suppose, is that if we expect to earn the respect of various other groups (journalists and scientists just to name two), we have to be careful in what we accept as reality. We can’t believe something because we want to believe it, especially when it is so outrageous. The driving force should not be a potential to make money off the claim. While it might be nice to give a platform for some of those with extreme views, we ought to be sure that their views are based in our shared reality and not in science fiction. Unfortunately, that is where we now find ourselves because it really is all about the money.

The Lost Adams - Part One

(Blogger’s Note: As those of you who visit here regularly know, I’m also a fan of tales of lost gold mines and buried treasure and in fact, in 1995 wrote a book cleverly named Lost Gold and Buried Treasure. The first story in the book dealt with the Lost Adams and in the last couple of days, while working on my book about the Socorro UFO landing, I had the opportunity to learn a little more about the Lost Adams. Here, then, is the tale as told in that book, updated with the information that I learned while communicating with Paul Harden, he of Socorro and combined with other information gathered over the years. This is Part One.)

For a time, in the movies, it was known as Mackenna’s Gold, and for a short time in the eighteenth century some called it the Lost Baxter, but most know it under its original and most common name, the Lost Adams. For more than a hundred and fifty years people have searched for what would be the richest placer gold deposit ever found if the original story is true. And, like all good stories, it begins with a mystery man who might have been an Apache or maybe a Mexican, or maybe a little of both, who leads the men to the canyon of gold and then ends, for the most part, with a massacre of those men. All of this because of broken promises and violations of agreements.

His name might have been John, or Edward, but most just knew him as Adams. He was the lone survivor, or maybe it was he and a man named Jack Davidson, who had survived the Apaches. Or maybe it was those two men and another known as John Brewer who had been able to avoid the massacre. And then, of course, there was the German, John Snively, though in some accounts he is identified as Emil Schaeffer, who grabbed some gold, kept to himself and either left before the Apaches arrived, or managed to hide in the small cave that he had claimed for his shelter until the danger passed.

“In the autumn of 1864,” Adams, would tell any who would listen, including W. H. Byerts, who reported it in the February 19, 1916, article in the El Paso Herald, “while freight running through the southwestern part of Arizona, I was camping a few miles from the Pima Indian villages, and while at breakfast, I saw the Indians rounding up my horses.”

He always started the story the same way. A freight trip to Tucson and a rude awakening one morning as the Apaches ran off his horses. Adams said that he had the habit of keeping one horse saddled, so he gave chase, recaptured the animals but when he returned to camp he found his wagons looted and burned. With only the horses he had saved, headed for the nearby Pima Indian reservation where he might be able to replace most of what he had lost, or at least enough to get back to Los Angeles.

Some of the rough area in western New
Mexico.

When he arrived, around noon, he found a dozen or more prospectors excited by what they thought was a major gold strike nearby. According to Byerts, again directly quoting Adams, “While I was there, quite a mining excitement broke out. Men had been coming in with ores and with the use of mineral glasses, gold could be seen.”

According to Adams, “A half-breed Indian, a native of the village became very much amused over the excitement of the prospectors about such small quantities of gold ore.”

The Indian, identified by some as Gotch Ear, might have told the group that he was really Mexican and spoke fluent Spanish, but that the Apaches had abducted him as a boy, raised him and taught him the traditions of their culture. While he lived with the Apaches, they had taken him to a canyon filled with gold. He allegedly told them, “You can load a pack horse in a day.” He said that there were “nuggets as big as hen’s eggs.”

At first no one believed him, but other villagers claimed he was reliable and if he said he could do something, he could do it. The prospectors then questioned Gotch Ear carefully and were finally convinced that he was telling them the truth. He could describe, in detail, the area around the canyon, the trails leading to it, and what could be found once they managed to get there. To further prove his honesty, he told the prospectors that he wanted no gold, only a horse or two and a rifle and a few other things, to be given to him when he led them into the canyon. If he had lied to them, then they could kill him.

Adams told Byerts, “This caused wild excitement among the miners, yet with the good name the man bore, most of them doubted that any such gold…deposits ever could exist and cast it off as a dream or a vision.”

But there were those who couldn’t let the story go and continued to investigate. Finally satisfied with the tale was true, another meeting was held. Gotch Ear was called in, questioned yet again, and when his answers didn’t vary and that he was willing to risk his life to prove his statements, they were convinced. He said he would sign a document that he could be shot if he could not prove that the gold was there. His price, though was a little steeper now. He wanted a hundred dollars, a rifle, a pistol, a tent, two pack horses and a saddle horse.

Adams, it seemed, hadn’t been there for most of this.  He told Byerts, “I appeared in the Pima Village as the organization of this company was being perfected.” Because he knew some of the old-time miners and because he had nothing else to do, Adams joined the party. They left from what is now Casa Grande on August 20, 1864.

The lava bed south of Grants, NM, which was once thought
to hide the Lost Adams. Photo copyright by
Kevin Randle.

Adams later supplied a set of general directions for those that would follow in his footsteps. From the Pima village, the prospecting party headed to the northeast until they reached the Continental Divide. They worked their way down to an open plain and continued for another fifteen miles or so. Then without having seen any prominent landmarks, not even a trail, they turned due north. In the distance were some mountains and keeping them in sight, they traveled another six or seven miles.

Stopping suddenly, Gotch Ear pointed to a faint wagon trail and told them, “Mark this spot well. You will have to come back to this point. Turn east to find Fort Wingate. Remember this spot well.”

They continued on for several miles, still moving in a northerly direction, and then dropped into a deep canyon. They followed it for several miles, winding back and forth until the trail widened out onto a small plateau or mesa about five hundred feet above the surrounding territory. The plateau had been cultivated by one of the local tribes and the prospectors found the remains of corn, beans, onions and pumpkins. This would be the pumpkin patch that Adams often mentioned and that became an important part of the legend.

On the other side of the plateau they entered an arroyo, followed the dry creek bed, and then a zigzag path through the cliffs. They climbed to about a thousand feet and then stopped again.

Gotch Ear pointed and said, “In the distance are two rounded mountains. The gold is in a canyon at the foot of those peaks. We’ll be there tomorrow.”

Just ahead of them was a beautiful, tree-lined, grass-covered valley with a stream bubbling through the center. At the far end was a waterfall. The prospectors led their horses to the water and as the animals began to drink, one of the miners noticed gold nuggets in the stream. Hundreds of them were mixed in with the sand along the bank. Gold seemed to be everywhere and they still hadn’t reached the motherlode, at least according to Gotch Ear.

For a few minutes, they were grabbing as much gold as they could find, but then they were laughing, slapping each other on the back, and screaming their excitement. They had found as much gold as anyone of them could ever use, ever spend and it was just laying around all over the ground, waiting for them to pick it up.

When they finally settled down, they told Gotch Ear that he had fulfilled his promise though he told them that this was not the canyon he had described for them. It was farther away, though not that far but the prospectors were satisfied and they were going to stay where they were. There were trees and water and the gold that was easy to get. They didn’t have to go any farther. Gotch Ear was given his horses, his rifle and the other items and he disappeared… from both the canyon and the story.

That night, they began planning for their assault on the gold. They decided that they would all share in it equally, but not all would be working the placer deposit. While one group worked to build a cabin, another would do the mining and a third would go for supplies, but the largest group would be working the mine.

All seemed to agree except for a German, John Snively. He was afraid of the Apaches and asked to be left out of their agreement. He would gather what he could, keep that for himself and then leave when he thought he had enough. He just didn’t want to be killed by the Apaches. Besides, no one cared. There was more than enough for everyone.

The next day, the provisioning party of six and under the leadership of John Brewer, left taking a few nuggets to pay for the supplies. In some accounts, Snively went with them while others suggested that he stayed in the canyon but camped in a small cave away from the rest of the prospectors. There is some evidence that he left the canyon with about $13,000 in gold nuggets.

Just as Snively had feared, the Apaches did find the miners, but there was no attack. Instead they warned the miners not to venture beyond the waterfall at the far end of the canyon. If they remained where they were, they could take away as much gold as they could find and carry out with them.

But, the warning was ignored. A couple of the men remembered what Gotch Ear had told them about where the major gold strike was and wondered just what was above the falls. Now their curiosity was aroused and then didn’t think it would hurt to take a look. They returned with a tale of even more gold in bigger nuggets, these the size of turkey eggs. If their fellows thought that the nuggets they were picking up were large, they should see what was scattered above the falls. The nuggets there were two, three times as large as those they had been collecting.

Things seemed to settle down into a routine. They had more supplies coming, they were picking up thousands of dollars in gold each day, and a cabin was being built for their shelter. They had nothing to worry about… except they had forgotten the warning given them by the Apaches. Had they listened, the tale might have ended differently. As it was, it became another clash between cultures.

Next: The Apaches return.

Here is a map of the general area of the Lost Adams based on the research I had done decades earlier. It is based on what Adams told Byerts and reported in the El

Paso Herald. The penciled area is closest to the location of the Lost Adams, at least as I thought about it in the 1970s.

Leaving old Fort Wingate, go to the point of the Malpai Mountains, tens miles westerly from the point, thence a sharp course northerly, which would bring you to a deep arroyo. This is to be ascended about five miles, thence ascend the right bank of the canyon and come upon a table land, or mesa, level and beautiful, but not large and adjoined against the foothills. Here the Indians were raising pumpkins, corn, onions, etc.: here Adams says he found shallow water, cottonwood trees and willows. Here they camped overnight. In the morning, the guide led into a shallow arroyo on the west side of this table land and followed up the creek wash into rocky formation. This canyon runs zigzag like the letter Z, and in the sharp apex of one of the angles the guide passed through a narrow box canyon which soon opened up into a larger canyon. This they followed until about 4 o’clock in the afternoon. The last of this canyon was a rather difficult climb, yet a good trail and at the head of this canyon the Adams guide again called his party around him, showing them two small round mountains about 20 miles distant, close to which this ledge passed and in this ledge, is where the gold is the richest…

X-Zone Broadcast Network - Jan Harzan and MUFON's Inner Circle

Jan Harzan

This week, given the controversy that had erupted in May, I invited Jan Harzan back to talk about that, among other things. I covered the part of the program that dealt with the MUFON Inner Circle in a much longer post that can be seen here:

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2017/06/mufon-racism-and-dodging-questions.html

The last part of the program dealt with some of the speakers who had been invited to the MUFON Symposium. While it seemed that Harzan admitted that some of the tales being told were not as credible as others, he also suggested that MUFON had an obligation to provide its membership with diverse opinions and let them decide for themselves what they wanted to believe. You can listen to Jan Harzan here:

https://www.spreaker.com/episode/12180631

(And if you have trouble with the link, try YouTube and A Different Perspective, Kevin Randle, Jan Harzan. That should get you to the proper interview.)

I had hoped that MUFON might use discretion in selecting the speakers, especially given some of the wild tales being told, but it seems that most viewpoints are welcome, no matter how far out… except for those that are not welcome… While I am not a fan of Michael Horn and his drumbeating for the Billie Meier contact case, apparently MUFON agrees with that assessment. They have not provided Horn with a platform which makes me wonder how they decide what is credible enough for their Symposium.

Next week: Mark O’Connell

Topic: His biography of Dr. J. Allen Hynek, The Close Encounters Man.

X-Zone Broadcast Network - Dr. Irena Scott

Dr. Irena Scott

This week I spoke with Dr. Irena McCammon Scott who had published the book, UFO’s Today: 70 Years of Lies, Misinformation and Government Coverup. I had hoped that we would be able to talk about what was new in the book and when I asked, she pointed to a tale of Cordell Hull who had talked about alien bodies stored under the Capitol building in Washington, D.C. The problem is that the tale is not new and was reported in the International UFO Reporter in the winter 2001 – 2002 issue. There doesn’t seem to be much in the way of corroboration for the story. You can listen to the interview here:

https://www.spreaker.com/episode/12180697

(And, as always, you can find it on YouTube by searching A Different Perspective with Kevin Randle. Just add Dr. Scott’s name.)

We did speak at length about the Kenneth Arnold sighting, and I wanted to know more about Maury Island where a damaged UFO had touched down, leaving some debris behind. Although we talked about the story being a hoax, Dr. Scott fell back on the position that it was a hoax, but there was a Men in Black component in it. She didn’t know that one of the witnesses, Fred Crisman, had been in contact with Ray Palmer, the science fiction editor year or two earlier and who had leaped onto the flying saucer bandwagon the first chance he got. The Men in Black were probably Crisman and his partner Harold Dahl, who seemed to be leaking everything to the newspaper and frightening poor old Ken Arnold. Arnold believed his hotel room had been bugged because of the articles in the newspaper. I don’t think we ever got through that, but I gave it a try.

We did speak briefly about the nonsensical story of Charles H. Forgus, the Texas deputy sheriff who claimed to have seen the crash site and the bodies of the alien creatures found near Roswell. I reported on this a while back and you can read the story here:

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/search?q=Forgus

Next week’s guest: Jan Harzan

Topic: MUFON and the Inner Circle

Latest MJ-12 Documents: A Final Look

For those of you who tuned into Midnight in the Desert to listen to me discuss the latest MJ-12 document release, well, I was bumped early in the evening because Heather Wade had “overbooked the show.” At least I wasn’t dragged off by security for refusing to give up my place at the microphone… which couldn’t have happened since I was at home and she controlled the telephone system anyway.

But I did listen to the beginning of the program because like so many others, I wondered what Stan Friedman would say about the authenticity. Like many of us, he was interested in the source of the documents. They had seemed to excite him in earlier statements, but he now was somewhat more neutral though a careful reading of them should have given away the false nature of them... The mere mention that the Interplanetary Phenomenon Unit (IPU) was involved should have been a huge red flag. The IPU has been identified and it has nothing to do with aliens or UFOs or anything of the nature. For more about the IPU see:

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/search?q=IPU

I found one point hilarious and which nearly everyone has failed to mention. The first page says, “READ-AND-DESTROY. I have to wonder how the document survived with that instruction on the first page, which also argues against authenticity. I will note here that a top secret document’s destruction must be documented saying that it has been properly destroyed. Whoever “stole” this one would have had to violate that rule because he would have had to sign the destruction form.

Heather wouldn’t name names, and in one respect I understand that but that also tends to undermine the validity of the documents. She did say that the person who “stole” them originally had died so that he or she can’t be questioned about how he or she gained possession of them.

Heather hadn’t received the originals either. They had come to her in a .pdf file, which, as I have noted in the past, does not allow for much in the way of a forensic analysis of the paper, ink or anything else that might be gained by examination of the originals. We are left with a study of the format, the font, if the documents conformed to others created at the highest-levels of the government and if the documents fit into our current understanding of the situations being discussed in them.

Instead of analysis of these latest documents on the show, we were treated to another waltz down MJ-12 memory lane from the alleged moment the original documents first arrived at Jaime Shandera’s house in 1984 to the point we have reached now. There was nothing new here, other than listening to Stan talk about all his visits to archives, and he enjoys to do so (and hey, that is fun going through all this material, looking for that single and often elusive nugget) and things he had learned about the men who were named to the original MJ-12 committee, all of which was irrelevant to understanding these new documents.

For those who haven’t looked at them yet, though they can now be accessed through a variety of websites including that for Midnight in the Desert. You can still find them here if you are still interested:

http://midnightinthedesert.com/exclusive-ultra-top-secret-assessment-situation-statement-position-ufos/

I have outlined some of the many mistakes in these documents already and find it difficult to believe that something created at this level would be so riddled with errors. I am sorely tempted to enumerate the errors in the Roswell section but will refrain from doing that. Anyone interested can take a look at Roswell in the 21^st Century (or almost any of the other Roswell books) and compare the information there with that in this document. The errors will be apparent and we have to think that anyone who was far enough inside of the loop to be writing this document would be cognizant of the facts of the case.

I’m going to move onto the Aztec case which was covered in depth here. Stan had made a big deal out of the research in Scott Ramsey’s book while he was on Midnight in the Desert and how careful and meticulous it has been. But this document is at a wide variance with what Ramsey published. This sets up a conundrum… if the document is accurate, then Ramsey is wrong but if Ramsey is right, then the document is fake and I haven’t even mentioned the possibility that both are wrong and Aztec is a hoax.

According to the document, on March 25, 1948, the craft was watched on three radars “belonging to the recovery network of the White Sands Test Range and located in classified areas of southwest New Mexico.” In 1948, it was the White Sands Proving Ground, and if the radars were in southwest New Mexico, that would have prevented tracking of the object to low altitudes in northern New Mexico because the mountainous terrain would have been in the way. In fact, once you get very far north of White Sands, their radars aren’t much good for an object below 10,000 feet. Radar is line of sight.

Again, according to the document, the crash site was secured by 10:45 p.m. that night, which meant that no civilians would have been gathered at the site on the morning of March 25 to watch the military arrive because the object had yet to crash according to these new documents. And, if the civilians were on hand to see the military to arrive, it would have had to be on the morning of March 26, but then the site was already secured and the civilians would have been prevented from getting near.

We are treated to a reference to the base at Flat Rock, Nevada, which, of course, was the scene of much of the action in The Andromeda Strain. We learn that the Blue Berets (whoever they are… no, they don’t exist) came in disguised as National Guard, but I’m not sure how you pull that off since the uniforms worn by the National Guard are the same wore by those on active duty with the Army. I suppose they removed their Blue Berets and wore regulation headgear.

Stephen Bassett

But there really doesn’t seem much reason to drag this out. The documents are faked. I spoke with Stephen Bassett yesterday afternoon, and almost the first thing he said to me was that he too thought the documents faked. We discussed some of the bloopers in text, the problems with the classification markings, and all the other errors. Bassett said that he didn’t think these were disinformation, but more likely just someone outside the government who had too much time on his hands. I’ll add someone who didn’t actually know much but who had gotten his hands of William Steinman’s book UFO Crash at Aztec.

What we need to do now is place these documents in the same file folder with the Roswell Slides, the alien autopsy and little grey men who like strawberry ice cream and Tibetan music. Footnotes in the great journal of UFO information, or maybe, even better, have them all deleted from anything to do with UFO research because they have only distracted us. They have added nothing to our knowledge.

Jim Marrs is Gravely Ill

There was sad news yesterday. In my conversation with Stephen Bassett, he mentioned that Jim Marrs was gravely ill. He is dealing with dialysis at home, which is not a pleasant experience and is suggestive of a very bad situation. We should all hope for the best outcome for him.

MJ-12 - New Documents, Old Story

(Blogger's Note: Normally I would take more time to edit this, but there is pressure to get something posted. This is my opinion based on what I have seen, read, and researched since I was alerted to the documents at 4:18 p.m. CDT on June 14. Excuse the typos...)

The field where Mack Brazel is alleged to have found the
metallic debris. Photo copyright by Kevin
Randle.

Okay, I’ve had time to review the document carefully, or rather given it a solid first reading and I have some points to make. I will note here that in my talks with Stephen Bassett, he suggested that all of us, meaning Stan Friedman, Richard Dolan, him and me, create a list of what our first impressions are, and the things that we spotted right off the top. I thought that idea had some merit. We’re not looking to authenticate or debunk, only at the things that disturbed us in some fashion.

I did ask Heather Wade about the source, or sources, and she didn’t give me names, only that they were ex-military and had possessed the documents for a very long time. She didn’t know which government agency had originated them,

Richard Dolan. Copyright by
Kevin Randle

and there seemed no way to verify them through government sources. We also seem to suffer from the same problems that we’ve always had and that is that we’re working from copies and not originals. This makes the whole process problematic… and I think we can point to many cases in which copies of documents have turned out to be forgeries (think CBS and George W. Bush’s military records and any number of MJ-12 documents).

The classification markings on the documents do not seem to be consistent with authenticity, that is, the classification is not marked at both the top and the bottom of the document.

The dating format, 07 July, 1947, is not one that was in use in 1947, but I suppose you could argue that this format is consistent with the other MJ-12 documents even if it is more consistent with a dating format used by Bill Moore.

The use of “Ultra Top Secret” also raises questions. Ultra was the British code name for their operation to intercept and read high-level, highly-classified Nazi message traffic. This code name seems inappropriate for use by the US government or military. In keeping with that, there are several mentions that these documents are classified “Above Top Secret,” but that is really a misnomer… Top Secret is the highest classification, but the number of people allowed to review certain documents can be further restricted by adding a code word. Only those who are code word cleared would have access to the document and by adding a second code word you restrict the numbers even further. So, if there are two code words, you have a document that can be said to be two points above top secret, though that is not actually a fact. While we can argue the semantics of this, I don’t believe someone on the inside would talk of a document being classified two points above top secret, but rather suggesting it was double code word protected.

Jesse Marcel, Sr.

The description of the Roswell case, and the chronology is not accurate based on all the documented evidence available. As but a single example, the document tells us that Mack Brazel alerted the authorities at Roswell Army Air Forces base (which is not the correct name of the facility) at “05:18” (which should have been written as 0518 hrs) though it is clear that it was the sheriff who alerted the Army and Major Marcel himself said that he learned about it as he was eating lunch.

One of the major red flags is, “At his arrival in Roswell, General Twining relieved Colonel Blanchard of command…” There is no evidence of any such order. The relief of a commanding officer is a major event. Had Twining arrived in Roswell and assumed command by virtue of being the senior officer present, that is not the same thing.

I’m going to leave the Roswell segment here, though I see many other problems, and move onto the “Aztec UFO Crash,” which is featured more prominently (which means I’m not even going to discuss the fraudulent IPU). As I was reading this, I thought the same thing that one of the commenters made on the previous post, that is, I was reminded of William Steinman’s nonsensical book, UFO Crash at Aztec. If we compare this to Scott Ramey’s book, The Aztec Incident, the chronology here is all wrong. If we accept Ramey’s book as accurate, then the document fails (which is sort of a point in another arena).

In this document, they have changed the times which had been Mountain Standard Time, to what they call Local Time or LT. If this was strictly a military document, I would have expected the times to be converted to Greenwich Mean Time or Zulu Time. Not really a fatal flaw but one that seems to be out of place.

I’m now going to skip all the trouble with the Aztec aspect of this simply because there is so much that is simply wrong. And if this is a real briefing, where is the mention of Del Rio, Plains of San Agustin and Kingman? They mention other crashes but provide no detail, probably because these details would be difficult to find and easy to refute.

Anyway, we are now treated to the transcript between an EBE and an assortment of interviewers who are never named for a reason that I can’t fathom (unless, of course, they don’t exist). At first glance, I was drawn to the comment about why the aliens had coming to Earth for centuries and learned, “And we like trees?” I wondered if this was the same group of aliens that liked strawberry ice cream and Tibetan music.

I did mention this to Stephen Bassett who wondered if someone had gone to all the trouble to fake the documents, all the study that it had taken and the time to create it, if he or she would then sabotage the effort with some ridiculous, off the wall comment about liking trees.

My first reaction was to think that was an interesting point, but I had yet to carefully read the document. Having now done so, I see that there really is nothing new here. The information about Roswell is wrong, the name of the base is wrong, the chain of command is wrong, and even the higher headquarters at Fort Worth is wrong (it wasn’t the 5^th Air Force, but the 8^th).

Stan Friedman. Copyright by
Kevin Randle

The Aztec material is derivative of Steinman’s book, the MJ-12 information is taken from there (or maybe from any of Stan Friedman’s many writings on it), and there is nothing that is suggestive of advanced scholarship. The writing does not sound as if it came from a government source, and without names, without government agencies, without any way to check things out, this just doesn’t seem to be authentic. I withheld my opinion on this, just announcing that the documents have been released so others would have a chance to review them, but it is now clear that this does nothing to further our knowledge and just confuses an already confused issue.

MJ-12 - The Latest Documents

Stephen Bassett. Photo copyright by
Kevin Randle

For those of you keeping score at home, there has been another bunch of MJ-12 documents dumped on us. I was alerted to this by Stephen Bassett, he of UFO lobbying and Disclosure fame. He told me of the documents that were at the Midnight in the Desert website ( I will talk about this Friday, June 16 beginning at 1:30 a.m CDT on that program), documents that Heather Wade had been given, and they can be viewed here:

http://midnightinthedesert.com/exclusive-ultra-top-secret-assessment-situation-statement-position-ufos/

Now, I have not had a chance to review them in great detail but I have scanned them. There are some problematic parts, or elements, in these documents, but then even documents that come with a complete pedigree, which is to say a proper provenance, sometimes have parts that argue against authenticity. In other words, I find some things wrong, but aren’t comfortable with rejecting without a in depth reading of them.

In my conversation with Bassett, he suggested three outcomes for the research: 1. They are authentic. 2. They are a hoax put together by someone in the UFO community for any of a number of reasons. 3. They are disinformation (though at the moment I’m at a loss as to why the disinformation agents would toss these out now). Bassett thought it might have something to do with the possibility of Disclosure moving closer to reality so this was something of a pre-emptive strike.

As it stands at the moment, I will be joined on my radio program, cleverly called A Different Perspective, by Stephen Bassett in a special, two-hour edition. By then, both of us will have had a chance to review the documents, talk to some experts, and be able to describe what we think.

X-Zone Broadcast Network - Oak Island and Joy Steele

This week I reached out to Joy Steele who had offered an alternative explanation for the depression found on Oak Island that became known as the Money Pit. We started with a brief history of the area, but given the time constraints, had to work through that quickly so that some of the information was condensed. You can listen to the interview here:

https://www.spreaker.com/episode/12059035

I have visited this topic on several occasions and for those who are interested in reading those posts can begin here:

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2017/05/the-mystery-of-oak-island-solved-by-joy.html

There is other information about Joy, her investigations into the mystery of Oak Island, research into South Carolina earth kilns of the eighteenth century and how all that relates to Oak Island. You can see some of that here:

http://www.indiana.edu/~jfr/review.php?id=1906

http://thechronicleherald.ca/books/1322501-oak-island-mystery-its-history-is-the-real-treasure

http://archcon.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Tar-and-Pitch-Production-Sites-Paper.pdf

The point she was making, and one that sometimes gets lost in the controversy, is that the construction and the look of these kilns seems to match that of the original money pit right down to the flagstones found two feet down and the vault that was found during one of the attempts to find the money. Debris found inside the pit itself, and some of the artifacts found on the island also support this conclusion. The swamp area, according to Steele, would have been necessary for their work in repairing ships if her theory is correct, and the Laginas boys had found debris in the swamp that suggested there had been a ship, or ships there in the distant past.

Other aspects of the Oak Island mystery are explained by the evidence found on the ground, including what appeared to be a British camp on the island in the eighteenth century. Given the real lack of results in the search for treasure, and that some of the artifacts pulled from the money pit might have been put there to induce investors to spend additional money, what she said made a lot of sense.

Next week’s guest (tentatively): Jan Harzan

Topic: MUFON’s current trouble

X-Zone Broadcast Network - Larry Lawson

This week I tried something a little different, or more accurately, Larry Lawson of Paranormal Stakeout and I did something a little different. Lawson was on my show and we talked about UFOs and the paranormal but then, later, I was on his show and talked about the paranormal with a smattering of UFOs involved. We wanted to have two shows connected by the paranormal but exploring that topic from our distinct perspectives. You can listen to them here:

https://www.spreaker.com/episode/12008180

and

https://www.spreaker.com/episode/12008311

(And as I always say, you can find the shows on YouTube by typing in A Different Perspective. Add the guest’s name and it will take you directly to the correct show. For the Paranormal Stakeout, do the same thing and you’ll be able to listen to both parts of the shows.)

On Paranormal Stakeout, I had an opportunity to talk about a book, Conversations, I had done a number of years ago that began as an abduction and became a past live regression. I always thought it was an interesting story with a young woman and her horrific dreams that seemed quite real to her. To my surprise, as we explored this using hypnotic regression we learned the details of her past lives and I was able to confirm much of what she was saying in those pre-Internet days. Though I mentioned it on Paranormal Stakeout, the book, of course, goes into more detail.

Those of you who wish more information about Larry Lawson and Paranormal Stakeout, take a look at xzbn.net and just follow the links. You can also visit his website at www.paranormalstakeout.com.

Next week’s guest: Joy Steele

Topic: The Oak Island treasure and what her research has uncovered.

X-Zone Broadcast Network - John Greenewald

For those of you who tuned in to hear James Clarkson, he bailed on the show, but John Greenewald, of the Black Vault, was kind enough to fill in. We began by talking about a recent announcement of a government document, published in this century, that suggested an interest in UFOs. John said that while there had been some very recent interest in the document, he’d had it on his website for a number of years. There really wasn’t nothing new in the document and the entry about UFOs was quite small. You can listen to John’s interview here:

https://www.spreaker.com/episode/11946632

(I know that some have trouble with the various links I put up here so I note that if you go to YouTube, you can type in “A Different Perspective,” and the name of the guest, and you can listen to the programs there… or go to XZBN.net, and follow the prompts to the specific program.)

The interesting thing about this document was that in 2005 there had been some discussion in the media about it and the reference to UFOs and in a matter of weeks, there was a new version, an updated version, that contained no reference to UFOs. While the document wasn’t all that interesting, the government’s response after the information was published is interesting. Why did they work so fast to replace that document?

(Yeah, yeah, I know. You want to see the document and wonder why I haven’t told you the name. John tells you how to find it during the show, but here’s the link:

http://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/ufo-reporting-procedures-regulations/

So now you can see how relatively unimportant that document is though the response to it is.)

We also talk about trouble with FOIA and how that situation has changed over the years. For me, it just doesn’t seem to work as well as it once did and we are all at the mercy of the various agencies involved, but they are still required to respond. Although it might seem to be a little dull, it really is a fascinating hour.

Next week’s guest: Larry Lawson

Topic: This is sort of a special program. We begin the hour talking about UFOs and how they relate to the paranormal, and then on Larry’s show, I’m the guest and we talk explore the paranormal in greater depth. It is a two-part show, but each part does stand alone.

X-Zone Broadcast Network - Nick Redfern, The Roswell UFO Conspiracy

Nick Redfern. Photo by
Kevin Randle.

This week I talked with Nick Redfern about his new book The Roswell UFO Conspiracy: Exposing a Shocking and Sinister Secret because it would let people know about his new book, open up a discussion about an alternative explanation for the Roswell crash and it would give me a chance to promote my book, Roswell in the 21^st Century. Although I had suggested that his book was an update of his Body Snatchers in the Desert, it is actually more than just that, and it provides more information about some aspects of American history that are, for the lack of another term, rather disgusting. You can listen to our discussion here:

http://differentperspective.rnn.libsynpro.com/a-different-perspective-with-kevin-randle-ep-42-guest-nick-redfern-the-roswell-shocking-and-sinister-secret

(There have been some reports that the link is broken... if it doesn't work, try going to YouTube and type A Different Perspective Nick Redfern. That should take you to the program.)

Given the way things are in the world today, when people begin to talk about anonymous sources and don’t provide names, I begin to worry about the information. Nick pointed out that some of his sources weren’t actually anonymous but they were unnamed which, according to him is not quite the same thing. It means that while they’re not named, Nick knows who they are. I understand the necessity for these unnamed sources, some of it the responsibility of the publishers who now require that we all provide permission slips signed by the subject of interviews, often with the caveat that they had no objection to their names being used. The problem isn’t that Nick has refused to name them, the publisher wants to make sure that they agreed to being named because if they didn’t… lawsuit.

I know from my own experience that sometimes an overzealous researcher will want to verify the information that I have reported. They call the witness to ask their own questions, and I understand that. I want to be able to verify the information published by others myself… to see if it is accurate, if the witness has something else to say, or if the comments were taken out of context and the witness actually meant something different. I have found problems with some of those interviews conducted by others when I asked the questions, so I do get it.

But the flip side of that is something that I have run into and that is drunks, as a single example. As I mentioned on the program, Bill Brazel told me that drunks, making bets in bars, had called him on several occasions to ask if the information published about him was true… and not just at a descent hour but at two or three in the morning… I hesitate to subject people to that sort of harassment… or to those who don’t like the information and who want to argue the point with the witness.

One way around that is documentation and I pressed Nick on that when he began to speak about Unit 731, which had, according to him, conducted experiments on humans that can be called little more than torture. And this is where we slide off into another dark side of American history. Starting not long after the Japanese invasion of mainland China, they built a concentration camp where they performed experiments, many on Chinese men, women and children, but also on Russians and prisoners of war. These experiments included cold weather exposure to see how the body reacted to extreme temperatures, injecting live bacteria into humans to map the progress of deadly disease, amputating limps and attempting to reattach them, sometimes on the other side of the body, and the vivisection of living, conscious subjects because they didn’t want the normal decay of the diseased organs after death to color the results. They wanted to see exactly what was happening on the living organs.

Okay, that’s really enough of that. As the war wound down and it was clear that Unit 731 was about to be overrun by the Russians, the Japanese ordered everything destroyed, the buildings burned and ordered those who had participated to never say a word about it. I think the Japanese understood the concept of war crimes and they were hiding the evidence… which means that there was little in the way of documentation. Nick had mentioned a project like Paperclip that had brought the captured Nazis to the US to help build our space program. There was a similar project for the Japanese… or so he said.

Very little research on my part was able to confirm this, though I don’t know if any of the Japanese actually made it to the US. But Japanese who had participated in these “experiments” were questioned about it by American authorities and were told that anything they said would not be used in war crimes trials. General of the Army Douglas MacArthur was the senior officer to approve this because the information about the progress of some diseases, and effects of extreme cold, and other experiments did provide valuable information. The thinking I suppose, was that the data had been gathered and there was no reason to destroy it. The damage had been done, the subjects were dead and the information might be used for the benefit of others.

The point here is that Nick had been correct in what he had said about Unit 731 and its horrendous past. Many of the Japanese involved were identified and were not tried as war criminals so that the data would not be lost. That doesn’t take us to the crash of that alleged experimental craft in New Mexico in 1947, but it does get us a little closer.

Personally, I’m a little disgusted with these secret agreements that were made at the end of the war. I’m disgusted that the US government, and the US military seemed to think there was a higher purpose there and the horror could be overlooked for the value of the data collected…

Anyway, I’m finished with this rant. I bring it up merely because Nick had talked of Unit 731, had few names and it seemed even fewer documents to support all of this and how it ended up in New Mexico two years after the Japanese surrender. I bring it up so that we see that there is something to be said for Nick’s theory here and there is independent support for some of the information he used in his book and what we discussed on the program. It doesn’t mean that the object that crashed was of terrestrial manufacture and that this theory is the correct one, only that there is some information to support the theory and that more research is required.

Fake News, ABC and the Bermuda Triangle

I have to wonder about ABC News. When I heard that an airplane had vanished on a flight from Puerto Rico to Miami, I knew it wouldn’t be long before someone had to mention it was another mysterious disappearance in the Bermuda Triangle. A solution for that mystery has been available for decades and some of the planes listed as having vanished, in fact, did not. Wreckage has been found. I mentioned much of this a long time ago on this blog, and have, of course, promoted the book, The Bermuda Triangle Mystery – Solved by Lawrence Kusche a number of times. For those earlier posts see:

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2014/02/the-bermuda-triangle-and-abc-evening.html

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2007/06/editorial-comment.html

In this latest tragedy, ABC was the first that I saw that mentioned the Bermuda Triangle complete with a map showing the anchors of the triangle at Puerto Rico, Bermuda and Miami. They also mentioned the number of crashes of aircraft and sinking of ships in the area, never mentioning that the numbers are not significantly higher than those for other heavily traveled sea lanes.

From the information readily available, it seems that the aircraft crashed, though I have nothing to suggest why that happened. Wreckage identified as coming from the lost aircraft has been recovered by the Coast Guard. That tells me that the aircraft crashed, not that it disappeared.

A 440th Tactical Airlift Wing C-119.

Once again, I will note that while I was assigned to the 928^th Tactical Airlift Group, which was a unit subordinate to the 440^th Airlift Wing, I had an opportunity to talk with the pilots, crew, and command post staff about the loss of one of their aircraft in the Bermuda Triangle. They had wreckage from the aircraft that was identified with the unit numbers on it, not to mention the serial numbers of some of the parts recovered. The aircraft crashed; though it is still listed in many of the books about the Bermuda Triangle as having disappeared.

I suggest that the news media try to be a little more topical and get off their lazy butts and use Google. There they could learn that the Bermuda Triangle is a manufactured mystery that was the result of incomplete facts, flawed research and an abundance of imagination. Rather than fan the flames of mystery, try to learn the truth so that the story doesn’t become one more sensational chapter in a tale that is untrue.