Leo Sprinkle Has Died

 

Dr. R. Leo Sprinkle, known in the UFO community as a hardworking psychologist interested in UFOs, particularly alien abduction and who organized contactee conferences each year since 1980, has died at 91.

He was born on August 31, 1930, in Rocky Ford, Colorado. He earned both a bachelor’s and master’s degrees at the University of Colorado and completed his doctorate at the University of Missouri. He then spent three years at the University of North Dakota before moving onto the University of Wyoming, where he stayed until he retired.

Sprinkle’s original interest in UFOs was sparked by his sighting of an unknown object in 1949. He, along with his wife, had sighting in 1956. His first scientific paper on the subject was based on a survey of members of NICAP conducted in 1961 and 1962. His paper was published in 1969. His real area of interest ran between abductees and contactees.

In 1968, he served as the psychological consultant to the University of Colorado, Air force sponsored investigation into UFOs, known as the Condon Committee. He conducted the hypnotic regression on former Ashland, Nebraska, police officer Herbert Schirmer when missing time was discovered in his police log.

In 1980, after years of correspondence with many people who believed they had been contacted by benevolent alien beings, he, along with the Institute for UFO Contactee Studies, began hosting the Rocky Mountain Conference on UFO Investigation. Contactees from around the world met at the University of Wyoming campus to share their experiences with other like-minded people.

He had an interest in the New Age studies, believed in reincarnation, and eventually identified himself as a contactee. In 1999, he published Soul Samples: Personal Exploration in Reincarnation and UFO Experiences. He encouraged his colleagues to study the psychological makeup of the contactees. This resulted in June Parnell’s research of the Rocky Mountain conference participants, which culminated in her Ph.D. dissertation in 1986.

I will note here that I met Leo on a couple of occasions. We chatted briefly and I found him to be a nice, warm individual, with a great sense of humor, who was interested in what others had to say. We disagreed on the contactee end of the spectrum, but I think we agreed on the cattle mutilations. He seemed to think that some, if not many of those experiences, might have a more terrestrial nature and might possibly have psychological roots. He had said that it really wasn’t an area that he had explored in depth.

He believed that the UFO activity was the result of an educational program that he thought of as “cosmic consciousness conditioning.” He said that the program was conducted by representatives of the extraterrestrial or ultraterrestrial beings to alert the human race about the reality of alien visitation.

Sprinkle published a number of scientific papers in science journals related to the UFO field, some relating to hypnosis and contact with alien beings.

Leo Sprinkle will be long remembered as an advocate for those whose experiences and beliefs are outside the mainstream. He died on November 15, 2021.

Coast to Coast AM - The State of Current Affairs

 

First, I thought I would mention that Avi Loeb, he of the Project Galileo and the search for, well, basically, alien artifacts visiting the Solar System, had brought three people on board including Lue Elizondo, Leon Podesta and Nick Pope. This surprises me only because during my conversations with him, he seemed to want to steer away from an association with UFOs. I had thought a review of UFO history, concentrating on the cases in which there were multiple chains of evidence might be valuable. I thought those cases in which electromagnetic effects had been reported could provide clues about the detection of these artifacts, but Dr. Loeb seemed uninterested. This this latest news suggests that there is something to the UFO phenomenon that might be of use to the project’s purposes.

Levelland, where multiple, independent witnesses reported their cars stalled by
the close approach of a glowing, egg-shape object.

Second, John Greenewald of Black Vault fame has received information through his ongoing FOIA searches that suggests the Navy has classified the UAP reports. That would mean that we, outside the confines of Washington, D.C. and the DoD, have little chance of learning anything about these Navy pilot reports that has sparked this latest interest. If they follow past examples, it means if they find a solution, they

John Greenewald

will report it but if they don’t then we’ll hear nothing about it. This seems to be a retreat into the past. This all happened 70 years ago with the Twining Letter, and then in the late 1960s with the Condon Committee investigation. In the end, everything is reduced to national security which prevents disclosure of the reports. It seems to me that the Deep State is taking over so that they might retain their power. I’m not surprised.

Finally, I’ve found some interesting reports from the last few weeks. On September 12 of this year, the witness said that he had an urge to go outside his home in Idaho. According to the report filed with MUFON, he said, “I felt something tell me to go outside and look up. I saw a boomerang object with two lights banking over my home and then I could see the outline of a triangle and a third light. It then headed west, towards the Mountain Home Air Force Base.”

Idaho MUFON state director Jim Millard closed the case as an unknow vehicle. In his report, he restated that the witness had seen something very large. There were no other aircraft in the area at the time.

Keeping with the triangular-shaped UFOs, and sightings that last longer than a minute, the witness, in Joliet, Illinois, reported three lights in a triangular formation on October 25 of this year. The object, or lights, were four times brighter than the background stars, and seemed to be moving about twenty miles an hour. The witness reported training in aerial identification while serving on the USS Constellation. Based on that training, the witness said, “My best guess places the initial formation at about 3000 feet… to the right of the road, at the same height were additional 10 or more lights about a mile wide… I was able to take a photo with my camera phone as these lights drifted further in a southwesterly direction.”

The sighting lasted about twelve minutes.

A woman, who described herself as a Jewish, divorced mother of three who has a Master’s degree in English, said that she had stepped outside on October 22 of this year, when a flash of light caught her attention. She saw a string of purple-blue lights in an undescribed formation. She said that it made different movements, wobbled, hovered and made sharp zig-zags. The formation was accompanied by a strange buzzing vibration sound and was in sight for one to two minutes. Although she didn’t take any video of the sighting, she said that it resembled one she had seen on YouTube. You should be able to see that at:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh-tCAY0u7I

It does seem that many of these reports are accompanied by video or photographs. Most of those photographs are very good, but cell phone cameras are improving. We just need to keep watching and one of these days we might get a UFO sighting with video taken from multiple angles and the data we could recover would be very interesting.

'X' Zone Broadcast Network - Stan Gordon and the Kecksburg UFO Crash

 

This week, I spoke with Stan Gordon about his investigation into the Kecksburg UFO crash/retrieval. Gordon began his investigation while still a teenager who lived in the area. Since the crash on December 5, 1965, Gordon has worked to learn what happened that night. You can listen the interview here:

https://www.spreaker.com/episode/47417537

Stan Gordon

This interview was an outgrowth of that I had with Robert Young several weeks ago. Gordon and Young are at opposite ends of the spectrum with Young sure that it involved no alien spacecraft and Gordon saying that such a crash is a possibility. You can listen to Young’s interview here:

https://www.spreaker.com/episode/46854217

Although I had asked for a quick synopsis of the events, Gordon started in a slightly different direction. He spoke about some of the things that Young had said before delving into the sighting itself. Frankly, his description, using the term fireball, seemed to reinforce Young’s opinion. I was surprised that he didn’t use a different term.

We discussed who had seen what, but it became clear that the information was gathered years after the event, which, given Gordon’s age in 1965, isn’t all that surprising. What I wanted to know more about was the military presence in Kecksburg on December 5, and if he had talked to any of the soldiers who would have been part of that.

I also was surprised to hear that there were many reporters in the area, but their stories the next day didn’t seem to reflect the scenarios that have been developed since. Gordon mentioned that they had been on the wrong side of the woods to see what the military was doing. I thought that the reporters would have been circulating through the area attempting to learn as much as they could, rather than standing around on the wrong side of the woods.

Mock up of the Kecksburg UFO.

I wondered how the military had gotten the flatbed trucks into the woods to remove the object. Gordon suggested that the object had crashed (landed?) near the edge of the woods and that they had used a small crane to lift if out.

We did discuss some of the witnesses who had seen the acorn-shaped object that was pulled from the woods. I had thought, but didn’t say, that there were no reports of an alien crew. Gordon had mentioned that one man had described the object looking as if it had been made by pouring the metal into a mold so that there were no lines, seams or rivets. As if it was a solid object.

Next week, we head back to Roswell and talk about the possibility that Albert Einstein had been called into the investigation. The guest will be Dr. Peter Strassberg, whose book, When Einstein Visited Roswell will be the topic, though as Dr. Strassberg said, the book also examines a number of topics that would be consistent with interstellar travel.

Coast to Coast - Pilot Sightings

 

First, a quick update. Last week I mentioned the flying humans near LAX were thought to be mannikins and drones. This week, it was announced that they might be some sort of balloon advertising a new movie. I’m still unimpressed with these answers and await more information.

However, I began to look for other reports by pilots. They are considered to be trained observers and should be familiar with many mundane objects seen in the air because they spend a lot of time there. They sometimes supply information that is important to science. On June 30,1954, an airline pilot, James R. Howard, reported he had seen a large object on a flight from New York to London. Although the Air Force wrote this off as Mars, the Condon Committee identified the object as a natural phenomenon so rare it had never been seen before or since, which suggests that something of scientific value would have been learned had they bothered to pursue that. I will note here that both the pilot and co-pilot were interrogated by government officials and told not to talk about the sighting. You can find all the details in The Best of Project Blue Book.

Project Blue Book card providing very little information,
other than the solution was Mars.

Much more recently, on March 19, 2020, the captain of an American Boeing 767 reported an encounter over Mexico. MUFON CAG member, Bob Spearing and MUFON California State Director, Ruben Uriarte investigated the sighting that included pictures of the UFO as well as video.

The sighting began when the first officer, looking toward the left, saw a yellowish light descending that he, at first, thought was a meteor. When it suddenly stopped at the same altitude as the aircraft, he knew that wasn’t the right answer.

The light, or object, flashed a bright beam at the 767 and seemed to be on a collision course. The pilots thought they were looking at the landing lights of an oncoming aircraft. As they began to take evasive action, the beam disappeared and the UFO accelerated, and began pacing the aircraft. The captain said that the UFO stayed about 1200 feet from their airplane.

The light was described as tear drop shaped, a brilliant yellow-white, had no navigation lights but did seem to have a tail. The encounter lasted for thirty minutes and the crew took eight photographs and four short video segments.

As the aircraft approached the Mexico/US border the UFO began to flicker, changed colors from yellow-white to pinkish/purple, and turned to a perpendicular heading away from the aircraft. It flew parallel to the border without crossing into the United States. The rest of the flight to Memphis was uneventful.

Among the conclusions drawn by Uriarte and Spearing were that approaching the 767 from above, stopping/hovering, shining a light on the plane, and then pacing it for over 32 minutes is something that has been seen frequently in the past. The possibility exists that the UFO is a technical device or system under intelligent control. This, they believe, calls for further careful analysis.

To them, this event suggests that UFOs are still a threat to safe aerial navigation. They suggest that flight crews be instructed on procedures if they find themselves in a similar circumstance. You can find the full report here:

https://www.narcap.org/blog/narcaptr20

And remember, this idea that national security is involved in these new UFO reports (Yes, I know we are now supposed to call them UAPs, but I wonder why), is the reason the millions have been spent studying them lately and there is a call to do it all again. But I remember the Air Force Project Blue Book, and then the Condon Committee, and their conclusions that national security wasn’t an issue and nothing new could be learned by studying UFOs. That seems to have been changed.

The point here is that nothing really has changed. On June 25, eyes were focused on the DNI report on UAPs. Today, we seem to have forgotten all about that. I suppose it will be another 70 years before someone else grabs a few headlines and interest is renewed… Unless, of course the Roswell information is revealed or an alien spacecraft lands in Washington D.C. … I mention Washington because I don’t think our politicians will believe the leaders of another country saying that UFOs are alien spacecraft.

'X' Zone Broadcast Network - Greg Lawson and His Roswell Book

Greg Lawson was the guest today. He is a former police officer, former soldier, former airman and former sailor. He has been studying the paranormal for decades, and

Greg Lawson

has a special interest in the Roswell UFO case. His book, Roswell: The After Action Report is different from the other books in that he attacks the question as a police investigator rather than as a UFO researcher. It means that he comes at the case from, well, a different perspective. You can listen to the show here:

https://www.spreaker.com/episode/47299923

He did surprise me by suggesting that Thomas DuBose, the Chief of Staff for the 8^th Eighth Air Force in Fort Worth in 1947 was a major witness, and maybe the most important of the witnesses. He thought that because DuBose was on both ends of the coverup, whatever the cause of the coverup was, he would have a special insight. Others who fit into that category such as General Ramey and Colonel Blanchard had died prior to the renewed interest in the case. DuBose left some video evidence about what he had seen and done.

We also talked about Jesse Marcel, Sr. and his involvement in the case. I’d just gone through the interview with Bob Pratt done in 1979. You can see Pratt’s notes and transcript of that interview here:

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2013/09/jesse-marcel-sr-bob-pratt-and-interview.html

The pages of the interview are at the end of the posting. You can see Marcel’s words, and the way the notes were taken. That provides some insight into this aspect of the case.

Having gone through that interview again, I was a little disturbed by some of the claims Marcel had made about his military service and his educational background. These have been reported on in the past, including Marcel’s claim about shooting down five enemy aircraft. No record of his claim exists, and as I learned, records of this sort of activity do exist. The Air Force (okay, the Army Air Forces) kept track of that during the war. One sergeant flying as a gunner in a bomber is recorded as having shot down 17 enemy planes. The list begins with those having downed a single enemy craft but Marcel’s name does not appear on the list anywhere.

That and other embellishments would be devastating to the Roswell case if there were not other witnesses to the crash. That means, simply, that if Marcel was stand alone, his testimony about the crash could be dismissed, but there are, literally, dozens of other witnesses to some aspects of the case. That includes the majority of Blanchard’s primary staff, to other officers and enlisted soldiers who participated in some aspect of the recovery and civilians who found debris or witnessed some other aspects of the case. In other words, Marcel’s tale of the UFO crash and the look of the debris is corroborated independently by others.

We eventually got around to Mogul and the Air Force offer of the balloon arrays as the culprit in the recovery. Here, I probably should mention, again, that everyone agrees that something fell near Roswell. It’s the identify that is in question. I’m not going to report the list of reasons that Mogul doesn’t work here again. Those interested can pick up a copy of Roswell in the 21^st Century for a detailed analysis, or just type Mogul into the search engine on this blog and you’ll have more than enough information.

There were many other things that I wanted to explore, but we just ran out of time. The conversation was interesting, at least for me and that’s what counts (well, it’s really the audience interest that counts. My interest is a gauge of that). I’ll have Greg back on the program in the future so that we can hit some of the other points.

Next up is the long-promised interview with Stan Gordon. We’ll get his take on the Kecksburg UFO crash. And the following week, I’ll talk with Dr. Peter Strassburg about his book, When Einstein Went to Roswell. 

Lieutenant Colonel Joe C. Briley and Project Mogul, Again

 

I get so tired of having to repeat the same thing over and over. Those writing on various UFO related subjects just don’t bother to find the latest and best information available. They find what they want and go no further. Just the other day, in a 2021 publication, I read about Mac Brazel. It has been two decades or more since Tom Carey and Don Schmitt discovered that Mac Brazel was actually Mack Brazel. Trivial? Sure, but it’s not all that difficult to find the proper and current information.

As I was doing some research on Lieutenant Colonel Joe Briley, who, in 1947, was the Operations Officer for the 509^th Bomb Group, when I found a relatively new posting about him and the Roswell UFO crash. As I read the information, I saw that someone, in this case Patrick Gross, had reviewed the case and formed a number of conclusions based on his research.

At the bottom of the rather and complex posting, Gross wrote, “Joe Briley was probably a Lieutenant, not a Lieutenant Colonel, at the time of the incident, and was probably a Lieutenant Colonel when he retired from the Air Force.”

I don’t know why he would have thought this. If he had bothered to search out a page from the 1947 Yearbook that Walter Haut prepared in the summer of 1947, and which was published in November of that year, he would have seen a page devoted to “Staff Officers,” with a picture of Lieutenant Colonel Joe C. Briley listed as the Operations Officer. Copies of that picture are available on the Internet and can be found with little effort. And, of course, it proves that Briley, in 1947, was a Lieutenant Colonel.

The "Staff Officers" page from the 1947 Yearbook, as it appears
on the Internet.

From there we move to Project Mogul. There are some other speculations by Gross about the Mogul team visiting the Roswell Army Air Field. I’m going to ignore most of them because I covered this in depth in Roswell in the 21^st Century (which he apparently read). I will note, however, that those on the Mogul team, including Dr. Albert Crary, visited the base in June and July, 1947, as they recovered, or attempted to recover, the remains of their Mogul flights. On one occasion they stopped there to refuel the weapons carrier they were driving because it was issued to them by the military in Alamogordo. That simply means they could draw fuel from another base as needed. According to Crary, they had no trouble entering the base and drawing the fuel, not to mention that the remains of a Mogul flight were in the back of the weapons carrier, in plain view.

There is something else that should be pointed out. It is something that the supporters of the Mogul theory overlook, and that is that Flight No. 4, the culprit in all this, never flew. Crary’s diary, field notes and the typed transcript of those notes, all show that the flight had been cancelled due to clouds. By agreement, or CAA (FAA) regulation, they were not allowed to launch the arrays at night or in cloudy weather because the arrays were a hazard to aerial navigation. Charles Moore, who was on the Mogul team in 1947, reported that Flight No. 4 was actually launched at 2:30 or 3:00 a.m., in violation of those rules. And, if we believe Crary’s diary, it was then cancelled because of clouds after it was launched. At least that it what Moore would have us believe.

The real problem with Mogul is the misleading claim used by the Air Force and the skeptics. They say these launches were somehow so secret that those in New Mexico, meaning the men of the 509^th, wouldn’t have known about them. The problem here is that those same regulations that prohibited flights in the clouds and at night also required that NOTAMs (Notice to Airmen) be filed announcing the launches because of that threat to aerial navigation. Even if you wish to claim that those at Roswell wouldn’t have known about the flights from the Mogul team, they would have learned about them from the NOTAMs, which were provided to all civilian and military airfields.

Even worse for these arguments is that what was happening in New Mexico wasn’t highly classified. It wasn’t even classified at all. True, the ultimate purpose of Mogul was classified but the balloon flights in New Mexico were not. The equipment being used was off the shelf, meaning, of course, that the neoprene balloons and the rawin radar targets were nothing special, had not been created for Mogul, but had been adapted from other purposes like weather observations. In other words, weather stations around the country routinely launched these neoprene balloons and rawin radar targets in their observations of winds aloft conditions. The material was easily recognized by all sorts of people including farmers and ranchers who often found them in their fields.

In fact, the Mogul operation in New Mexico, was used in 1947 to cover the recovery of the material found by Mack Brazel. On July 10, 1947, in a number of newspapers, were pictures of the Mogul array, on the ground, and a description of the operation. In one of the photographs is a ladder, which I mention only because Charles Moore told me that he had bought the ladder with petty cash in Alamogordo.

Front page of the Alamogordo News for July 10, 1947. The pictures are of
the Mogul team and their project. The ladder in the center pictures is
the one that Charles Moore bought in Alamogordo.

Finally, there is a criticism that the whole transcripts of the interviews with Briley hadn’t been published. In a point that is labeled, “What he allegedly said,” there were quotes, but not the whole thing, suggesting that the quotes were cherry-picked to provide evidence for a specific point of view. While it is true that I haven’t published the transcripts, there is nothing in them that hasn’t been accurately related and by reading the whole transcripts, the conclusions don’t change. But the truth is that there is no allegedly said about it. This is what he said in the context of my interviews with him.

These are just a few of the problems with that analysis of what Joe Briley said. We move from deciding that he hadn’t been a Lieutenant Colonel in 1947, with no reason to suspect that and evidence to the contrary to the assumption that the quotes attributed to him haven’t been fully revealed. There is no reason to assume that they haven’t been honestly reported, other than a desire to reduce the importance of what he said. Had there been some evidence to show that the information has been manipulated, that would be one thing. But to assume that because Gross hadn’t seen the whole transcripts or notes from the interviews that there is missing information is another. The quotes that I have attributed to him are accurate and in context and I know because I conducted the interviews. Everything else suggested by Gross is speculation without evidence.

Coast to Coast - Flying Humans and Tall Whites

I thought I would do write something a little different, especially with Halloween coming up. You’ve heard of those strange sightings of humans flying around without benefit of an airplane, with some of the most recent reports coming from the Los Angeles airport. I don’t think the culprit in those cases has been found. It is just one of those bizarre things that are reported periodically.

Looking at the videos, and examining some of the documentation, there is a suggestion that those sightings at LAX might by of a mannikin and a drone. I’m not convinced by that answer, though it seems more likely than some of the others that have been offered. You can watch a video about this here:

https://www.google.com/search?q=lax+flying+man&ei=PVd8YcHBK5qttQbDi7voDw&start=10&sa=N&ved=2ahUKEwiB1MXRuPDzAhWaVs0KHcPFDv0Q8tMDegQIARA3&biw=1706&bih=817&dpr=1

In Chicago, there have been a number of sightings of something that seems to be large and seems to be bat shaped but is too large to be a bat. You can learn more about that here:

https://patch.com/illinois/chicago/winged-freak-terrorizes-chicago-waitll-you-get-load-these-29-sightings

The Chicago creature. Although there is no foreground detail in this still from
the video, that detail can be seen there which provides some perspective.

However, David Jacobs has suggested that there is an alien presence on Earth and that hybrids that have human traits are walking among us. Some of these reports might be the result of that. One of the strangest of these sightings came from Deland, Florida, during July of this year.

The witness, known only as Larry, reported in a series of communications that there were strange, unidentified figures on the roof of the local courthouse. Larry noted that there was nothing for the beings to stand on to look over the wall, the figures were eight or nine feet tall. Larry said that he reported this to the local police because the courthouse had been locked and there was no way for the beings to get onto the roof, though clearly, based on the pictures he took, they were there.

Larry also reported the sighting to his boss. Together, they spotted a figure, and later a second one, on the roof. His boss also called the police. The police investigated, found the doors had been properly locked but there was no one on the roof. It was somewhat mysterious because no one had seen them leave.

In the fourth report from Larry, he said that he had seen a figure floating along the roof. He grabbed his camera and took more photographs of that figure and then of another. He said that one figure approached the edge of the roof and seemed to be wearing a military style hat. Another had a long neck and wore something about his neck.

The "strange" being on the roof of the courthouse.

William Puckett has analyzed the pictures and reported, “I don’t have any reason to believe this is a hoaxed report.” There were other witnesses, there are photographs, and the witnesses did call the police. If it is a hoax, then the witnesses are not the perpetrators of it. This is a very strange circumstance. You can read about this sighting here:

https://www.ufosnw.com/newsite/courthouse-employees-see-strange-tall-beings-gliding-on-roof/  

To add to the evidence, weak though it is, you can read a similar story about a tall alien creature in the Philadelphia area here:

https://www.ufosnw.com/newsite/category/top-cases-2012/

Larry noted, again, that the railing around the roof is five feet high and there is nothing to stand on near it. He concludes that the beings are very tall, and reminded him of what he had read about the “Tall Whites,” as related to UFO sightings.

It seems that the idea of the Tall Whites comes from an encounter, or series of encounters, by Charles Hall, who claims to have been a nuclear physicist and an ex-military weather specialist. While assigned to the Nellis Bomber Range in the 1960s, he claimed to have been in regular contact with the Tall Whites. They were seen to glide as they moved and were as tall as nine feet.

Little or no real verification has been offered for Hall’s wild tales, and are of interest here, only because the similarity to the beings seen on the courthouse roof as described by Larry.

While they were not exactly flying humanoids, this does fit into the pattern of strange beings including the Mothman on which John Keel reported in the 1960s. I confess I don’t know what to make of all these reports but will note that there is photographic evidence for some of them. In the world of the paranormal, sometimes that’s about all we can ask for. 

Coast to Coast - The Missing UAP Report (Short Version)

 

As I’m sure you all remember, the June 25 ridiculous report on the UAPs provided no analysis, no real investigation and we were told that 143 of the 144 reports were unidentified. We don’t know how many sightings were involved; just how many reports had been made which is not exactly the same thing. There could have been multiple reports for each sighting reducing that number but since they didn’t publish any of that data, we just don’t know. We were told that there would be a follow up in 90 days which would have been September 25. That hasn’t happened, as near as I can tell.

What I did find was that Representative Ruben Gallego had introduced and pushed legislation that would require a permanent office working under the Secretary of Defense to, I want to say, “investigate,” but what was really suggested was the “timely and consistent reporting,” of what we now call UAPs, but that are really flying saucers. There seems to be no mechanism for investigation and if not, then what is the point, really. Sure, that could be developed later, the conflict in the government seems to make that somewhat unlikely.

I also noticed that the Secretary of the Air Force, Frank Kendall, said that he didn’t think the UAPs were a serious enough threat to demand his attention… and at the opposite end, Deputy Defense Secretary, Kathleen Hicks, ordered the various military branches and various civilian organizations under the DoD to formalize a mission to provide a plan to gather the data. This seems to underscore the power of the Deep State to divide us. It also suggests the Deep State is still working to keep much of the UFO data hidden away.

Gathering data is an intelligence function but so is investigation and analysis and that seems to be missing in all this discussion. Gathering data and sticking it in a file cabinet, or feeding it into a database doesn’t accomplish much. You can read the more in-depth analysis here:

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2021/10/where-is-uap-update.html

And to show what I mean; I have a report from Newport Beach, California. The witness said that they, he along with his two children, stepped outside when he noticed a bright, metallic looking object in the sky on September 13 of this year. He said it that it was just one object that seemed to be hovering. There was no sound associated with it.

Newport Beach photo courtesy of William Puckett at www.ufosnw.com. 

After watching it for a few seconds, the witness began filming. The UFO appeared to change shape and spin or maybe turn and flash. None of the witnesses were able to identify the object saying that it wasn’t a plane, helicopter, drone or balloon. The object drifted to the east and they lost sight of it. You can watch the video here:

https://www.ufosnw.com/newsite/video-taken-of-hovering-bright-metallic-flashing-object/

The real point is that we’re right back where we began some seventy years ago. Government taking an interest in flying saucers, or, at least pretending they do. But it seems the fires has already gone out of this latest interest in UFOs.

'X' Broadcast Network -Nick Redfern and his Time Travel Book

 

I received a copy of Nick Redfern’s new book Time Travel: Science and Science Fiction and since I enjoy time travel stories, I invited him on the show. I mentioned that I had written a number of science fiction books about time travel, including one in which there is a war in time. Each side jumping back and forth to win a battle that they thought they had already won but found a history of different results. That was On the Second Tuesday of Next Week (link to the book on the left side of the blog).

Nick Redfern from about
a decade ago (in Denver).

To begin the discussion, I mentioned the tale of the thunderbird, which is a gigantic bird that was supposedly seen in the Old West. There was supposed to be a picture taken of the bird after a couple of cowboys had killed one. Many claimed to have seen the picture in various magazines in the past, but searches today failed to find it. You can listen to the program here:

https://www.spreaker.com/episode/47072685

In the world today, there are pictures that are supposed to be that original, but none can be traced to an original source. Some look as if they were taken in the Old West but they are clever and well-done fakes.  I said that I would publish some of the photographs here, but the truth is, the tale is too long for a picture or two. You can read the research about the thunderbird and see the original sources of some of the pictures here:

https://themothman.fandom.com/wiki/The_Missing_Thunderbird_Photo

In an interesting story was about nightmares that seemed to be predictive of the future. Nick mentioned that three people had contacted him of, as he described it, “Atomic Armageddon,” after an American president was assassinated by a foreign agent. This was supposed to ignite the war.

Such a dream wouldn’t be all that disturbing to the rest of us but Nick pointed out that three people had related the same nightmare (anyone want to mention The Stand?). Nick suggested that this war was supposed to start in 2017, which means that the danger has passed… at least for now.

We also talked about the Philadelphia Experiment, that supposed tale of the US Navy teleporting a ship that has evolved into some kind of time travel story. I mentioned that I had even interviewed one of the naval officers who had participated in the story when Carlos Allende sent his ravings to the Office of Naval Research. You can read about my take on this here:

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2016/08/chasing-sources-philadelphia-experiment.html

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2012/12/geezers-vs-youngsters.html

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2009/07/allende-letters.html

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2016/09/brad-steiger-and-real-visitors-voices.html

 

 

We concluded with some discussion of the tale told by Al Bielek and why it seems to be more fraud than fact. The AOL newsfeed periodically recycles the story as if it is something new and real. So much for the state of Internet journalism…

I did mention, at the beginning of the show, that the UAP report that should have arrived around September 25, had not. You can read my full analysis here:

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2021/10/where-is-uap-update.html

Next week, with luck, I’ll be talking with Stan Gordon and his take on the Kecksburg UFO crash. Stan has spent, literally, decades investigating the case and he should provide an interesting perspective.

Where is the UAP Update?

 

I seem to remember, back in June, upon the release of the UAP report that told us nothing really, that there would be a follow up in 90 days. That meant we should have heard something around September 25, but I don’t remember seeing anything about it. The date seems to have come and gone without any sort of follow up.

Instead, we are told that Arizona democrat and Iraq War veteran (oh, who isn’t?) Representative Ruben Gallego, had introduced and pushed legislation that would require a permanent office working under the Secretary of Defense to, I want to say, “investigate,” but what was really suggested was the “timely and consistent reporting,” of what we now call UAPs, but that are really flying saucers.

This seems to imply that the office to oversee this timely and consistent reporting will be housed in the Pentagon and will have its chain of command start with the Secretary of Defense. That seems to suggest that importance is being attached to the activity, but I note here that the 90-day update has not been seen.

Lt. Gen. Nathan Twining

I also think of this, as I have said a number of times, as Twining 2.0. Back in 1947, after all the hoopla of the summer, and the request that the Air Materiel Command review a list of sightings containing specific information, there was an order issued… or maybe something more in the line of a directive issued by Lieutenant General Nathan F. Twining, that, said, “It is recommended that:”

a. Headquarters, Army Air Forces issue a directive assigning a priority, security classification and Code Name for a detailed study of this matter to include the preparation of complete sets of all available and pertinent data which will then be available to the Army, Navy, Atomic Energy Commission, JRD3, the Air Force Scientific Advisory Group, NACA, the RAND and NEPA projects for comments and recommendations with a preliminary report to be forwarded within 15 days of receipt of this data and a distilled report there after every 30 days as the investigation develops. A complete interchange of data should be effected.

That letter from Twining was dated September 23, 1947 or, in other words more than seven decades ago. And here we are, in 2021, doing the same thing. Let’s set up an office to seriously deal with these UAPs.

And how did that original idea work out… Well, there were factions inside the government that worked against it. Upon completion of an intelligence analysis of the data, known as the Estimate of the Situation, the Air Force Chief of Staff, General Hoyt S. Vandenberg, decided that the information wasn’t of sufficient substance to reach the conclusions it reached and nearly everyone involved with it was fired or sent to other tasks. The action made it clear… The Chief of Staff didn’t believe in flying saucers, therefore no one else would believe either.

In 1953, the CIA requested, and got, the best information collected by the Air Force project, deemed it inadequate and recommended that the project be stripped of its glorified status. The Robertson Panel, as it was called, suggested that a campaign be created to “educate” the public about the UFOs and remove the mystery from them. I’ll note here that there was no mention by Robertson, that UFOs required further investigation. The conclusions were obvious.

In the late 1960s, the Air Force finally convinced a university to make a “scientific” study of UFOs. Of course, documentation available to us today shows that the conclusions of this scientific study were drawn up prior to any investigation. It was decided, in 1969, that more research would provide nothing of value and that there was no threat to national security. Project Blue Book was closed and the Air Force ended its investigation of UFOs forever.

So, here we are today. Another leader, this time a civilian in the House of Representatives, is pushing for a serious investigation of UAPs. Gallego, said that there was a lack of focus in the intelligence communities or what he termed the national security apparatus, and he that no one, other than “curiosity seekers” who had an interest in the UFO, now UAP reports, was doing anything.

Apparently, this legislation was passed as part of the National Defense Authorization Act. They have 180 days to establish the office to gather all the data throughout the DoD.

The Secretary of the Air Force, Frank Kendall, said that he didn’t think the UAPs were a serious enough threat to demand his attention… Or, as Hoyt Vandenberg said seven decades ago, “Stop wasting my time…” Well, he didn’t actually say that. He just made it clear to all that he didn’t think of the flying saucers as a serious threat, even when presented with a document created by high-ranking members of the Air Force and their civilian counterparts that suggested otherwise.

On the other hand, Deputy Defense Secretary, Kathleen Hicks, ordered the various military branches and various civilian organizations under the DoD to formalize a mission provide a plan to gather the data... Formalize a plan, what a wonderful bureaucratic idea.

But here’s point that I don’t think was made. If the Secretary of the Air Force isn’t all that interested, and the directive comes from a civilian Deputy Defense Secretary, haven’t we already established a conflict? And, haven’t we seen all this in the past, several times. We know what the outcome is going to be, because we’ve seen that outcome in the past as well.

Apparently Gallego was unimpressed with all this. He said that he thought the government was not sharing all the information that it had about UFOs, I mean, UAPs. He wants to hold public hearings but that too, has been done. Nothing has come from that either.

What I’m saying here is that we’re walking down the same path once again and we’re going to expect a different result. It doesn’t matter what you say about it, how you claim that we have military pilots involved, we have instruments involved, we have multiple observers… We’ve had all that before, and in the end, the answer has always been that there is nothing to this. It’s no threat to national security. There are more important issues than something unidentified and that might by a natural phenomenon or a misidentification of something truly mundane. Let’s deal with the real challenges before we move into the realm of the exotic.

I say we need a good, unbiased investigation, but I don’t think that’s going to happen. It’s been tried for more than 70 years and there is always something to stop the truth. Why would this be any different?

'X' zone Broadcast Network - Jen Stein on Travis Walton

 

This week’s guest was Jennifer Stein, who is responsible for the documentary, Travis, about, what else, the Travis Walton abduction. This came about because of things that Mike Rogers had said, not only on this program, but what he said to others. In one case, Rogers had said that the whole thing was a hoax, only to retract that statement, in a matter of speaking not long after making it. I had reached out to various colleagues to solicit opinions on this, and ended up speaking with Stein. I thought she would make an interesting counter to some of what Rogers had said. You can listen to the program here:

https://www.spreaker.com/episode/46966498

One of the things we discussed was the Steven Pierce tale that Philip Klass had offered him, that is Pierce, ten thousand dollars to admit to the hoax. You’ll remember just a couple of weeks ago I talked to Robert Sheaffer about that. Sheaffer

had said that he’d read a transcript of the conversations between Klass and Pierce and it seemed that no such offer had been made. It was just some sort of a misunderstanding because of a rumor allegedly started by Rogers. I hadn’t seen the transcripts at that time but Sheaffer was sure that his interpretation was the correct one. Stein wasn’t so sure. I have added the transcripts at the end of this post for those who wish to read them can do so. I’ll be interested in what each of you thinks, having listened to the show and seen the transcripts.

But I also have to mention that there may have been communication from Klass to Pierce through the local police department. So, when Klass mentions they had never met or talked with one another, that was the truth. Once again, we have a conflict about what happened, when it happened and how it happened. It really comes down do who you wish to believe about all this.

I also mentioned that I had no trust in James Harder, having worked with him in 1976 on an abduction investigation. I saw Harder manipulating the situation between the recorded hypnotic regression sessions. He provided the script in the guise of attempting to provide comfort to the witness. He mentioned to me that his job was to validate the Barney and Betty Hill abduction case by finding another, credible case. I would have thought that his job was to find the truth.

He provided information between the sessions that appeared in the next session. He mentioned to the witness that Betty Hill thought she had been physically examined and in the very next session with the witness, the witness said that she knew she had been examined. Stein pointed out that Harder had but one session with Walton and there really had been no opportunity for him to influence Walton’s memories of the event. Stein thought the session was more of a relaxation exercise because, for Walton, the abduction was quite stressful. In other words, Harder’s part of the story was small and probably unimportant.

For those interested, you can visit Jen Stein’s website about Travis, the documentary she produced here:

TravisWaltonTheMovie.com

And for those interested in the Virtual Conference that will be held on November 6, you can find information about it here:

TheObservation.com

Next week, I’ll talking with Nick Redfern about his latest book, Time Travel. And the following week, for those of you who don’t think I was fair when I interviewed Bob Young, I’ll be chatting with Stan Gordon. We’ll get his take on all this, meaning the Kecksburg UFO crash. Stan had been investigating the case for decades.

Click on the document to expand... Klass' transcript of his telephone conversation with Steve Pierce.

'X' Zone Broadcast Network - Bob Young and the Kecksburg UFO Crash

 Bob Young was my guest this week. I had asked him on the show to discuss his take on the Kecksburg UFO Crash of December 1965. Now, I knew that Bob was a skeptic and that he had, what he thought to be a logical though terrestrial explanation for the crash tale. You can listen to that here:

https://www.spreaker.com/episode/46854217

I will admit here that at one time, looking at the evidence, I believed there were five 

Bob Young and friend. I
don't know which is which.

solid cases of UFO crashes, or in one case, an emergency landing. In the world today, with better information, with access to a wide variety of sources and witnesses, I’m not sure that five is an accurate number. I’m sure that I’ll disappoint Stan Gordon by suggesting my opinion more closely matches that of Bob than it does his. However, you can listen to the show I did with Stan to get his perspective here:

https://youtu.be/oUn4kdCq_3E

 And for those who wish to read his opinions on the Kecksburg UFO crash, you can find that here:

http://www.stangordon.info/wp/2015/12/04/kecksburg-ufo-witness-says-object-was-not-ge-mark-2-reentry-vehicle-2/

We did talk of other things such as the nature of skepticism and the nature of evidence. I know that some skeptics require the actual crash ship or the bodies of the alien crew before they’ll concede interstellar flight and alien visitation. I mentioned the Levelland sightings which does provide multiple chains of evidence and wondered if something like that would rise to the level of solid evidence for him.

Bob, I think, wanted something more tangible than multiple witnesses at multiple locations, but did concede that it wouldn’t take a crash saucer and dead crew to convince him. It’s all a matter of the level of evidence required. Some set the bar very high, and some set it a little lower… of course, if you’ve seen a flying saucer and experienced some of the effects of a close approach, your take on all this might be somewhat different.

Next week I’ll be talking with Jennifer Stein about her experiences and interactions with Travis Walton. She had spent quite a bit of time researching the case and is responsible for the documentary, Travis. You might say we’ll look at the case from a different perspective.

Coast to Coast - MADAR and a Red Light

 

As you all know, I’m a fan of multiple chains of evidence, especially when there is instrumentality involved. The idea of gathering evidence without human interaction is part of the theory behind the MADAR Network run by Fran Ridge.

Fran Ridge

I mention all this because on September 6 of this year, a MADAR Node 21 in Indiana experienced a possible anomaly at 6:26 in the morning. There were readings that suggested something nearby for a period of twenty-three seconds. We don’t have to estimate the length of time because it was all recorded automatically. The node operator used Facebook to request that anyone who had seen anything strange that morning to get in touch with him.

Jeff Hall, a retired police officer, was in a parking lot in the Indianapolis area, facing to the west at about that same time. He reported that he saw a black, cigar-shaped craft with seven, round, white lights on the trailing edge. He said that the UFO was flying at about 1800 to 2000 feet and was making no noise. He believed it to be about a half mile away, and estimated the size as about 300 feet. He watched the object until he was forced to drive off and then lost sight of it. He did say that he had seen a similar object in August.

This is the second time in the last month in which there was an anomaly detected with a corresponding sighting. Remember, in Goshen, Kentucky, the witness also saw a triangular-shaped object. I reported on this a couple of weeks ago. This suggests that the MADAR system is beginning to function as Fran Ridge planned. You can read more about this case here:

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2021/09/coast-to-coast-madar-detections.html

On October 3 of this year, the witness in Monmouth County, New Jersey, took video of a UFO. He said that he first noticed the light reflected on his TV screen, but it was moving around, and seemed to be changing size and shape. He used his phone to take video of the object. It seems that he was focusing on the reflection which does reduce the importance of the video.

He did have another video, taken the day before about four in the morning. He said that the stars were so bright that he was attempting to video them when he saw something that he described as a string of bright lights that shot across the sky. He said that he was holding the camera completely still without zooming in and out.

William Puckett, who analyzed these videos, suggested that the motion and the changing shape of the object might be the result of the witness moving his camera around.

https://www.ufosnw.com/newsite/red-light-appears-by-tv-set-changes-shape/

Finally, in the last week there has been discussion that Albert Einstein was summoned to a base in the desert southwest to examine the remains of an alien spaceship and the bodies of the flight crew. This was first published by Len Stringfield in 1994 and UFO magazine reported on it in the mid-1990s. The investigation into this continues with many of us attempting to verify parts of the tale. I have a number of entries on my blog including the entire text of Stringfield’s report on this that includes his critical commentary.