Friday, October 11, 2024

Immaculate Constellation - My Analysis

 

Last night, on my normal UFO segment on Coast-to-Coast AM, I mentioned something called Immaculate Constellation, which, according to a whistleblower, who is never identified, is a top-secret archive of UFO, well, UAP images. According to the whistleblower, the military and intelligence community are operating a database of videos and images taken from "infrared (IR), forward-looking infrared (FLIR), full motion video (FMV), and still photography of UAPs.

The whistleblower alleged that the Department of Defense created Immaculate Constellation under what's known as an Unacknowledged Special Access Program (USAP) in 2017 after The New York Times reported on an informal Pentagon UAP program known as AATIP.

Reporter Michael Shellenberger of Public said on "Joe Rogan Experience" that in the whistleblower's report, the Pentagon is "illegally" hiding information about this program from Congress.

The whistleblower said that simply printing the name "Immaculate Constellation" could trigger government surveillance of whoever publishes the name using the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act as probable cause. They won't comment on it, but talking about it will put you in the danger zone. I guess that means I am now in the “Danger Zone,” which sounds like a good name for a podcast or a rock band. BTW: Agents, if you come for me, please don’t crash through the door. I’ll happily open it for you.

DoD spokeswoman Sue Gough, who has been called on many times as UFO and UAP questions are asked, denied on Wednesday, any knowledge of a special access program known as Immaculate Constellation. I’m not sure that this is relevant because if it was a special access program which would also suggest a need to know and she might not have been in the loop. Would a spokeswoman, or spokesman for that matter, be read into every highly classified program? If they are not then they have plausible deniability, meaning that she can say such things as having no knowledge of a program and be telling the truth. Doesn’t mean the program doesn’t exist, only that she doesn’t know about it.

I am reminded that when the Moon Dust was inadvertently revealed in 1986, the Air Force denied that such a program existed. When shown official documents with the name Moon Dust on them, a higher-ranking Air Force officer said Moon Dust did exist but had not been used. Other documents refuted that claim as well. For more precise information on this see:

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2024/03/aaro-and-beginning-of-moon-dust.html

The point is that the first officer, Lieutenant Colonel John E. Madison, of the Congressional Inquiry Division, Office of Liaison, wrote, “There is no agency, nor has there ever been, at Fort Belvoir, Viriginia, which would deal with UFOs or have any information about the incident in Roswell. In addition, there is no Project Moon Dust or Operation Blue Fly. Those missions have never existed.”

Most of what Madison wrote was the truth. There may well not have been any agency at Fort Belvoir that dealt with UFOs or Roswell, which, course, doesn’t mean that such agencies might not exist at other installations. And he is accurate in saying there is no Project Moon Dust because Moon Dust was the code words dealing with UFO material.

So, Madison wasn’t lying, he just didn’t have access to all the information he needed to properly answer the questions put to him. However, when the documents were presented and properly vetted, meaning the source of the documents was legitimate, Colonel George M. Mattingley, Jr., wrote, “…Upon further review of the case (which was aided by the several attachments to Mr. Stone’s letter), we wish to amend the statements contained in the previous response…”

Cliff Stone


The point is that even people at the highest levels aren’t read into all programs and a denial by Gough that she had no knowledge of such a program doesn’t mean there is no such program.

The real problem here is that Shellenberger has not identified his source. Years ago, decades really, we were presented with documents suggesting a cover up of the Roswell UFO crash. These papers, known as MJ-12, appeared at the home of a UFO researcher. Well, photographic film arrived and when developed, revealed the existence of a special group known as MJ-12 to exploit and direct the recovery of the Roswell UFO.

The trouble with these documents was that we didn’t know who had sent them. We didn’t know where they originated. Finally, we didn’t have the originals which could have been tested. What good would it do to test the paper on which they were printed? We all know that it was photographic paper.

Investigation into the information provided by the MJ-12 documents suggested they had been created in 1984 rather than 1952 as alleged on the documents. In 1984, there was a believe that the Del Rio UFO crash, which in the MJ-12 documents, is mentioned as El Indio-Guerrero crash. But there is no evidence and the lone witness changed so much about it over the years, that it is clear that it was invented. You can read one analysis of the case here:

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2011/08/absense-of-evidence.html

The point is that originally the MJ-12 documents caused a stir not only in the UFO community but among the news media and those interested in UFOs. Investigation revealed the flaws and the major flaw was we didn’t know the original source. Without that, we were left with an interesting aside into the possibility of a cover up. Eventually, nearly everyone agreed that the documents were a hoax and that was underscored by the lack of the original source.

That’s where we are with Immaculate Constellation. We have no source and we don’t even have copies of documents suggesting there is something to the claims. At least, MJ-12 had documents, which led to the revelation that it was a hoax. For an in depth analysis see Case MJ-12: Updated.

I’ll note here that for years Stan Friedman held up several documents that related to UFOs that were nearly all redacted. There were only one or two words on a page that could be read. This was proof of the cover up. However, we now have the unredacted versions of those documents and realize that the missing information had nothing to do with UFOs but with intelligence collection methods in certain parts of the world. That information would have been of value to our competitors in the world and was rightly redacted. This merely shows that sometimes, we over react to government secrecy.

We can look to whistleblower David Grusch. He talked of high-level, important people who told him about UFO crashes, but he supplied no names. I can deduce some of those names and while they had once held important posts in the government or were respected scientists, that didn’t say anything about Grusch’s sources other than we have the names. Didn’t prove what they had told Grush, or that Grush overheard, was accurate information, only that they might have said it.

I point all this out because we now have more information about an important government program hidden from the public which, supposedly hides information about UFOs or rather UAP. But we have no way of vetting the information. We have no way of finding corroboration. We just must believe the stories told by this unidentified source. And I ask, “Why?”

Here's something else that hasn’t been considered and that is that this collection of UFO images might not have a thing to do with alien visitation, but is, instead, images of terrestrial craft that have been flying around various locations in the US. It might be that the images are held in secrecy because revelation of them might provide information of intelligence value to our competitors. In other word, national security might have raised its ugly head.

I could go on about other great stories circulating or circulated in the UFO field that intrigued and excited people inside and outside the UFO community that blew up when we finally were able to get to the sources.

Right now, I can’t verify that Immaculate Constellation exists, but then I can’t reject the tale either because the evidence to do that doesn’t yet exist. I can only caution against drawing any concrete conclusions now because we simply don’t have enough information to just either way to justify any conclusion.

15 comments:

William G. Pullin said...

Thank you Kevin. Without any specific details about the alleged whistleblower, no definitive declaration can be made, in any direction.
In that spirit, have any claims from any alleged whistleblowers come to fruition? Historically, no.
Thanks again Kevin, hope you are doing well.

Spartacus01 said...

I agree with everything you said. We must be cautious and wait for more proof in one way or the other. However, I must say, the idea that there might be a secret program that focuses on recollecting images of UFOs is far more credible than a lot of the other outlandish claims that have been made by certain people in recent years.

John Steiger said...

Kevin: Thank you very much for this astute, fair-minded analysis. Greatly appreciated!

Doctor Zip said...

The phenomenon is metaphysical, a mix of science and spirituality.

Joeschmoe said...

The focus of several bloggers is to hope that congressional aides to their respective representatives can light a fire under the majority of elected members of Congress by proclaiming that they're being kept in the dark by the DOD and the IC and that this is illegal and in violation of the constitution and by laws.I don't think the Pentagon takes congressional power seriously including the fact that our elected officials have unfavorable ratings by the majority of the public.Nor is the MS News media viewed favorably and cannot be trusted to do a little investigative journalism, as well ...or is in the pockets of the "so- called" deep state( yeh, Kevin , I read your book!)
Perhaps if there is one whistle blower privy to accurate and verifiable information,unafraid of losing their career and facing prison time that will be forthcoming, maybe others will come publicly forward and back them up.
As far as Susan Gough, I seem to recall photos of her accompanying Kirkpatrick in the final few months as the AARO Director.Was he being kept on a short leach?

Louis Nicholson said...

Given the current news that our miltary allegedly has not been able to figure out anything about some mundane drones that flew over its military bases for 17 days last year, I wonder whether it would have the wherewithal to even attempt to investigate UFOs. Maybe the "drones" are really UFOs!

KRandle said...

Talked about this on Coast-to-Coast AM tonight.

James tankersley said...

Hi Kevin! Concerning the MJ-12 documents, did you see what they looked like on that film Bill Moore received? Its entirely possible that the date formats were changed deliberately so no one can prove they were the real thing and the other mistakes you noticed would indicate this. Right now i believe MJ-12 was working and are still working for the control group, since too many people have mentioned that name long before the TV programs The X Files and Dark Skies came up with story lines mentioning them?

KRandle said...

James -

Since the wrong dating format on the documents matches a dating format used by Moore, it would seem that it wasn't changed. It was an error by those who created the document but had no real military experience. Right now, it is clear that the documents were a hoax. We do not have the original documents but photographs of them. We do not know the source of the documents. The appeared out of nowhere. We have no way to vet the documents, though everything that we can check is wrong... and there is no reason for the Eisenhower Briefing document to exist because Eisenhower would have been involved from the beginning, in 1947. Unless something changes, the only logical conclusion is that the documents are faked... not to mention that Bill Moore suggested to several people he was thinking of creating a Roswell document in an attempt to smoke out other witnesses... Bill Moore was going to create a document, and suddenly, he has just such a document.

Sky70 said...

What keeps the UFO field going on making money for so-called Ufologists? Whistleblowers, as long as they waggle their tongues, the UFO field will love them and write about them, generating interest. There's nothing like the old UFO cases, heck they make the money! This is why conservative Coast to Coast radio has been on the radio this LONG!

Sky70 said...

People STILL talking about the so-called MJ-13 documents; now, this is a shame; people grow up!

James tankersley said...

Thank you for responding but Bill Moore I was told knew about this group before he received those documents and there were hints of this group all over the cover ups that ensued after the Roswell crash but I respect that you have Military experience and know more about this sort of thing than most people who have never been in the military and just wanted you to know that. Didn't Donald Menzels actions about UFOs strike you as odd?

James tankersley said...

Ha ha ha ha ha ha I've been grown up but thanks anyway?

KRandle said...

Bill Moore and Bob Pratt wrote a NOVEL in 1980 that contained many of the elements of MJ-12. He told several people including Stan Friedman (who told me) and Brad Sparks that he was thinking of creating a "Roswell" document with the idea that it might convince some of the reluctant witnesses to give up their testimony. There is no provenance for any of the documents, they are riddled with errors and all those named as being members of MJ-12 were conveniently dead when the documents were released... and why send them to some obscure Hollywood producer (Jaime Shandera) rather than a large media outlet?

William Langman said...

In reference the Del Rio story, and making no real difference to it, years ago a friend told me that he remembered seeing the front page of the local newspaper with side by side pictures. One was a photo of his father and the other was a drawing of a flying saucer. He was a young boy and did not read the paper. His father was a law enforcement officer in either Del Rio or Loredo, I don't recall. My friend has died, so I can't ask him. Based on my friend's age, it would have probably been fifty something. As I wrote, it makes no real difference to the Del Rio story. I just felt like telling someone before I'm gone, too.