Monday, June 09, 2025

AARO, UAP, Wall Street Journal: A Somewhat Personal Response

 

Just last week, I suggested that we were reliving the history of UFO investigations and the attempts by various government agencies including the Air Force to discredit witnesses, dismiss evidence and convince us that there was nothing to the tales of flying saucers. Although not mentioned in the article, one of the best examples of this was the claim that a nonexistent Project Mogul flight was responsible for the debris found by Mack Brazel and taken to Roswell in 1947. And that’s not to mention the 1953 CIA sponsored Robertson Panel that suggested ways of convincing the public that aliens were not visiting Earth.

(Note: This article is much longer than it should be but I thought the topic important. For those unfamiliar with the Robertson Panel, you can read more about it here:

https://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2021/07/coast-to-coast-operation-mockingbird.html

There are other links embedded in the text that will take you down other rabbit holes in this long-term debunking of UFO sightings.

For those interested in the equally ridiculous claim that Project Mogul explained the Roswell crash, might I suggest reading Roswell in the 21st Century which contains a long appendix about Mogul and all the lies told about it. Just click on the link to the left. For those who dislike me sending you off to buy one of my books, you can read more about Mogul here:

https://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2025/02/david-rudiaks-analysis-against-mogul.html

https://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2022/03/the-end-of-project-mogul.html

Or, you can just type Project Mogul into the search engine to the left you’ll find all the other postings I have made on this topic.)

Now, thanks to the Wall Street Journal, we are treated to the latest deception about UFOs. We are told that the DoD spread stories about UFOs and flying saucers to hide the development of the latest weapons systems. We are told that ALL, and I stress that, all significant UFO sightings are mistaken sightings, institutional misunderstanding and Cold War pranks. Really? Cold War pranks? Are we dealing with a professional military or a bunch of college boys engaging in hazing pledges?

This frat boy mentality apparently lasted for decades. According to one of AARO’s investigators, a former Air Force officer, who was unnamed in the article, said that he had been briefed on a secret alien project decades earlier which frightened him. He was warned that if he ever repeated the secret he could be jailed or executed. Really? Executed? This same claim would be repeated to more AARO investigators by other retired military men who were also unnamed. After decades of unnamed sources who had been feeding misinformation to reporters who repeated it without attempts to verify it, I’ll take a pass on more unnamed sources.

Sean Kirkpatrick, one time head of AARO.

According to the story, certain new commanders of the Air Force’s most classified programs, as part of their induction briefings, would be handed a piece of paper with a photo of what looked like a crashed flying saucer. The officers were told that the program they were joining, dubbed Yankee Blue, was part of an effort to reverse-engineer the technology on the craft. They were told never to mention it again. Many never learned it was fake. In the spring of 2023, the defense secretary’s office sent a memo out ordering the practice to stop immediately. 

This tale was printed without comment. No one realized how dumb the claim was. Why would they brief incoming officers on a project that was highly classified and for which they had no need to know? Holding a top-secret clearance does not allow the holder access to everything classified as top secret. The person must also have a “need to know.” This tale strikes me as a poor attempt to dismiss the tales from officers who were exposed to information about UFO events without a good reason but who now are talking. It was just another frat boy prank, but I suspect any commander who engaged in this nonsense would lose his command if caught by his superiors spreading the lie and then threatening execution.

But then, the first sentence in the WSJ article tells us all that we really need to know about their reporting and the reason for the leaks. “U.S. military fabricated evidence of alien technology and allowed rumors to fester to cover up real secret-weapons programs.”

This wasn’t the first time that this dodge had been attempted. We have read about the CIA use of UFOs to disguise secret projects and to their claim that many UFO sightings were of spy planes but the true answer couldn’t be offered because of national security. National security was often used as the dodge so that the difficult questions could be ignored.

This was all part of a “public disclosure that left out the truth behind some of the foundational myths about UFOs: The Pentagon itself sometimes deliberately fanned the flames, in what amounted to the U.S. government targeting its own citizens with disinformation.”

So, the question that is not answered is when did all that disinformation begin. Was it in 1947 when the idea of flying saucers first burst into public conscience or was it something designed after the CIA’s Robertson Panel decided that the public should be deceived about UFOs… not as a cover for classified projects but as a way of diverting interest in the topic? And is this why every chief of Project Blue Book can be described as hostile to the idea of alien visitation with one notable exception?

Probably the most egregious example of this is the claim that the 1967 shut down of a flight of ballistic missiles at Malmstrom AFB was part of an experiment to determine if the electromagnetic pulse from the detonation of an atomic bomb would disable the weapons system. We are now supposed to believe, that at the height of the Cold War, the Air Force decided to attempt to disable the missiles by an outside source on an active flight of ballistic missiles. The artificial EMP, they claim took down the whole flight. Of course, the missiles were brought back on line rather quickly, which overlooks the fact that the EMP pulse would fry the electronics, rending the missiles useless without extensive replacement or repairs, something would take weeks if not months.

But a moment of digression. During one of the hearings, two men from DoD, including Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence & Security Ronald Moultier and Scott Bray, described as the Deputy Director of Naval Intelligence, were providing examples of recent UFO sightings. The hearing was chaired by Congressional Representatives Andre Carson, who by the way, is a Democrat providing proof of the bipartisan nature of the interest in UAP, contrary to WSJ’s allegation this was only Republican interest and this is a digression in the digression.

Scott Bray pointing at a UAP.

During the Q&A, one of the participants asked about Malmstrom event in 1967. Both men said they knew nothing about it, which tells us a couple of things. First, they were either not as fully informed as many of us in the UFO community as they should have been or they were lying. Later, one said he was vaguely aware of the case, which meant the first answer had been a lie. They did know something about it. I believe this was a cover up of that mistake by suggesting there was nothing alien involved and therefore it would outside they investigation.

(Once again, I wrote a detailed analysis of the case in The Government UFO Files. If you are annoyed when I promote a book here, you can read my take on this particular hearing here:

https://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2022/05/coast-to-coast-am-more-on-congressional.html

It provides the details of the exchange between the DoD representatives and the  Congressmen.)

While the WSJ article focuses mainly on the report made by former Air Force missileer Robert Salas and his testimony about the evident, they conveniently omit the series of UFO sightings in the area at that time. There were multiple witnesses to an object hovering near one of the missile control centers. The official story now is that Salas was telling the truth about disabling the missiles, but it was part of that radical and dangerous experiment I mentioned earlier. According to documents in the Project Blue Book files, “Between the hours of 2100 and 0400 MST numerous reports were received by Malmstrom AFB agencies of UFO sightings in the Great Falls, Montana area.”

There were reports of a landing near Belt, Montana that were made by several witnesses including Cascade County sheriff’s deputies. The Project Blue Book files contain lists of a few of the witness statements but all reference to radar reports are missing. In the end, the case, investigated by LTC Lewis Chase, the UFO Officer at Malmstrom, was labeled as unidentified.

Project Blue Book reveals that on March 24, 1967, near the small town of Belt, Montana, a truck driver, Ken Williams, saw a domed object land in a canyon near the road. He was curious enough that he stopped, got out of his truck and began to walk toward the object. The UFO then lifted off, flew further up the canyon and touched down again, now hidden from the highway by a ridge.

Williams, in a handwritten document filed with the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomenon, a NGO, told the whole story of what he had seen that night. In response to their request, on April 7, 1967, Williams wrote:

Gentlemen:

Object was first observed approximately 5 miles southeast of Belt, Montana. I was traveling North on Highway 87 enroute to Great Falls, Montana. Object was approximately 1 mile to my left and appeared to be about 5 or 6 hundred yards [1500 – 1800 feet] altitude. I would estimate its speed to vary from 40 to 50 miles per hour. I am judging this speed by the speed I was traveling as object seemed to be running evenly with me. Its appearance was that of a large doomed [sic] shaped light or that of a giant headlight. Upon climbing up the Belt Hill in my truck, I looked to my left and about ½ mile up a gully. I witnessed the object at about 200 yards [600 feet] in the air in a still position. I stopped my truck and the object dropped slowly to what appeared to me to be within a very few feet from the ground. [Underlining in original]. It was at this time that I felt something or someone was watching me. As a very bright effecting light emerged from the object it momentarily blinded me. This extremely bright light seemed to flare three times. Each time holding its brightness. By the third time the light was so bright [underlining in original] that it was nearly impossible to look directly at it. It was at this time that I drove my truck onto the top of the hill which was about another ½ mile. I stopped a car and asked the people [Don Knotts of Great Falls] if they would stop at a station at the foot of the hill and call the Highway Patrol. I went back down the hill and viewed the object for several more minutes. It was while watching it the second time that it rose and disappeared like a bolt of lightning. I went back to the top of the hill where my truck was parked and just as the Highway Patrolmen [sic] Bud Nader, arrived the object appeared once again. About 2 miles away and traveling in a Northeast direction, whereas it stopped once again and appeared to drop to the ground [Underlining in the original.]. There are several deep gullys [sic] in the area where it appeared to drop out of sight. This was my last sighting of the object.

The Project Blue Book file on this case contains what was known as a Project Record Card, which was a 4 x 6 card that outlined the details of the case. While the case is labeled as “unidentified,” it also noted that there was “(1 witness),” which they believed to be so important that it was underlined. But that isn’t true and other documents in the Blue Book files prove it.

According to a letter written by LTC Lewis D. Chase, and addressed to Dr. Edward Condon at the University of Colorado, there was, at least, one other witness. According to Chase, “Mr. Nader [sent by the Highway Patrol] reported that upon reaching the scene he observed an unusual light emanating from the area that the truck driver, Mr. Williams, claimed the object had landed a second time.”

The Newspaper Accounts

The Great Falls Leader carried a series of articles about the UFO sightings in the area at the time. Interestingly, some of what was printed in the newspaper was not found in the Blue Book files. Those who conducted the military investigation should have been aware of these other sightings, but there is no mention of them. It seems that, to the Air Force anyway, those sightings never happened.

Ron Rice, a staff writer on the newspaper said that there had been UFO sightings all over the state that day. He wrote, “Before midnight it was the Belt area; after 3 this morning, Malmstrom Air Force Base where one was picked up on the bottom of a Federal Aviation Agency radar scope which tracked it for a time before it disappeared in the direction of the Belt Mountains.”

There were visual sightings as well. Airman Second Class (A2C) Richard Moore, a communicator-plotter said that he had seen something about five or ten miles from the base at 3:30 a.m. Airman Third Class (A3C) said that he had seen an object that he said was a bright light with orange lights on the bottom. This, according to Moore, was close to the ground and it was what the FAA radar had detected.

Moore also said that a sabotage alert team had located another object about 4:40 a.m. directly over Malmstrom. Moore said that he saw it as well, but it was more a point of light moving across the sky than anything else. He said it wasn’t a satellite because it was zigzagging.

Another airman, Warren Mahoney, said that Moore had told him about the UFO at 3:10 a.m. and that at 3:42 he had received a call from the FAA that there was an object on their radar northwest of the base providing corroboration for the sightings. Three minutes later it had turned, flying toward the southeast. At 4:26 a.m. it disappeared from the FAA radar.

Rice also mentioned that there had been a search of the canyon where Williams and Nager saw the UFO that appeared to be landing and they found some evidence, though it isn’t clear exactly what that evidence was. Sheriff’s deputies Keith Wolverton, Jim Cinker and Harold Martin, searched the ground for about two and a half hours and discovered some freshly broken twigs on bushes and branches of the trees around the alleged landing site. They thought it might have been cattle, but there were no cattle in the area at the time of the sighting. Martin was also reported as saying, “Some of the trees are 25 feet high, and had limbs broken from them, and some bushes below them were broken. All were fresh breaks.”

According to the Great Falls Tribune, Trudy Fender provided a rough drawing of an object she had seen with a steady white light on one end, a blinking white light on the other and a red light in the center. She had been waiting for her ride on March 26. The sighting isn’t important because of the object, but the fact that she saw something and drew make an illustration of it. That refuted a theory that there had been no UFO sightings in Montana other than Williams sighting two days earlier.

The Project Blue Book file

With all that was going on that night, with the news media alerted and with local law enforcement involved, there wasn’t much that the Air Force could do other than respond. Air Force regulations in affect at the time required it. The Blue Book file, in a teletype message that was unclassified revealed, “Between hours of 2100 and 0400 MST numerous reports were received by Malmstrom AFB agencies of UFO sightings in the Great Falls, Montana area.”

The message noted that “Reports of a UFO landing near Belt, Montana were received from several sources including deputies of Cascade County Sheriff’s Office. Investigation is being conducted by LTC Lewis Chase… The alleged landing site is under surveillance. However, daylight is required for further search.”

The investigation was apparently completed several days later and on April 8, 1967, LTC Chase wrote a report that he sent on to Dr. Edward Condon at the University of Colorado who was leading the Air Force sponsored “scientific” investigation into UFOs. After setting the scene, Lewis wrote:

Numerous reports were being received by the dispatcher at Base Operations, plus questions from the public. At 2205 [10:05 p.m.], Lt. Col. Lewis D. Chase, Base UFO Investigating Officer, was notified by the Command Post of a reported landing. Sequence of events following notification were as follows:

2215 – Check was made with Base Operations as to aircraft movement in the area. An outbound transient aircraft departed Great Falls enroute to Glasgow, Montana. Departure time was 2109 [9:09 p.m.]. All other aircraft were accounted for.

2230 – Discussion with the Sheriff of Cascade County revealed that he had dispatched additional deputies to the area. Requested that he notify me of any significant findings. While talking to the sheriff, he contacted one of his mobile units. The man reporting said that they were at the scene and that there was no activity at the time. Requested the sheriff to forward any subsequent developments.

2330 – I called the Sheriff of Cascade County for a status report. He put one of his deputies on the line (Ziener?) who had been at the scene and had interviewed the truck driver and highway patrolman. While on the phone, Sheriff Martin from Belt, Montana, called in from the scene. He discussed the possibility of manpower assistance from Malmstrom and/or helicopter support. Informed him that daylight would be the first possible helicopter support and that I would discuss the other manpower request with Colonel Klibbe.

2345 – Discussion with Colonel Klibbe. He suggested that I go out and evaluate the situation and make my recommendations from there.

0030 – Departed the base in radio equipped station wagon accompanied by Major John Grasser of the Helicopter Section, for an evaluation of the terrain for any possible helicopter survey at daylight, a driver, and the alert photographer.

0100 – Arrived at the scene. Was met by Sheriff Martin, who repeated the previous reports. He had been on the scene continuously. A study of the terrain revealed the hopelessness of any ground survey at night. A tentative plan was agreed upon – the sheriff’s office to conduct a ground search of the reported landing area on the morning of 25 March 1967, while concurrently a helicopter survey of the area would be performed by Malmstrom. (It had been reported by Major Grasser that a helicopter training flight was scheduled for 0730 Saturday morning. This procedure was later approved by 15th AF, provided no landing was made). Sightseers were in the area due to radio publicity and Martin reported some had gone on the ridges before he could stop them.

0215 – Reported to Colonel Klibbe the tentative plan agreed upon with Sheriff Martin. He approved.

0230 to 0340 – Numerous sightings reported.

0350 – Discussed the make-up of a message with Captain Bradshaw, Wing Command Post, IAW [In Accordance With] AFR [Air Force Regulation] 80-17, to notify concerned agencies, including CSAF [Chief of Staff, Air Force], of numerous sightings, plus the reported landing under investigation. Was concerned with resulting publicity and the need to notify other agencies prior to press releases. Message will merely state reported landing, that it is under investigation, that daylight hours are required to complete investigation, and that a subsequent report will be submitted. Preliminary message dispatched.

0800 – Sheriff’s ground search and Malmstrom aerial survey completed with negative results. Follow-up messages dispatched to interested agencies (AFR 80-17) stating negative results of the investigation.

The last part of the report confirmed that Chase had conducted it and provided contact information for him. He later, in a teletype message reported, again, that there had been negative results but this does show that AARO and the WSJ omitted this information from their reports because it would conflict with their EMP effect theory.

All mention of the radar reports is missing from the official files, as are the reports from Air Force personnel. Even if Chase was uninterested in most of the civilian sightings, he should have interviewed airmen who saw something, if for no other reason than to explain those sightings. This is a flaw in that investigation.

The radar sightings, with the corroborative visual reports would seem to be a very important part of the case. This would make it a stronger case, but Chase didn’t follow up on it. He didn’t explore the radar sightings, he did not request information from the FAA, and he didn’t interview any of the radar operators. The newspaper files suggest that the information had been reported the next day. Chase should have known about it given that it already knew of the sightings.

There might have been something else operating here, and that was the mission of Malmstrom AFB. It was a minuteman missile base, and just days before, an entire flight of missiles had suddenly fallen into a “No-Go” situation which meant that they had been deactivated. This was an issue that was a matter of national security and that might explain the reason the Belt, Montana sighting was so poorly investigated.

Echo Flight

Years later, Robert Salas and Jim Klotz were the first to tell the story of Echo Flight, originally in an online article at cufon.org and later in their book, Faded Giant. Robert Hastings, in his UFOs and Nukes, provided additional information. The story they told started early on the morning of March 16, 1967, when two missile maintenance teams who had been working on two of the flight’s widely scattered launch facilities said they had seen strange lights in the sky near where they were located. A mobile security team confirmed this, saying they had seen the lights as well. All of this was told to Colonel Don Crawford by Captain Eric Carlson and 1st Lieutenant Walt Figel as Crawford came on duty, at least and according to what Salas had been told during his 1996 taped interview with Figel. Hastings had been told virtually the same things during his own interviews with Figel, confirming that Salas had reported the information accurately.

About 8:30 a.m., that same morning, as both Carlson and Figel were performing routine checks, the flight’s missiles began to drop off line. Within seconds, though Figel would later suggest it was minutes, all ten missiles were inoperable. In the event of war, they could not have launched. This was a major national security issue and a point that would become important later.

Hastings wrote, “Immediately after the malfunctions at Echo, the launch officers ordered two separate Security Alert Teams to drive to each of the launch facilities where the UFOs had been sighted. Nevertheless, the maintenance and security personnel at each site reported seeing UFOs hovering near the missile silos.”

He added, “…some months after my book came out, in July 2008, I interviewed Figel on tape. He said one of the two SAT teams reported seeing the UFO over one of the silos. In 1996, he told Salas that both teams had seen it. A faded memory, it seems…”

But the story wasn’t quite so mundane, as Hastings learned during his interviews with Figel. When Hastings talked to Figel, a retired Air Force Colonel on October 20, 2008, he was told that one of the guards had suggested the UFO had shut down the missiles. Figel thought the guard was joking. He told Hastings, “I was thinking he was yanking my chain more than anything else.”

Hastings asked, “He seemed to be serious to you?”

And Figel responded, “He seemed to be serious but I wasn’t taking him seriously.”

Hastings wanted to know what the man had seen and Figel said that it was just a large, round object that was directly over the launch facility.”

To clarify the situation Hastings and Figel discussed the security procedures. Figel said, “[When] the missiles dropped off alert, I started calling the maintenance people out there on the radio… [I asked] ‘What’s going on?’ … And the guy says, ‘We got a Channel 9 No-Go. It must be a UFO hovering over the site.”

Figel, of course, didn’t believe him. He said that one of the Strike Teams, they had dispatched two, but one of them thought they had seen something over the site. They told Figel that a large object was hovering there.

All of this, of course, suggests that UFOs were somehow involved with the sudden shut down of the missile systems. Although the government officials rejected the idea, there is a great deal of eyewitness testimony for the UFO sightings in the area.

The maintenance teams were dispatched and once they had located the problem, they were able to bring the missiles back on line, but the process was not simple and required hours for each missile. There was an extensive investigation that involved not only the Air Force but also the contractors who had designed and built the missiles.

According to the 341st Strategic Missile Wing Unit History, recovered through Freedom of Information:

On 16 March 1967 at 0845, all sites in Echo (E) Flight, Malmstrom AFB, shutdown with No-Go indication of Channels 9 and 12 on Voice Reporting Signal Assemble (VRSA). All LF’s in E Flight lost strategic alert nearly simultaneously. No other Wing I configuration lost strategic alert at that time.

Guidance & Control channel 50 dump data was collected from E-7 facility and E-3 Facility and all 10 sites were then returned to strategic alert without any LF equipment replacement. All 10 sites were reported to have been subject to a normal controlled shutdown…

The only possible means that could be identified by the team involved a situation in which a couple self test commands occurred along with a partial reset within the coupler. This could feasible cause a VRSA 9 and 12 indication. This was also quite remote for all 10 couplers would have to have been partially reset in the same manner…

In the researching of other possibilities, weather was ruled out as a contributing factor in the incident.

A check with Communications maintenance verified that there was no unusual activity with EWO-1 or EWO-2 at the time of the incident.

All of which, in the short term, did not explain why the missiles all went off line at virtually the same time. In a very technical aspect of the Unit History, it explains that a “30 micro sec Pulse… was placed on the Self Test Command (STC) line… Seven out of 10 separate applications of a single pulse would cause the system to shut down with a Channel 9 & 12 No-Go.”

Or according to the Blue Book files, a randomly introduced electronic pulse which might be considered an EMP, which shouldn’t have affected the missile systems, had shut them down. The point of insertion was apparently the Launch Control Facility, but all those areas should have been shielded from just such an occurrence and that includes an EMP.

The information about the Echo Flight was, quite naturally, communicated to the Condon Committee, and Dr. Roy Craig responded. Craig was working on the government contract for the Air Force when he made his notes on his meeting with LTC Chase at Malmstrom. Craig’s notes on the meeting said:

After Colonel Chase and I exchanged pleasantries in his office, I asked him about the Echo incident. The Colonel caught his breath, and expressed surprise that I knew of it. ‘I can’t talk about that’… If I needed to know the cause of this incident, I could arrange through official channels, to see their report after the completion of the investigation… Although local newspapers carried stories of UFO sightings which would coincide in time with Echo, Colonel Chase had assured me that the incident had not involved a UFO… I accepted the information as factual and turned review of Major Schraff’s report (on the Echo incident) over to Bob Low [Dr. Robert Low, also a member of the Condon Committee], who had received security clearance to read secret information related to the UFO study… Low, in turn, had to interface with his Air Force Liaison in Washington, Col. Hippler [Lieutenant Colonel Robert Hippler] …. [Low wrote to Craig] ‘Roy, I called Hippler and he said he would try to get this, but he suspects it’s going to be classified too high for us to look at. Says he thinks interference by pulses from nuclear explosions is probably involved.

So, it seems that a cause had been found, or rather it seemed to have been found, but the ultimate source of the pulse was not identified. Hippler, speculating about the source of the pulse came up with an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) from a nonexistent atomic blast. That the pulse shut down all the missiles made it a national security issue, which changed the level of the classification.

(To digress one more time, there had been communication between Hippler and Low before the contracts were signed to begin the investigation. Hippler told Low what the Air Force wanted and Low responded in the positive. If you wish to dive into that rabbit hole, you can read more about it here:

https://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2007/03/hippler-letter.html

And, of course, I have published additional information on this. Just type Hippler Letter into the search engine at the right.)

Oddly, in the 341st SMW Unit History, it noted, “Rumors of Unidentified Objects (UFO) around the area of Echo Flight during the time of the fault were disproven. A Mobile Strike Team, which had checked all November Flight’s LFs [Launch Facilities] on the morning of 16 March 67, were questioned and stated that no unusual activity or sightings were observed.”

But that doesn’t seem to be quite accurate. Hastings interviewed James Ortyl who had been assigned as an Air Policeman at Malmstrom. Ortyl said:

I was an Airman 2nd Class [A2C] at the time. We were working the day-shift at Kilo Flight in March of 1967… It was mid-morning and three or four Air Policemen were gathered in the launch control facility dispatch office. Airman Robert Pounders and I were facing the windows looking out to the yard and parking lot. The others were facing us. As we were conversing, I witnessed a shimmering, reddish-orange object clear the main gate and in a sweeping motion pass quickly and silently pass by the windows. It seemed to be within 30 years of the building. Stunned, I looked at Pounders and asked, “Did you see that?!” He acknowledged that he had.

To be fair, Ortyl didn’t know the exact date, but said that in was near his birthday of March 17th. But then there is Craig’s interview with Chase which also moves in the direction of UFO sightings on the proper date. Craig’s notes indicate that he had the names of some of those involved with the UFO sightings at the time of Echo’s shut down, but he never contacted any of them.

Craig also had the name of Dan Renualdi who, in March 1967, was a member of the Site Activation Task Force (SATAF). He said that he had been within a few feet of an object. There was also a sergeant with the Air Force Technical Evaluation Team who said he had seen a flying saucer. There is no record of Craig talking to either of these men, nor are there any reports in the Project Blue Book files to suggest that the sightings had been reported through official channels. That was a violation of the regulations in force at the time, although it could be argued there were contradictory regulations.

All this demonstrates is that there was another reported UFO around the time that Echo Flight had gone down, contrary to what the Unit History said. It does not prove that the UFOs had anything to do with the anomalous pulse.

There is another aspect to this. Quite naturally, the Air Force wanted to know what had happened. The man who conducted the investigation for Boeing, the Defense Contractor for the missile systems was Robert Kaminski. In a letter dated February 1, 1997 to Jim Klotz, he wrote:

At the time of the incident, I was an engineer in the MIP/CNP (Material Improvement Project/Controlled Numbered Problem) group…. The group was contacted by the Air Force so that Boeing could respond to specific Air Force Minuteman Missiles problems that occurred in the field…

I was handed the E-Flight CNP assignment when it arrived by the group supervisor. As the internal Boeing project engineer I arranged meetings necessary with management and technical personnel required to determine a course of action to be taken, in exploring why 10 missiles had suddenly fallen from alert status – green – to red, with no explanation for it. This was an unusual request and we had no prior similar incident or experience to this kind of anomaly….

Since this was a field site peculiar incident, a determination was made to send out an investigative team to survey the LCF and the LFs to determine what failures or related incidents could be found to explain the cause…. After a week in the field the team returned and pooled their data. At the outset the team quickly noticed a lack of anything that would come close to explain why the event occurred. There were no significant failures, engineering data or findings that would come close to explain how ten missiles were knocked off alert. This indeed turned out to be a rare event and not encountered before. The use of backup power systems and other technical system circuit operational redundancy strongly suggests that this kind of event is virtually impossible once the system was up and running and on line with other LCF’s and LF’s interconnectivity….

The team met with me to report their findings and it was decided that the final report would have nothing significant in it to explain what happened at E-Flight. In other words there was no technical explanation that could explain the event… Meanwhile I was contacted by our representative… (Don Peterson) and told by him that the incident was reported as being a UFO event – That a UFO was seen by some Airmen over the LCF at the time E-Flight when down.

Subsequently, we were notified a few days later, that a stop work order was on the way from OOAMA to stop any further effort on this project. We stopped. We were also told that we were not to submit the final engineering report. This was most unusual since all of our work required review by the customer and the submittal of a final Engineering report to OOAMA…

However, as I recall nothing explained this anomaly at E-Flight.

I’ll step in here again to note that if an EMP was responsible for the missiles going off line, there were have been evidence of that when the engineers checked. The fried circuits would have been a clue, but according to this, they found no reason for the failure.

Hastings, in a review of the material in 2013, wrote, “Actually, the large round object sighted by the missile guard, and reported to launch officer Lt. Walter Figel, had been hovering over one of the Echo missile silos, not the launch control facility itself. Nevertheless, Boeing engineer Kaminski’s revealing testimony essentially confirms Figel’s account of a UFO presence during the incident.”

Oscar Flight

In March 1967, Robert Salas was a Deputy Missile Combat Crew Commander (DMCCC) at Malmstrom AFB. When he first told his tale in 1995, he had thought he had been assigned to Echo Flight, later he thought it might have been November Flight, but once he located his former commander, Fred Meiwald, he learned it was Oscar Flight. The story he told, in 1995, was essentially the same as that about Echo Flight, or in other words, that all ten missiles had gone off line within seconds of each other.

According to what Salas would report, while he was sixty feet underground in the capsule, he received a call from an NCO in the Launch Control Facility telling him that they had seen some UFOs nearby. They were just lights and they just weren’t sure what they might be. But not long after that, the NCO reported that the object, later described as a red glow that was saucer shaped, was now over the gate. Before the NCO completed the report, he said that one of the men had been injured, apparently by the UFO. He hung up to go assist.

Salas said that he woke the commander and began to tell him about the UFO sightings. Within seconds, their missiles began to go off line. Later, there would be some question as to how many of the 10 missiles they lost. It might have been part of them or it might have been all of them. In May 2013 Salas told me he had believed it was all of them but his commander thought it was only five or six. In his first reports, Salas just split the difference.

In fact, Salas would say that once he mentioned what was happening outside, his commander, Meiwald said that he had heard about a similar event the week before. Meiwald said that there had been an intrusion alarm that went off and that a two-man security team had been ordered to respond. As the team approached the site, they saw a UFO hovering over it. They raced back to the Launch Control Facility, shaken by what they had seen.

In a letter to Salas dated October 1, 1996, Meiwald wrote, “…Topside security notified us the mobile team had reported observing the “UFO” while responding… to the situation at an outlying LF…”

Hastings interviewed Meiwald in 2011 about the events at Oscar Flight. Meiwald said:

…essentially, I was resting—whether or not I was sound sleep I don’t recall—but I know Bob got me up because we had unusual indications on the consol [sic], plus we’d had a security violation and, uh, the response team that [inaudible] had gone out to investigate at one of the LFs. They reported unusual activity over there and—by that time I was up—and saw consol indications. [I] also directed that the strike team return to the LCF while maintaining radio contact on the way back. As they came back we did lose radio contact for a short period of time, however, the flight [security] leader—the person who was in charge at the time—recognized the team as it was approaching the LCF and opened the gate so that his troops could get in.

He also confirmed that those above ground had seen something in the sky. Meiwald didn’t remember much about that but did confirm they had seen something in the sky. Hastings asked him about the Flight Security Crew saying that it was a bright red oval-shaped object but Meiwald said that he could only remember something about a bright object, confirming, at least, the UFO sighting.

Later, Meiwald said that he and Salas had been called in for a debriefing by the AFOSI. He confirmed that they had been asked to sign nondisclosure statements, but to him that was not a big deal. That sort of thing apparently happened occasionally. At the Citizen Hearing in May 2013, Salas told me, as well as others, that they had been required to sign the nondisclosure statements. “It was then designated a highly classified incident,” according to Salas.

The trouble at Oscar Flight was also reported by 1st Lieutenant Robert C. Jamison, who was Minuteman ICBM targeting officer at Malmstrom in March 1967. According to what he told Hastings and reported in UFOs and Nukes, he, Jamison, said had been tasked to assist in the restart of “an entire flight of ten Minuteman ICBMs which had simultaneously and inexplicably shut down immediately after a UFO was sighted in the vicinity…”

More importantly, Jamison said that before he was sent into the field, he and his team were told to remain at Malmstrom until all UFO activity had ended, and then they received a “special briefing.” They were told to report any UFO they saw in the area. If they saw something they were at the missile silo, they were to enter the personnel hatch and wait until the UFO left. The Air Police guards, who were to accompany the team, would remain outside to watch the UFO.

While he was in a hangar waiting to go into the field, Jamison overheard a two-way radio conversation about a UFO on the ground. This is a clear reference to the Belt sighting and dates Jamison’s recollections to March 24. Jamison said that one of the highest-ranking officers on the base was on the scene of the landing. According to the newspaper accounts and the Blue Book files, this was Colonel Fred Klibbe.

The special briefing apparently was not just a one-time affair. He said that for two weeks after the missile shut down, his team received a UFO briefing prior to heading into the field. This is something that would be repeated in other, similar events at other Air Force bases.

This seemed to be a repeat of the situation that happened just days earlier. Salas was convinced, later, that this happened on March 24, which was the date of the Belt, Montana sightings.

But unlike the Echo Flight incident, there was no official record of this event. The Unit History doesn’t mention it, and there is no documentation for it. It is as if it never happened and for that reason, there are some who think that this is a hoax. The only reason for the mention of UFOs in Blue Book files is that the news media was already involved with the Belt sightings and they couldn’t be ignored. Had that not happened, then neither the Echo Flight nor the Oscar Flight events would have leaked into the public arena.

I will note here that if what Salas said was true, and the latest AARO confirms what he said, they just provide a non-alien reason for it. AARO’s investigation saying that Salas witnessed part of the experiment, then two missile flights were shut down, not just one. That is, twenty missiles, part of the MAD strategy were taken off line by a US experiment that was conducted during a series of UFO sightings, made by civilians, law enforcement and military personnel. These sightings were corroborated by FAA radars but apparently the AARO investigative team never bothered to verify this information. They boiled it down to a single witness and then provided what seemed to be a plausible explanation counting on the media failing to ask the legitimate follow up questions about the timing. WSJ seemed to ignore the idiocy of conducting such an experiment on part of our missile defense shield. Rather than be outraged by the risk of doing that, they all just nodded and said, “Got it.”

The WSJ concedes there was a cover up, but it wasn’t of an alien event but of a ridiculous experiment to use an EMP to shut down an active missile flight rather than conduct the experiment away from the Air Force base where no harm could be done. They fail to mention the UFO sightings in the area at the time of the experiment or that the EMP is nearly impossible to reverse, rending the missiles useless.

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Adam Wykes said...

Interesting to note, as well, that the documents which WSJ and Kirkpatrick muster to explain what was happening are actually anachronistic! They detail work that began in 1971.

Spartacus01 said...

The Wall Street Journal article is garbage. Yes, it is true that the Pentagon and the Air Force have deliberately spread outlandish UFO stories. But they did not do it to cover up the existence of secret military aircraft like the article claims; they did it to flood the UFO field with absurd stories in order to drown out the credible ones. The goal is to make sure everything gets lumped together, so the public can no longer tell what is real and what is fake.

Suppose, just for the sake of argument, that the Roswell incident was the only actual crash of an alien craft that ever happened. Imagine that the U.S. military-industrial complex tried to reverse-engineer the technology recovered from the Roswell craft, but failed because the technology was so advanced they simply could not figure out how it worked. If that were true — if Roswell was the only genuine UFO crash and they were not able to successfully reverse-engineer the technology so far — then it would make sense, from a military intelligence standpoint, to generate — or at least to encourage the spread of — dozens of bogus UFO crash reports, as well as to spread the idea that the reverse-engineering of the alien technology acquired through these multiple crashes was successful and led to the development of technologies like stealth aircraft, fiber optics, integrated circuits, and so on. By surrounding Roswell with many false retrieval stories and circulating the idea that the reverse-engineering was successful, it becomes almost impossible for people to separate truth from fiction. And once the public realizes that 99.9% of all these crash retrieval reports are false and that there is no evidence of successful reverse-engineering of alien technology, they will likely assume that Roswell was just another hoax too.

The Paul Bennewitz case can also be understood this way. People often point to it as evidence that the Air Force and the military deliberately spread UFO stories to cover up secret projects, but once you start digging deeper, it becomes clear that this explanation does not hold up. This version of the Bennewitz story — that he was fed false alien stories because he had accidentally stumbled upon secret military projects — comes straight from Richard Doty, who is the last person anyone should trust when it comes to the Bennewitz case.

All UFO researchers who knew Bennewitz personally at the time have always pushed back against Doty’s version of the story. For example, Christian Lambright — who knew Bennewitz personally and was a friend of his — wrote an entire book that completely destroys Doty’s claims. He suggests that the alien signals Bennewitz thought he was picking up, the wild stories about the Dulce underground alien base and the Dulce underground war, the rumors about secret treaties established by the government with the aliens, and so on, were not given to Bennewitz to distract him from secret military projects; they were given to him because he had seen, photographed, and filmed real UFOs flying over the Manzano Weapons Storage Area in 1979. When he started speaking openly about what he had witnessed, the Air Force decided that the best course of action would be to discredit him, and the best way to do that was to push him into spreading more and more outrageous material, until he appeared mentally unstable and no one would take him seriously anymore. That way, even his original, credible sightings over a nuclear facility would be dismissed by association.

So again, the real disinformation campaign is not about hiding classified military technology; it is about hiding the truth about UFOs. By saturating the topic with garbage, they ensure that no one can tell which cases deserve serious attention and which ones are nonsense. And once the nonsense is exposed, everything — including the potentially real events — gets thrown out with it.

Scotland said...

Sorry, Kevin, but I have to disagree with you here. I do think that the US military has used the UFO topic for deception. One of the key reasons UFOs are so useful for disinformation is their inherent ambiguity. By definition, a UFO is something unidentified, making it a convenient placeholder for unusual sightings that cannot or should not be easily explained, like a classified US vehicle. This vagueness creates fertile ground for manipulation. Governments have exploited this uncertainty to obscure the testing of classified technologies, such as high-altitude surveillance aircraft or experimental drones.

Moreover, the cultural stigma surrounding UFOs has made it easy to discredit or marginalize credible witnesses, who might actually see classified US vehicles, but they mistaken it for so call UFOs. Those who report sightings are frequently labeled as conspiracy theorists or eccentrics, which effectively suppresses serious inquiry. This social mechanism serves the dual purpose of protecting classified projects and deterring further investigation.

In psychological operations, the UFO narrative has been weaponized to sow confusion or distract populations. Both the United States and the Soviet Union explored the potential of using “alien” phenomena to influence public perception or cover up espionage activities. A notable example is the Paul Bennewitz case in the 1980s, where the U.S. Air Force reportedly fed a civilian false information about alien activity to divert attention from sensitive military operations in New Mexico.

In essence, UFOs represent the perfect vessel for disinformation: they are mysterious, captivating, and difficult to verify. This combination makes them ideal for hiding what governments want kept secret and for controlling the conversation around what the public believes they’ve seen.

It’s a very easy tool to use to distract people, even military personnel. And the fact that some people can’t fathom that the government is using people’s belief systems, in this case UFOs to deceive them, but yet claim that aliens come down and visit us, shows you how effective of a tool it can be used to deceive people.

David Rudiak said...

Kevin naively wrote:
"Probably the most egregious example of this is the claim that the 1967 shut down of a flight of ballistic missiles at Malmstrom AFB was part of an experiment to determine if the electromagnetic pulse from the detonation of an atomic bomb would disable the weapons system. We are now supposed to believe, that at the height of the Cold War, the Air Force decided to attempt to disable the missiles by an outside source on an active flight of ballistic missiles. The artificial EMP, they claim took down the whole flight. Of course, the missiles were brought back on line rather quickly, which overlooks the fact that the EMP pulse would fry the electronics, rending the missiles useless without extensive replacement or repairs, something would take weeks if not months."

Why all the disbelief? Why wouldn't we have had 60 years ago an insanely powerful non-nuclear EMP generator (or maybe a stealth nuke) capable of causing a disabling EMP pulse on heavily shielded ICBM control cables, but not so disabling that it wouldn't totally fry the circuitry, also capable of penetrating high security and mimicking a UFO incursion, and then trying it out on part of our nuclear deterrent, taking it off-line for days?

Or how about the current Wikipedia version:

"Science writer Mick West wrote that the military investigated at the time and found no connection to any UFO sighting, but the story has remained in UFO culture largely due to the promotional efforts of Salas. Skeptical investigators maintain they have found numerous issues with Robert Salas’s account.

"According to Brian Dunning, Salas memories differ from records of the 341st Strategic Missile Wing, which show that nobody had reported anything [un]usual on the night he claims UFOs were seen. Dunning wrote that on March 16, Echo Flight missiles were restarted following a commonplace commercial power failure, "and eight days later, some people reported a UFO to the newspapers in a town 50km away. There is no rational reason to conclude one thing had anything to do with the other". Dunning speculated that Salas was "honestly mistaken in piecing together certain memories, and I also believe he's become invested in his version of the recollection and has erred on the side of confirmation bias".[15]...In 2008, Salas appeared on CNN along with skeptic Michael Shermer. When asked if he believed Salas was lying, Shermer replied "No, not at all. I think we're not always reliable observers. It's hard to say. We misunderstand, honestly misunderstand or misperceive things. I think before we say something is out of this world, let's first make sure that it's not in it. And just because we can't explain something doesn't mean it's, you know, extraterrestrial."[16]

"Skeptic Robert Sheaffer argued the UFO sighted was likely Mars, writing: "So, in the case of Oscar Flight, a UFO was sighted [very likely Mars], but no missiles went offline. In the case of Echo Flight, missiles did go offline due to an electronic glitch, but UFOs had nothing to do with it. I can't un-complicate it any more than that."


So let's see. Eyewitness Robert Salas is a dummy, a UFO promotor, a misperceiver, and guilty of memory conflation and confirmation bias. No other witnesses are mentioned, so just one guy is the cause of it all. Salas was 60 feet underground, so who saw "Mars" and confused it with a UFO? Nothing happened or maybe some missiles did go down but due to "an electronic glitch" or "commercial power failure".

Like all skeptical explanations, they are all simultaneously true.

And that's the problem with true-blue, fanatical UFO believers. They just won't won't accept perfectly plausible conventional explanations.

David Rudiak said...

Robert Salas has posted a response to the absurd WSJ debunking article. At the end he writes, "I am sending this rebuttal to the Wall Street Journal and ask that they publish it and respond to the rebuttal statements as listed above." Also says he and others are willing to testify under oath.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/10ss62AXbWjdC05E_wOC3iBe1GCDEyp0x/edit?filetype=msword&pli=1

map any slide said...

Thank you for stating what we are thinking! This response deserves applause! On Friday, skeptic Jason Colavito wrote a short blog post about the Wall Street Journal's article that reported Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick's conclusions.

https://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/wall-street-journal-reveals-pentagon-faked-ufo-evidence-misled-top-officers

Sigh. This is upsetting. Now we are told about hazing in The Air Force as if that branch needed another scandal! Talking about the incidents at missile facilities is tricky because the personnel in the underground bunkers could not have seen anything flying above the base when they noticed the missiles go offline, and the guards topside could not have noticed the missiles go offline when they witnessed something fly above the base unless they synchronized their watches to record the exact time of any incidents. In 2014, Robert Sheaffer actually suggested that the planet Mars was responsible for the sightings of something red and round shining above Montana in 1967.

https://badufos.blogspot.com/2014/01/discovery-canadas-close-encounters-mars.html

Robert Sheaffer mentioned you by name, Kevin. Did you respond in 2014?

Earlier in this year, Stephen Bassett spoke about when he went to a meeting in the office of South Carolina's Representative Nancy Mace with Robert Salas, supposedly held to prepare another planned congressional hearing with witnesses of nuclear shutdown incidents.

https://www.theothersideofmidnight.com/2025-02-02-trump-says-drones-are-really-ours/

Would be a big deal if those witnesses could tell their stories on the congressional record, but it still has not happened yet. Not sure if it will ever happen knowing what we now know about Representative Nancy Mace shouting slurs in the Capitol. In previous years, Robert Salas held events in Washington, D.C. to raise awareness concerning UFOs and nuclear weapons, but the press coverage was unkind and did not treat this topic seriously.

What exactly is an "exotic electromagnetic pulse generator"? One way to make an artificial E.M.P. without a nuclear explosion could be to use a microwave powered by a large series of capacitors to release a blast of energy all at once.

The idea of faking encounters with technologically superior visitors from other worlds to conceal secret wonder weapons for fighting the Cold War makes no sense to me. The idea itself, whether it is presented as fact or fiction, should have an effect on the mind similar to the Overview Effect astronauts describe making the wars human nations fight seem insignificant in on a cosmic scale, not useful for perpetuating constant war on Earth. Does anybody here agree?

On Tuesday, Jason Colavito wrote another post on the reaction to the article.

https://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/lue-elizondo-attacks-wall-street-journal-over-disingenuous-ufo-report

Sigh. We should know better than to trust the Wall Street Journal, a biased newspaper owned by Dow Jones and Company owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation. Strangely, Jason has criticized Rupert Murdoch's other outlets on television including Fox News in the past, but agrees with the paper.

Nobody should be annoyed by suggesting to go buy books you wrote because one purpose of Blogger is to enable authors to promote the books they wrote.

That is all I can think of to say here and now. Sorry if this is too long. Thanks! Goodbye for now.

KRandle said...

Scotland -

Of course the military used UFOs as a deception, but here, they're trying to write off cases where there is no military deception.

Spartacus01 said...

Scotland

As someone who has studied the Paul Bennewitz case in detail, I can tell you with confidence that you have fallen for Richard Doty’s lies. Doty was the one who first claimed that Bennewitz was fed false information about UFOs because he had accidentally stumbled upon classified military projects. That version of the story comes directly from him, and he is far from being a reliable source about anything. The only reason Greg Bishop and Mark Pilkington chose to repeat Doty's version of the case in their books is because it fits a particular narrative — that the military spreads fake UFO stories as a smokescreen to protect classified projects, and that all UFOs are simply secret military aircraft.

This is how things actually unfolded:

1. In December 1979, Bennewitz saw, photographed, and filmed real UFOs flying over the Manzano Weapons Storage Area, which was located east of Kirtland Air Force Base. As soon as he documented the presence of these objects, he reported his findings to the Air Force personnel working at Kirtland.
2. Once the Air Force became aware of what Bennewitz had observed, they decided to launch a disinformation campaign against him. Not because he had stumbled upon a classified military project being carried out at Kirtland — as Doty later claimed — but because he had captured evidence of real UFOs. Since UFO sightings over nuclear installations were regarded as a serious national security concern, the goal became to discredit him entirely. To do that, they started feeding him false, exaggerated, and misleading information, hoping that he would spread it as widely as possible. The intention was to make Bennewitz appear unreliable and mentally unstable in the eyes of the media and the more rational segments of the UFO research community. In this way, people would either completely forget or dismiss the authentic UFO sightings he had witnessed in December 1979.
3. Not long after contacting the Air Force, Bennewitz started picking up what he thought were alien signals and managed to decode some of them. The signals contained messages that conveyed claims such as “the number of our crashed saucers is eight,” “our race is dying on home planet,” and “women of Earth are needed.” Convinced that these transmissions were authentic, Bennewitz came to believe that an alien presence was operating near the base and attempting to contact him directly. The thing is, those signals were actually created and sent by the Air Force as part of their operation. That was the real start of the disinformation campaign.
4. Everything that came after — the wild stories about the underground alien base beneath Mount Archuleta, the story of the underground battle between humans and aliens, the alleged abduction of Myrna Hansen, the tales of human body parts being stored in vats of liquid, the secret treaties between the U.S. government and alien races, and so on — was part of the disinformation campaign. It was all designed to confuse Bennewitz, ruin his credibility, and eventually shut him down.

This is what really happened in the Bennewitz case. He was not manipulated because he had accidentally stumbled upon secret military projects and needed to be distracted with UFO stories; he was targeted because he had filmed and photographed real UFOs over the Manzano Weapons Storage Area, a highly sensitive nuclear facility. The goal was not simply to confuse him, but to feed him outlandish falsehoods that he would repeat widely, making him appear increasingly paranoid and mentally unstable. That way, not only would the disinformation spread, but his legitimate UFO evidence would be completely discredited by association. Once he began talking about underground alien bases and vats of human body parts, no one would take his original photos and videos seriously anymore. I suggest you read "X Descending" by Christian Lambright to better understand what really happened.

Scotland said...

Spartacus

PS: Original comment was too long, so I broke it up into two parts
Part1

While the Paul Bennewitz case is complex and layered, the claim that he was targeted by the U.S. Air Force because he had captured “real UFOs” (i.e., extraterrestrial craft) over the Manzano Weapons Storage Area remains speculative and unsupported by verifiable evidence. Instead, the disinformation campaign he endured is more credibly understood within the context of Cold War-era secrecy surrounding sensitive military programs and yes, much of this interpretation initially comes from figures like Richard Doty, but not only from him.


1. Discrediting Doty Doesn’t Invalidate the Broader Context

It’s fair to point out that Richard Doty is a controversial figure, and his testimony alone is not reliable. However, the larger picture of military disinformation campaigns using the UFO narrative as a cover is supported by more than just Doty’s account:
1. Declassified documents from Project Blue Book, the CIA, and NSA confirm long-standing patterns of using UFO sightings to obscure secret technology testing.
2. Cold War aircraft like the U-2 and A-12 OXCART were frequently mistaken for UFOs, and this confusion was knowingly left uncorrected by U.S. intelligence services for operational reasons. (And yes, stuff like this doesn’t explain all UFO sightings.)
3. Other intelligence officers and researchers (not just Greg Bishop or Mark Pilkington) have corroborated the use of UFO stories to manage leaks or public sightings of classified projects.
4. Discounting Richard Doty‘s testimony, other researchers have investigated and have found out that Richard Doty along with the Air Force did indeed deceive him, these researchers included: Greg Bishop, Mark Pilkington, Martin Cannon, James Carrion and Emily Louise.

Even if Doty exaggerated or distorted the Bennewitz story (which would not be a surprise nor wrong), the broader intelligence tactic, hiding in plain sight behind the UFO mythos, is well-documented from researchers.


2. Bennewitz’s Evidence Was Never Independently Verified

Supporters of the “Bennewitz saw real UFOs” theory often cite his photographs, films, and intercepted transmissions. Yet none of this material has ever undergone credible, independent analysis that confirmed the presence of alien craft. What Bennewitz interpreted as extraterrestrial could plausibly be:
1. High-altitude test aircraft or drones.
2. Atmospheric or optical anomalies.
3. Electromagnetic interference from classified equipment.

Believing one has intercepted alien transmissions doesn’t make it true, especially when you’re dealing with someone who was actively being fed false information and manipulated by trained psychological operatives.

Scotland said...

Part2
3. Psychological Destabilization Does Not Prove Alien Truth

The claim that the Air Force ruined Bennewitz’s credibility because he had filmed real UFOs presumes the conclusion: that the UFOs were extraterrestrial and not something else.

But consider the simpler, more historically grounded explanation: Bennewitz observed something strange (possibly experimental military tech). He went public and attracted attention. The Air Force sought to manage the situation not because he uncovered aliens, but because he was close to exposing a sensitive defense program. Disinformation was used not to bury aliens, but to bury his credibility and thereby protect classified projects.

The idea that his wildest beliefs were fed to him intentionally to discredit his earlier footage supports the conclusion that his early footage was of sensitive military activity not extraterrestrial craft. Why would aliens visiting a nuclear site prompt a psychological operation, instead of full government disclosure?


4. The UFO Narrative is the Smokescreen. Not the Core

The very pattern described by Bennewitz’s defenders an initial sighting followed by a flood of bizarre claims is how a successful disinformation campaign works. The goal is not to cover up aliens, but to bury reality under a mountain of absurdity and BS so that nothing can be taken seriously. This doesn’t lend credibility to the alien hypothesis, it demonstrates the utility of the UFO mythos in military counterintelligence.


5. Christian Lambright’s Book Is Not a Primary Source

While “X Descending” offers an alternate perspective, it is still an interpretation built atop a mix of anecdotal testimony, unverified claims, and speculative logic. It is not direct evidence that what Bennewitz filmed were extraterrestrial spacecraft, and it does not overturn the better-supported theory that his experience reflects a classic Cold War-era psychological and counterintelligence maneuver.

It is more plausible, given the context of the Cold War, the secrecy surrounding defense installations like Kirtland AFB, and the historical precedent of using UFO stories to obscure sensitive technology, that Bennewitz was manipulated because he stumbled onto a classified military operation not because he had captured footage of alien craft. The pattern of exaggerating his beliefs and flooding him with false narratives matches known psychological operations and reflects the broader tactic of using the UFO phenomenon as a strategic smokescreen not evidence of an extraterrestrial cover-up.

Bob Koford said...

source: CIA's Role in the Study of UFOs, 1947-90 by Gerald K. Haines

"...The first report of a "flying saucer" over the United States came on June 24th 1947, when Kenneth Arnold, a private pilot and reputable businessman, while looking for a downed plane sighted nine disk-shaped objects near Mt. Rainier, Washington..."

This is the source where the "UFOs were really U2s" information comes from.

Notice...if you will...Mr. Haines was led to believe it all began with Kenneth Arnold. Why would he have been under the impression that it all started on June 24th 1947? Who briefed him?

If he had been told the whole truth, he would have known that Army Intelligence Division, under the guidance of the Office of the Assistant Chief of Staff/Intelligence, and the representative for the Air Staff, Lt. Colonel George Garrett, were already investigating the "Flying Discs" and "Supersonic Platters" months before June, 1947. It was their report that help lead the Propeller Division at Wright to co-author the so-called "Twining Memo".

CommanderCronus said...

If the DoD actually did pass around bogus pictures of a flying saucer, then show us the pics. We want to know when they were made, how they were made, and why they were made. Otherwise, it's just a "trust me bro" kind of story.

Spartacus01 said...

Asking ChatGPT to come up with a response is not going to help much here, especially since the points it raised are actually quite weak.

1. No one ever claimed that the “alien transmissions” intercepted by Bennewitz were proof that he was tracking extraterrestrial spacecraft. I specifically stated that those transmissions were part of the disinformation campaign and that they were deliberately created and sent to him by the Air Force. Again, read "X Descending" by Christian Lambrecht.
2. The photographs taken by Bennewitz are publicly available and included in "X Descending." You can easily look them up. What he captured were disc-shaped objects flying over the Manzano Weapon Storage Area. In the late 1970s, disc-shaped drones simply did not exist, nd even if they had, it is extremely unlikely they would have been tested directly over a sensitive military site like Kirtland. There is absolutely no evidence to support that claim.
3. Greg Bishop and Mark Pilkington are the only ones who have promoted the idea that Bennewitz was fed UFO stories as a distraction because he had accidentally intercepted classified military programs. That idea comes directly from Richard Doty, whom they interviewed. Martin Cannon never made any such claim. He wrote only one book focused on abductions where he puts forward a theory I actually agree with, but he never addressed the Bennewitz case.
4. The idea that the Air Force used UFO mythology to cover up sightings of U-2 aircraft is not supported by any solid evidence. In fact, there is a fair amount of documentation suggesting that this narrative is heavily exaggerated.
Check this Reddit post for more information:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOB/comments/1brrnv4/metabunk_looks_at_the_claim_half_of_ufos_in_the/?share_id=p8UXqY68aprL4-c5nH0Qu&utm_content=2&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1
And this one for even more context:
https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/zzzdjl/the_idea_that_the_government_pushes_the_concept/?share_id=Nhm79JXRuTg3maI0Fxi0J&utm_content=2&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1

Scotland said...

I agree, the transmissions were part of deception. But not because they wanted to distract him from real alien signals (as some people claim in the UFO field), but because he probably was picking up signals coming from the base itself that absolutely nothing to do with aliens. This (in my opinion) strengthens the case that Bennewitz was being manipulated precisely because his initial discoveries were inconvenient to classified U.S. military operations, not because they were evidence of real alien activity. If the signals were deliberately crafted by intelligence personnel, they suggest a classic deception operation, not an attempt to suppress alien evidence. The question is what did Bennewitz actually observing? The most plausible explanation is that he stumbled upon classified human technology or surveillance activities, rather than alien craft.

As for Bennewitz’s photos, it shows vague, disc like shapes features, but this doesn’t confirm alien origin or rule out human made craft. Saying “disc-shaped drones did not exist” may reflect what’s publicly acknowledged, but lack of public documentation doesn’t equate to non existence or that its aliens. Additionally, one reasons why the objects looked to be disc shaped is not because it is but because there’s a light that’s blinding the camera to make it look like it’s a disc when really it isn’t. As for testing over the Manzano Weapons Storage Area, numerous sensitive programs have been conducted over if not near high security zones precisely because these locations are already heavily controlled and monitored. Perfect place to test something.

Greg Bishop and Mark Pilkington may be the most vocal about Bennewitz specifically draw their knowledge of it from Doty, but they’re not the only researchers to identify a pattern of intelligence agencies manipulating the UFO mythos and not only ones that Bennewitz was fooled. The argument does not stand or fall on Doty alone, nor is it limited to two authors. It’s supported by patterns across decades of defense secrecy and other psychological operations.

There is declassified evidence that the U.S. government allowed (and at times encouraged) UFO reports to flourish as a side effect of secret aircraft tests. CIA document from 1992, titled The CIA and the U-2 Program, 1954–1974, states: “High-altitude testing of the U-2 soon led to an unexpected side effect a tremendous increase in reports of unidentified flying objects (UFOs). In the mid-1950s, most commercial airliners flew at altitudes between 10,000 and 20,000 feet, and military aircraft such as B-47s and B-57s operated at altitudes up to 40,000 feet. Consequently, once U-2s started flying at altitudes above 60,000 feet, air-traffic controllers began receiving increasing numbers of UFO reports. The Air Force, which was responsible for investigating such reports, tried to explain them away by linking them to natural phenomena.”
Here is the link to the document
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/DOC_0001260463.pdf

While it’s true that not all U-2 sightings were written off as UFOs, the idea that UFO lore became a useful side effect or deliberate smokescreen is in my opinion supported by historical records and other events that have occurred in the UFO field. Citing a Reddit post or two, unless it’s referencing primary sources, doesn’t hold much weight. The CIA itself has published material affirming this connection.

Last but not least, even if you wanted to dismiss the U-2 spy Plains and write it off, the US government has plenty of classified assets that it has in its inventory that I am sure have made tons of UFO sightings, and writing it off in my opinion is shortsighted.

Scotland said...

Part 2

As for X Descending I did read the book, although I read the book back in 2015 so my memory is not as good, I do remember I was not convinced with the “evidence”, the author provided. As I said the book offers an alternate perspective but is still a mix of anecdotal testimony, unverified claims, and speculative thinking.

Last but not least when I cited or mentioned Martin Cannon I should’ve clarified more. Martin Cannon did not discuss Bennewitz directly, (although he has commented on it and believes that he was fooled) His book “The Controllers” focuses on mind control and abductions and that some alien abduction narratives may be artificially induced by military or intelligence agencies. While unrelated to Bennewitz, Cannon’s supports the idea that UFO related experiences can be manipulated or manufactured by humans.

map any slide said...

Wow! Looks like the two of you have an argument going on here as if this blog was a message board. Honestly, I do not know as much about that incident as the two of you, but from what little I can say I actually know, I am inclined to agree with Spartacus over Scotland. The lesson to learn here is to not trust Richard, the source of most of ufology's false lore since 1979. Sadly, Richard's disinformation had the makings of entertaining science fiction. Wonder what real science fiction authors including Kevin think of Richard's fanciful tales. The Travel Channel included Richard on some episodes of a TV series in 2024. Somehow this connects with more recent revelations. Here are some URLs.

https://hybridsrising.com/Articles/SERPO-The-Gift-That-Keeps-on-Giving.html

https://badufos.blogspot.com/2019/03/aawsap-meets-serpo-hoax.html

https://www.reddit.com/r/ufo/comments/exbtoc/the_ttsa_and_project_serpo_connection/

https://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/deep-prasad-probes-magnesium-metamaterials-in-project-serpo-and-to-the-stars

Did Jason watch Star Wars? The film franchise showed Tunisian style adobe houses on a desert world in a binary star system. The inspiration is obvious.

I have viewed some of those pictures of unidentified things photographed over the weapons storage area. They appeared genuine, it looked like some kind of colorful glowing plasma surrounded the hulls of those disks.

Nowadays, Phil Schneider is a name more commonly associated with battles in underground bases beneath mesas. Did somebody else tell a similar story of a battle at Site Four in Nevada? The exchange program hoax story included a similar incident in Nevada.

The false story of secret treaties is sometimes called Project Sigma. Wonder if it is a sequel to Project Beta.

Spy planes are basically the same shape as airplanes that fly at lower altitudes, not particularly otherworldly looking. Does anybody else agree?

That is all for today. Goodbye for now!