So
now we’re told that the Roswell Slides might not be linked to Roswell and that
the name, Roswell Slides was invented by the debunkers and is not a term used
by anyone on the inside. For the latest interviews with Don Schmitt and Tom
Carey, see The Conspiracy Show hosted
by Richard Syrett which can be found here:
The segment with Carey and Schmitt
starts at the 1:04:20 mark of the show and they are on for about thirty
minutes. You’ll just have to fast forward through the first hour to get to the
Carey and Schmitt interview.
Here’s what we learn by listening to
this. According to Tom Carey, the couple who took the slides was well connected
to the Eisenhowers. The wife was a “high-powered lawyer in Midland, Texas and
the husband was an oil field geologist.” Part of his territory was New Mexico.
Please note that Carey is suggesting that the Rays, whose name he does not use,
were the ones who took the photographs though all that can be said is that they
may have owned the slides at one time decades ago. The provenance of the slides
is still very shaky.
Carey then went on to explain how the
slides were originally discovered. He said:
Current owner came into possession of
the slides around 1990. The husband [Bernerd Ray] died in 1982 and the lawyer
wife [Hilda Ray] died in 1988 [though not mentioned, it seems that they had
divorced at some point]. During a clean out of their house, in their garage,
one of the people who was part of the cleanup crew discovered this huge box of
color slides, Kodachrome slides, and she said, “Oh, these look interesting,” so
she kept them. She took them home instead of taking them to the dumpster. She
took them for herself because nobody wanted them… so she kept them and didn’t
look at them for a number of years [which seems strange after she had
determined they were interesting, but never mind]. She finally looked at them
and these two slides… were separate from all the others. There were over 400
slides in total. But there were these two that were taped in an envelope to the
underside of the lid to the box. So she looked at those and she got spooked…
She shipped the whole box to her relative who has them now. He was no UFO guy
but he looked at these two slides and he says, “I don’t know what this is…” he
had heard about Roswell… So he looked at them and I better contact somebody who
knows something about this.
Of course, in his position, my first
thought would have been to search for someone who knew about the Roswell UFO case.
Carey said that the man had gone to the Internet (which is something I bet we
all do now a days) and looked for something about Roswell. Carey’s name came up
and the man set an email.
During the interview, Schmitt suggested
that the “debunkers” had labeled them the Roswell Slides and they had not made
that connection meaning that the slides were connected to Roswell. Syrett, in
recapping some of this said that Carey and Schmitt weren’t linking these images
to Roswell but there was a possibility that there was a connection (or in the
words of nearly everyone else, let’s beat around the bush some more).
All though the interview, however,
Carey talked as if it was an already established fact that the slides were from
the Roswell case. Continuing in that vein, Schmitt said, “The dating of the
slides is from 1947 to 1949. As we will be demonstrating at the event in May,
there were specific areas that the photographers visited… both worked in west
Texas and New Mexico… the circle of friends were closely linked to Eisenhower.”
Or, in other words, this is connected to Roswell even though these people lived
in Midland, Texas and had pictures of Eisenhower in his uniform.
The link to Eisenhower seems to be
based on the fact that some of the slides in the box of 400 were of Eisenhower,
which doesn’t link them to him personally other than they were in the same
place at the same time… Just as I was in the same place as David Letterman and
I even have a picture of me standing next to him, but we are not closely
linked.
During the interview, Carey was asked about
what linked the eyewitness testimony to other alien bodies. He said:
[The] woman standing by a glass slab…
the body lying on it appears to be 3½ to 4 feet tall… large inverted pear-shaped
head but there is one item on it, on top of the head that was described by one
of the first-hand witnesses, one of the first ones to the crash site… the local
fireman named Dan Dwyer who described when he got home that night and he told
his family about it… they asked him, “What did it look like?” Instead of giving
a detailed description he just said, “Child of the Earth.” [Which is an insect
also known as the Jerusalem cricket]… It’s something on the head, I don’t want
to give anything away here… there is something on the top of the head that one
of the eyewitnesses described and it’s on this particular creature on the
slide… That’s why Dan Dwyer called it the Child of the Earth.
But what Carey doesn’t say here, and
which is extremely important is that Dwyer was never interviewed by any of the
UFO researchers and calling him a first-hand witness without explaining the
circumstances is misleading. Dwyer died before the interest in Roswell was
renewed. Contrary to the impression that this is first-hand testimony, it was
relayed by Frankie Rowe, Dwyer’s daughter. While I believe that Rowe is telling
us what she believes to be the absolute truth, it is second hand from her so
anything deduced from the testimony is shaky at best.
Apropos of nothing, Carey did mention
that this ranked as a “smoking gun,” slightly better than the “smoking gun” of
the Ramey memo. Both, according to Carey, are extremely important bits of
evidence and, of course, the Ramey memo is directly related to Roswell.
What have we learned here?
Well, the Roswell Slides don’t
necessarily show a creature from the Roswell crash, at least according to
Schmitt. But then both he and Carey talk as if it was already proven that the
creature, whatever it was, is from the Roswell crash.
The
slides were apparently in a vacant house for two years before they were found,
and then the woman who found them and took them, didn’t look at them for a
number of years. She was so freaked out by them that she sent all the slides to
her brother…I mean a relative, who apparently did nothing with them for years.
Then about three years ago this fellow, who lives in Chicago, looked at them
and thought he had better find someone who knew something about Roswell. He
emailed Carey.
We
also learned that when they attempted to interest American scientists in the
slides, no one would come forward. The news media was equally unimpressed, but
foreign scientists have examined the slides and made comment about them. Two of
them are Canadian anthropologists who were not named but whose analysis will be
part of the Mexico City show. They will be named there. All this data and much
more will be presented in Mexico City.
And,
although they suggest that the slides aren’t linked to Roswell, when they begin
to talk about them, it is clear that is exactly what they think. And if they
don’t, then why bring poor old PFC Benavides into it so that he can say that
the creature in the photograph looks like the bodies he saw in Roswell? While
they might not like the name the Roswell Slides and don’t refer to them that
way, it is what they believe. All we can hope for is that they’ll have some
better evidence about the slides than they have mentioned in the various
interviews so far. The story of how the slides ended up in the hands of UFO
researchers doesn’t allow for evidence of who took the pictures in the first
place or for an unbroken chain of custody. There are still too many loose ends.
I do hope they can do better in Mexico City.
